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    • As for Dr. Gail Poyner, I was convinced she did my initial C&P exam, but after receiving my C-File, I learned it was from a Dr. Rosco. I'm not sure if I saw her during another visit or if they just look alike. Sorry for that bit of erroneous information.
    • Berta,  Thank you so much for your reply. Yes, I have filed a NOD for the latest PTSD rating and effective date and for my TBI rating decrease. Here is my 2009 decision letter.   2009 - Decision1.pdf
    • Yes , this article quotes her as saying she was fired: http://www.scpr.org/blogs/health/2014/08/04/17100/are-some-veterans-exaggerating-or-lying-about-thei/ I guess she was a QTC doctor? You have the CAB and even if it was issued after VA knew you had it, this is a disgrace. How many other combat vets ( men and women) did she screw for  PTSD claims? if we can see their words in the PTSD denial, we can help more. Personally I think any C & P done by someone who has been "fired" should be a good cause for a better EED. But I saw her name in many articles and cannot determine if QTC or the VA itself fired her and if the firing was specifically for misinterpreting PTSD claims. You certainly should try for a better EED. The diagnosis was obviously wrong from her, but the diagnostic code might have been right.      
    • I just found one of your past posts and regret I never read it that time: Holy S---! in part:
      "Hi Everyone, I am a first time poster. I have been reading this site for a few weeks now and have found it very helpful. This is my story. I served 9 years in the Army National Guard. I deployed to Iraq in March 2003 until March 2004 as a truck driver and witnessed many things. I received the Combat Action Badge (a year or two later when it was created). I was on several convoy's that were attacked with IED's and small arms, including one IED that hit my truck directly. I was not wounded, but was very dazed afterward. It took me several years to come to terms with the fact that I was suffering from PTSD. I was also afraid to seek help due the stigma that I felt it would have created in the Military at the time. In 2008 I ETS'd from the Guard. In 2009, My husband ( a combat vet as well) finally convinced me to seek help from the VA. I went to all my initial appointments, but was very disappointed with the level of care I received. Especially in instances where I would have to drive 3 hours to Oklahoma City, just to be told that one or more of my appointments would have to be re-scheduled. I was told that I have PTSD and TBI in some of the appointments. Later that year, I filed a claim for PTSD, TBI, and gall bladder residuals. (I had to be flown to Germany July 4th 2003 to have my gallbladder removed, then returned to Iraq. ) In my 2009 claim, I was denied PTSD, received 10% TBI, and 0% gallbladder residuals. I did file a NOD for the PTSD, but after that I did not follow thru on anything else concerning the VA. The C&P examiner for PTSD acted like it was impossible for me to have been in combat because I was a woman, and blamed everything on my hormones. I was done with the VA after that. Fast forward to 2013. I was still dealing with PTSD. After years of pleading with me, my husband finally dragged me back to the VA. Since we live on the Oklahoma / Texas line, My husband enrolled me in the North TX VA system. I started receiving treatment there and I was very impressed. I have even started to feel like I am making some improvement. In March 2015, I filed a Re-open PTSD claim and TBI increase. My ebenefits has been bouncing back and forth from "prep for notification" to "prep for final approval" to "gathering evidence" and up and down for three weeks now. It sits at "prep for notification" today. I called the VFW VSO a few days ago and they said that they can see where I have been awarded 50% for PTSD effective March 2015 but my TBI was decreased to 0%. I can see my C&P exam notes in blue button, and the PTSD examiner states that it is the same symptoms that I presented with in 2009. I am very elated that I am receiving 50%. While surfing the web doing some research on VA claims in the last few days, I discovered an article about the OKC C&P mental health examiner (Dr. Gail Poyner) being dismissed in 2010 for not following guidelines and performing test for malingering and pretty much denying most PTSD claims. After more research I discovered that it was the same examiner that I had. She has also written an article stating this out right. While I'm sure that malingering does happen, I wonder if she just assumes that everyone is faking. Although it took me a long time to come forward for help, my symptoms are real and her out right dismissal just made me feel like no one could help me and I just had to suck it up and drive on at the expense of my mind and my family. Does any one feel that I might have a case to appeal the effective date, or should I just leave well enough alone? All advice is appreciated." I definitely feel there is a CUE here and the C & P would have been different (in my opinion, if the new July 2010 regulations for PTSD had been applied-if not by the C & P examiner,but  by the RO when they rendered the decision. Are you able to scan and attach here the 2009 decision, as to their Reason and Bases for the PTSD denial? And what Evidence they used? (Cover C file # name, etc prior to scanning)                           http://www.va.gov/vetapp16/Files3/1621642.txt      
    • robert.a.mcdonald@va.gov good luck with your claim he will get a response from somebody  

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What To Expect. Upcoming C&p Exam For Ptsd

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Hi all,

I spent today trying to search as to what to expect for my upcoming C&P exam for PTSD. Actually a bit nervous about it. I knot in my stomach even. Previously I thought I had read some notes on what to expect, but alas I cannot find them now.

Anyone have any insight as to what to expect?

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most ptsd c&p's take about a couple of hours. it really depends on the doc. be sure to try to focus on how your ptsd symptoms are negatively affecting your day-to-day life. like others will say, don't dress up. dress like you normally do. your not there to impress anyone. be sure to answer all questions and try not to say "i don't know" as that leaves an opening for interpretation by the examiner and then by the VA.

if you can, take someone with you to be in the exam.....if the doc says no, try to insist on it (like a spouse or other family member) as they might be able to fill in some blanks.

relax....you'll be fine.

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Purple is absolutely right about taking someone with you. I took my wife for the first part where he went thru what is going on with my wife and family and she came up with many things that I would not have remembered or said. I asked her to leave when he wanted details about what happened in service. The end result was I got 50% effective 7/07 which was related all the way back to Vietnam. I doubt if I would not have got anything if it wasn't for her telling him all the symptoms I have now and what I've had over the years...

Just be honest and make sure you respond based on your worst days... not when things are going OK... and let him know that.

Good Luck


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Don't let the C&P doctor lead you back to your childhood or teen years. Your position should be that I was fine before the events that caused my PTSD. You had a normal and happy life before the military, and now as a result of events in the military you have PTSD. Everything about your childhood, school, job, marriage was ok before the military. After the events it turned to shit.

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Thanks all for the help. Lots of good ideas. Only wish I had someone to take with me. Alas I do not.

Is there any tests given? I am worried about taking tests.

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