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    • Need some advice
      I'd likely see about voiding the NG enlistment. Can't have both. I'd think that you would not be deployable with the problems you mentioned.
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    • Need some advice
      Hello to my fellow Brothers and Sisters this is my first post, I've been a long time lurker. I am a recently discharged OEF Vet. I joined the National Guard prior to my ETS. I really only joined for the healthcare to help out my family members. I knew my mind and body was breaking down too much to carry on doing active duty Infantry and I wasn't allowed to re-class. The Guard offered me one so I decided to re-class in the Guard to a HR MOS. I didn't receive a bonus and haven't gone to my AIT for the re-class yet. I've only participated in one Drill weekend. I recently received my award letter for 100% SC P&T. I don't know what to do now about staying in the Guard? Will I be penalized by the VA? Will it change my rating? Will the Guard just MEB me? Any advice is appreciated.
    • Proof C&P Exams are often frauds
      We'll, I have been lucky so far, but we will see.  I have a C&P coming up for my secondary for heart disease from HBP.  I am scheduled for a echocardiogram. Just went throught all the tests with my cardialogist., to enclude an echocardiogram, and those records went in with my claim. I will compare the two. Maybe my C&P doc (or RN) will be a podiatrist.  You never know.. Hamslice      
    • Should I file a claim now or wait?
      Thanks everybody, I think I will go ahead and push that go button!  The main reason is I want to establish the effective date soon as possible. 
    • Proof C&P Exams are often frauds
      Well, yes, remember who pays for your C and P exam.  Still, regulations provide that if you have a balance where 2 docs differ on opinion, the VA CAN choose one over the other, but has to give a reasons and bases as to why.   For example, one doctor can do a more thorough exam.  Or, one doctor can be preferred if he states he read your records, while another doc does not say this.   If you have been denied, the VA is required to give you the benefit of the doubt if the claim is "in equipose", that is, there is a balance between positive and negative evidence.   When you appeal, you can certainly argue that your private doc did a more thorough exam.   HOwever, your private doc may/may not made an applicable nexus statement.  YOu need to check your records to see if the nexus is there.  
    • Reopened Claim & sent my Medical Records as evidence.
      No real update other than they've been treating my back/migraines with medication. They're setting up an eye exam to see if that has anything to do with the migraines. The doctor they sent me to examined me and was amazed at how bad my physical condition was and the VA not taking any responsibility by not service connecting any of my conditions. (They told me that on an MRI I had in 2000 that I had herniated/bulged discs) I'm still waiting on some kind of update, but it's still in 'gathering evidence' stage. They have my service records now as well as chiropractic records and the records from this recent trip to the doctor. Wondering if I'll get another C&P exam scheduled as I can't find anything in my eBenefits records history about the first one I had and the medical building I had it done at has been out of business for several years. They did send an email saying they should have a decision on my claim by April 2017??? Wow...That's weird they would even set that deadline so far out...so I really don't know what to do but wait...
    • DRO hearing
      Berta please read and tell me what you think. John D is on this for me as I type this.   "With respect to the issues pending before the VA which are, service connected bowel, bladder and PT (Permanent and Total) status, please consider;   1st with respect to the issue of PT. I have provided for the VA, very probative evidence not only from Dr. Craig Bash, but also the SSA that clearly shows that I should be PT. VA has yet to consider this evidence and I wish to go on record, that if the VA would rate me PT, I would drop ALL pending issues for service connected disability. This seems the easiest way for everyone and will save myself and the VA time and effort.   2nd, if the VA denies PT or refuses to allow issue 1 noted above to take place, then consider the following; I understand through my POA, that the DRO is mandating a C&P exam for the bowel/bladder. Apparently to reconcile Dr. Bash's IMO and other medical evidence in my favor, against a refuting record from 2012-2013. This constitutes a CUE in my opinion as the VA is obligated to not only apply the doctrine of reasonable doubt under CFR 3.102, but also apply VA's CFR mandate of relative equipoise in my favor. The evidence of record is clearly in my favor and Dr. Bash's opinion is at least as probative if not more than any other refuting opinion. I feel as if the VA is "doctor shopping" to secure a opinion against me, when the evidence is already clearly in my favor.    In short, I will not be attending any additional CP exam for bowel/bladder and I encourage the VA to rate me PT of which I will drop all remaining claims. By doing this, we can save everyone the time and effort to further develop and adjudicate pending issues. This would also allow the VA to more timely assist other veterans by clearing my issues off of the board."
    • Proof C&P Exams are often frauds
      Wow, I go to my C&P Thursday.. Sorry to hear that man.
    • Increase Upgrade rather then DRO or Re open
      A claim for increased disability in a compensation claim that was previously denied because all service-connected (SC) disabilities were considered noncompensable is a “claim for increase.”   I received on Dec 30 2015 eed of 8/2015  I received a non  compensable rating of migraines the CNP and the DBQ  stated I was prostrate weekly so in 3/20/2016 I filed for an upgrade within the year I also submitted new evidence a DBQ by a VA doctor in my favor as well as pointed at the past evidence in the DBQ done during the CNP of the orig claim,    now I was told I Cant file for an upgrade unless a year has passed is that true even though I have new evidence? Also will the VA see that if I cant and change it to an UPgrade ?

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Just went in the hospital and they found out that I have coronary artery disease also known as bradycardia ( slow heart rate) Should I file a claim for AO ?

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sorry I meant heart disease,not artery disease.

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3.309(e). Presumptive ao for heart:

Ischemic heart disease (including, but not limited to, acute, subacute, and old myocardial infarction; atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease including coronary artery disease (including coronary spasm) and coronary bypass surgery; and stable, unstable and Prinzmetal’s angina)

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Is Ischemic heart disease the same as Bradycardia

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CAD (coronary artery disease), IHD, and bradycardia can be related. CAD can cause IHD. High blood pressure can be related to both IHD and CAD.

Actually, cause and effect of these are intertwined. Bradycardia can be the result of a silent heart attack, or when it is very mild, normal under certain conditions. Since my at rest pulse rate is about 57, I technically have Bradycardia. It's really a minor issue, in comparison to other's, such as CAD.

CAD can be the direct cause of IHD. The big question is what is your left ventricle efficiency, since you do have evidence of damage to your heart.

An LVEF of less than 30% can result in a 100% schedular rating. I assume you fall under the A/O exposure rules.

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Hello Buzz,

First ,,, remember that for ANY terminology of CAD, IHD, or Atherosclerosis....They are one and the same. I have been diagnosed with each one but the VA and medical terminology will all come up the same. So if you have one .....sorry you got them all.

However you will try to use the IHD as it is presumptive to all AO veterans who have boots on the ground Vietnam. This does not apply to me because of my station and I am under Direct exposure of AO where it was widely used. Just as James Cripps one of our members in Fort Gordon Georgia won his AO award under direct exposure. And Kurt Priessman another one of our members who won his AO in Thailand , it is an example of how widespread the AO problem is . Please check our AO archives and read my post on Agent Orange Bases and see just how many there are and those not even listed by DOD list.

As Chuck pointed out ...your LVEF or infarction rate will need to be addressed to point you to the correct rating schedular percentage by VA. It will help if your Cardiologist or even your PCP Doctor can list you as IHD but you already have one diagnosis so see what that doctor will say. IMOs ,,,,will trigger your Benefit of a Doubt rule and the way to have IMOs written is on our site also. Above all , if you are just starting, be prepared for a long wait and battle ....but the main issue will and still is ............NEVER GIVE UP. ....God Bless, C.C.

Edited by Capt.Contaminate

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Just a little info to help you out, also check your Mets level!

(The regulation says 3 METs or less is 100%, more than 3 METs up to 5 METs is 60%, more than 5 METs up to 7 METs is 30%, etc.)

METS are (metabolic equivalent).

NJ

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Just a little info to help you out, also check your Mets level!

(The regulation says 3 METs or less is 100%, more than 3 METs up to 5 METs is 60%, more than 5 METs up to 7 METs is 30%, etc.)

METS are (metabolic equivalent).

NJ

METS level assignments can be very subjective, and may not agree with medical evidence. (especially when made at a VA C&P exam)

Private physicians are often uncomfortable with METS and another method used by many states in assigning handicap levels.

Actual medical test results are usually better. An example might be measurements of blood pressures, volumes etc. taken via a heart cath sensor.

Heart damage(IHD,etc) can change high blood pressure to a more normal pressure. One indicator of this possibility is a "slow" heartbeat.

The measured "pressure waves" inside the heart are a diagnostic tool that can be used to fairly accurately estimate total heart damage.

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Captain;

I'm under the impression that once you're granted exposure to AO if you have any of the diseases on the AO list you can be granted service connection for them. Nehmer only applies to the Vietnam vet with boots on the ground but the Dec 2011 C&P bulletin on the THailand Vets states that if a Thailand vet has been denied and he reopens his claim because he worked on or near the perimeter his eed will be the date of his original claim. The example given was that if the vet filled for DMII in 2006 and was denied if he reopens his claim in 2001 his effective date will be the date the VA received his denied claim in 2006. A vet in Michigan was recently granted service connection for DMII and he worked in the Autodin building on Camp Friendship, the Autodin building was about a hundred feet from the perimeter fence.

Rick

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METS level assignments can be very subjective, and may not agree with medical evidence. (especially when made at a VA C&P exam)

Private physicians are often uncomfortable with METS and another method used by many states in assigning handicap levels.

Actual medical test results are usually better. An example might be measurements of blood pressures, volumes etc. taken via a heart cath sensor.

Heart damage(IHD,etc) can change high blood pressure to a more normal pressure. One indicator of this possibility is a "slow" heartbeat.

The measured "pressure waves" inside the heart are a diagnostic tool that can be used to fairly accurately estimate total heart damage.

Chuck75,

I added that info based on my C&P exam the doc wrote 1-3 Mets with Chronic Angina and they awarded me 100% P&T with no further exams and yes it was service connected (CAD), I was rated 60% when first awarded and my Mets were 3-5, Just going by my Experience.

NJ

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If you can get the VA to do a CT scan of your legs or even a leg and it shows calcification that can lead to a heart disease DX. If you are a RVN vet that can lead to a SC rating. I know because I did it.

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Hello All,

John that is a very good point to bring up. Did you have any of the diseases also listed such as CAD, Athero, or IHD? It sounds like you did a backdoor approach to it and it worked for the rating and grant.

Computer Tech, Yes your right but unfortunately proving up an AO exposure is difficult outside of Vietnam . Yes Thailand and now Georgia, and Korea are seeing more grants thanks to James Cripps and Kurt Priessmans work , you will have to prove it up first and still must file a DIRECT exposure claim. If you try to use presumptive outside of Vietnam, it will get axed everytime. There is only one case that I can find of AO exposure from Alaska and it is the Haynes Pipeline corridor claim from Fort Greely. The DOD list is not complete and only about half of the bases in the U.S. and the World, ended up on the list to even try a presumptive fight or a direct exposure fight. Once again go look at the Agent Orange Category here at Hadit and see the bases all over the United States that sent personnel to the Mandatory Training Seminars in 1973 at Colorado Springs , Colo. I also broke the list down to show just how wide spread AO was even in North America. This is why our archives are so Valueable to each Veteran. It is also important to know that you do not ,,,I repeat do not have to have Perhiperal Neuropathy as secondary to DM11 like the VA states in its Presumptive list and 38 CFRs, before it will grant PN due to AO. I also have posted here in the Archives of 2 separate claims which won PN , Agent Orange exposures without any DM11 links. I am a Veteran with severe PN and no DM11 and am fighting the VA on AO with PN, IHD , Dry eyes appeals which will win eventually at BVA or CAVA. If I can prove exposure ....IF. Proving exposure needs much medical expertise, opinions and solid evidence that AO was used where the Veteran was stationed. As well as how the Veteran was exposed. Even though the discontinuence of AO was in 1975, the research clearly shows that AO may be active and threaten human life for decades. See James Cripps Work also from Dr. Arnold Schectters research as well as the Agent Orange section to see the BVA cases that I posted also in the AO archives.

I would also point out that DIRECT exposure will take much more time , evidence , medical opinions and a very strong chain linking all to it. However it will be, in the end ,the only way some of us can prove up our claims outside of Vietnam or a couple of the other areas listed. Once an area gets a Claims Awarded under Direct exposure then it opens the door for other Veterans. It will NEVER happen at the RO level and will take BVA at the least and probably the CAVA to win it properly. This is why my claim is so important for the other AO Alaska Veterans. My claim must set precedence. There is no denial of AO in Alaska period and DOD and VA know this , however their clock is ticking against them and they know that also. There is no other site which has more evidence on Agent Orange in Alaska that here at Hadit and I am posting new evidence when I get it just as I have for the last 5 years. I also urge other veterans to help post any evidence from anywhere concerning AO so that all Veterans may shut the door on the AO lie that has killed over 240000 vets and 300 per day. This lie must be brought to the eyes of not just America but to the World.

The Acute and Subacute points on the VA regulations concerning presumptive DM11 and PN awards are not to be followed in the DIRECT exposure issue. Though the VA rubber stamps this denial every time because a Veteran does not end up within 1 year of showing signs of DM11 or PN or 2 years for the subacute, it can be beaten in court and has with the 2 cases I have listed from the BVA.

Chuck brings up a very important point that METS levels are so broad and are not as good to use as the Infarction Rate numbers. Whenever possible I would always try and use the medical records which show most of the time a true infarction rate.

Ok ,,,, I hope this helps....

I hope that most importantly every Veteran remembers to ..........NEVER GIVE UP. God Bless, C.C.

Edited by Capt.Contaminate

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Capt.

Yes, I say if you can't go in the front door try the window or backdoor to get SC. That is how I got HB and other stuff. Your doctor (PCP) can be your friend and if you know something about your regs and disease secondary problems such as all those to do with DMII I think you can go a long way. When the VA makes a condition presumptive they open the door for all secondary conditions and there are a ton of them for DMII.

John

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Yes, I say if you can't go in the front door try the window or backdoor to get SC. That is how I got HB and other stuff. Your doctor (PCP) can be your friend and if you know something about your regs and disease secondary problems such as all those to do with DMII I think you can go a long way. When the VA makes a condition presumptive they open the door for all secondary conditions and there are a ton of them for DMII.

John

Sort of on and off topic at the same time!

I received an envelope the other day from the NVLSP. It contained a copy of the Nehmer review decision. The decision was correct in the overall EDD date, and award for IHD, but obviously erred in some secondary decisions.

One was a later EDD assigned than the overall EDD, even though evidence showed treatment well before the overall EDD (set by claim date). Another decision used current law instead of the law that was in place on and well after the overall EDD. This resulted in 0% rating instead of 10% for the secondary.

When queried, the NVLSP stated that they did not have the time or manpower to deal with secondaries, and were just concentrating on IHD awards.

So, if you have secondary conditions related to IHD, don't depend on the NVLSP to help when/if the VA does not properly deal with them..

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Hello John and Chuck,

John your thoughts on this and what you did are very similiar to mine. I also had several Doctors including VA who did not know the regulations but understood the diseases. It did help the Doctors to know and they were more than helpful after I showed them the regulations and the proper way to address my issues. Secondary issues are always going to be an issue for any service connected Veteran. Most Veterans do not understand this and never press the issue. Thanks for your thoughts on this.

Chuck ,,, I could understand the NVLSP and their lack of manpower on the secondaries. It looks like the folks here at Hadit are going to have to fill in the gap .................................. like they usually do. Thank you Chuck .

NEVER GIVE UP. God Bless, C.C.

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diagnose with Coronary atherosclerosis of native coronary vessel

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Buzz

That condition of yours is presumptive on its own if you were "boots on the ground" RVN vet. How did you find out about it?

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John I WAS IN VIET NAM 68-69,HAD TEST IN THE HOSPITAL TO FIND OUT MY CONDITION

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