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"other than likely more"

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Carl the Engineer

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What the f**k does this mean?,

"Mild degenerative changes as described above other than likely more prominent facet arthropathy lower lumbar spine"

 That is the comment from my VA clinic NP in myHealthyvet from a lumbar spine xray taken earlier this year from my civilian doctor that she requested.  I was asking for and got from her a prescription for Naproxin so I would not have to pay out of pocket.

This is the comment she is reffering to ("described above") from my problem list in myHealthyvet.

"xray 7/11 mild thoracic DJD&DDD, mild lumbar DJD"

So, am I gettling better or worse?

"other than likely more", WTF??

My mom is in the nursing home, but was and English teacher and my daughter is an English teacher, maybe I will run it by them, ha, ha.

Hamslice

PS, I am at 20% lumbar for ROM.

 

 

 
 
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11 hours ago, Hamslice said:

What the f**k does this mean?,

"Mild degenerative changes as described above other than likely more prominent facet arthropathy lower lumbar spine"

 That is the comment from my VA clinic NP in myHealthyvet from a lumbar spine xray taken earlier this year from my civilian doctor that she requested.  I was asking for and got from her a prescription for Naproxin so I would not have to pay out of pocket.

This is the comment she is reffering to ("described above") from my problem list in myHealthyvet.

"xray 7/11 mild thoracic DJD&DDD, mild lumbar DJD"

So, am I gettling better or worse?

"other than likely more", WTF??

My mom is in the nursing home, but was and English teacher and my daughter is an English teacher, maybe I will run it by them, ha, ha.

Hamslice

PS, I am at 20% lumbar for ROM.

 

 

 

 

 

your xray shows mild degenerated joint and disk

disease of the thoracic & lumbar spine. Mild Arthritis with

pain and discomfort

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I would get a specialist to interpret the "doctor speak".

Good luck.

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They help keep the normal alignment of the spinal vertebrae and limit motion. The pain and discomfort that is caused by degeneration and arthritis of this part of the spine is called facet arthropathy, which simply means a disease or abnormality of the facet joints.

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It means the rater is partially screwed up.

Appropriate C&P report terminology is "more likely than not."  He or she knew there was something that needed to be typed in, to assist in professional WAFFLING, but didn't grab the terms as it should have been utilized. 
The deal is that you might have trouble getting two different spinal ratings. You might confer with a GOOD service officer about how to re-open the issue when you got the ROM 20%, and at that time the rest should have been at least been rated 0% so you'd get s/c designation for it, and call one or the other as "secondary to."  I know 0% sounds bad, but it has helped me, and ultimately I HAVE gotten better ratings. You just need to get it on the books NOW that it  is s/c.  Especially because it seems as though you are under 50% and not getting comprehensive health care yet.

I appreciate your recent service, and am glad you're involved in conversations like these.

 

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Thanks everybody,

I am currently 70%.

I beleive arthritis is 10% by the image itself and then your get more because of ROM.  I was rated 10% arthritis xray for my shoulder and then increased to 20% because of ROM.  So the SC for arthritis is hidden in there somewhere.

This wasnt a C&P, but just an annual checkup for blood and medicine, etc.  She, the NP, wanted to see my civilian doc xray of my lumbar and that was my original question.  Her saying "other than likely more", and what the heck that means.

I'm trying to parse the sentence between the two parts, i.e., "mild degenerative changes as described above" which would be "x-ray mild thoracic DJD and DDD, mild lumbar DJD" and "more prominemt facet arthropathy lower lumbar spine".

This is what I get; instead of my pain coming from my thoracic DJD, DDD and lumbar DJD, its more likely coming form my jacet arthropathy lower lumbar spine.

I'll make a big assumption in that it is all ROM unless the pain would require bedrest etc., and my only move would be asking for an increase and my ROM being rechecked?

I am 20% for lumbar (and thoracic) and 20% cervical, both ROM and SC'd because of arthritis.

Anyway, thanks,

Hamslice

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