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Example Of Va Using Childhood Evidence Against Mh Claims


I am only posting this information to show a clear cut example

of the how's and why's VBA can and will use information

concerning your childhood experiences, against a claim for

service connection of mental health disabilities.

I - in no way,am stating I agree or disagree with this process and/or the

outcome of this individual claim.

I post it only for example to help veterans understand another part

of what evidence,decision makers weigh during the claims process.



Service Connection

Service connection means that the facts establish that a

particular injury or disease resulting in disability was

incurred in the line of duty in the active military service

or, if pre-existing such service, was aggravated during

service. 38 U.S.C.A. § 1110; 38 C.F.R. § 3.303(a). This may

be shown by affirmative evidence showing inception or

aggravation during service or through statutory presumptions.

Id. When a disease is first diagnosed after service, service

connection can still be granted for that condition if the

evidence shows it was incurred in service. 38 C.F.R.

§ 3.303(d).

Service connection for PTSD requires medical evidence

diagnosing the condition in accordance with 38 C.F.R. §

4.125(a); a link, established by medical evidence, between

current symptoms and an in-service stressor; and credible

supporting evidence that the claimed in-service stressor

occurred. 38 C.F.R. § 3.304(f) and 38 C.F.R. § 4.125 (2006)

(requiring PTSD diagnoses to conform to the criteria in the


ed. 1994) (DSM-IV)).

The Veteran alleges he was raped by a male nurse while in the

military seeking treatment for an injured ankle. The Veteran

admits that he never formally reported the MST and, in fact,

had no memory of the incident until his memory was triggered

by a VA medical questionnaire he filled out sometime in 2004,

nearly three decades after service. Accordingly, there is no

objective verification of the assault.

The Board finds noteworthy that the Veteran testified before

the Board in July 2007 that the male nurse, Specialist P., is

currently a convicted sexual predator. No such documentation

is currently of record.

If a PTSD claim is based on Military Sexual Trauma (MST) or

personal assault in service, evidence from sources other than

the Veteran's records may corroborate the Veteran's account

of the stressor incident. Examples of such evidence include,

but are not limited to: records from law enforcement

authorities, rape crisis centers, mental health counseling

centers, hospitals or physicians; pregnancy tests or tests

for sexually transmitted diseases; and statements from family

members, roommates, fellow service members, or clergy. 38

C.F.R. § 3.304(f)(3).

Additionally, evidence of behavior changes following the

claimed assault is relevant evidence that may be found in the

mentioned sources. Examples of behavior changes that may

constitute credible evidence of a stressor include, but are

not limited to: a request for a transfer to another military

duty assignment; deterioration in work performance; substance

abuse; episodes of depression, panic attacks, or anxiety

without an identifiable cause; or unexplained economic or

social behavior changes. Id.

In this case, the Veteran alleges he was an exemplary soldier

prior to the incident, allegedly occurring in February 1978.

After the incident, the Veteran alleges his attitude turned

"sour" and he was ultimately dishonorably discharged a few

short months later.

The Veteran's personnel records confirm the Veteran was

discharged "under honorable conditions" for "failure to

maintain acceptable standards for retention." The Veteran

was originally enlisted to serve through 1980, but received

disciplinary action for going AWOL in May 1978 and was

discharged shortly thereafter for, among other reasons, a

poor attitude.

The notion that the Veteran's problems were limited in time

to after the February 1978 incident, however, is simply not

credible. That is, prior to entering the military, the

Veteran's personnel records note the Veteran had a troubled

childhood. He was charged with "purse snatching" at the

age of 15 and admitted to experimenting with marijuana and

alcohol. The Veteran, at the time of enlistment, was in a

foster home because of familial alcohol problems as well as

child abuse.

As will be explained more thoroughly below, the claim is

further complicated because for decades the Veteran alleged a

close family member sexually abused him as a child. He later

alleged he was mistaken and now has full memory of the 1978

military sexual abuse by the male nurse.

The first pertinent inquiry is whether psychiatric problems

were shown in service. The Board concludes they were not.

The Veteran's service treatment records indicate the Veteran

had psychiatric consultations in February 1977 and again in

April 1978, which were normal but noted a history of

psychiatric care predating the military.

The service treatment records also confirm on February 19, 1978,

Specialist P. called for an ambulance on behalf of the

Veteran for a possible fractured ankle. The records indicate

that prior to that time, Specialist P. had treated the

Veteran for other, unrelated conditions. The Veteran's May

1978 separation examination indicated no abnormalities. The

alleged MST is not confirmed by the service treatment

records. In short, the service treatment records are devoid

of any findings consistent with the alleged rape or any

psychiatric problems.

Even if a chronic condition was not shown during service,

service connection may be established under 38 C.F.R. §

3.303(b) by evidence of continuity of symptomatology or under

38 C.F.R. § 3.303(d) if the evidence shows a disease first

diagnosed after service was incurred in service. The

pertinent inquiry then is whether the Veteran has a current

diagnosis of PTSD attributed to a verified in-service

incident. The Board concludes, based on the evidence, he

does not.

After service, the medical records indicate extensive

treatment for various psychiatric conditions as early as the

1990s, over twenty years after service. At that time, the

Veteran was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, depression and

poly-substance abuse. The Veteran was also hospitalized

multiple times for various suicide attempts. In 2002, the

Veteran was diagnosed with PTSD.

At that time, the Veteran's PTSD was attributed by both private and VA physicians to his

other health conditions and a serious work-related injury.

Due to the injury, the Veteran filed for worker's

compensation, which according to medical professionals at the

time, deepened his depression.

As indicated above, this claim is further complicated because

prior to 2004, psychiatric treatment records indicate the

Veteran was sexually abused by a family member (his father).

Although there is no formal confirmation of the sexual abuse,

there is paperwork and medical records confirming the Veteran

was placed in foster care as a child due to familial alcohol

addiction and child abuse.

The Veteran also clearly had a troubled youth, evidenced by his petty theft charges, alcohol

and poly-drug abuse at a very early age. All of these events

are evidenced in the record and predate his military service.

In October 2004, the Veteran alleges his memory was refreshed

by a VA health questionnaire asking if he had ever been

sexually assaulted. The Veteran alleges at that moment he

first recalled the events in the military. He believes the

military nurse drugged him for the ankle pain prior to the

rape, which is why he had no memory of the event for years.

The Veteran now claims he was mistaken about accusing a close

family member of sexual abuse and believes the military event

is really the source of his current PTSD.

VA outpatient treatment records from October 2004 confirm the

Veteran for the first time "recalled" in-service sexual

assault. As indicated above, however, the diagnosis PTSD is

noted in his medical records since 2002, two years prior to

the Veteran's "revelation." The diagnosis, moreover, was

attributed to the Veteran's other health conditions and his

serious work-related injury. It is also evident from the

decades' worth of medical records that the Veteran has a

lengthy psychiatric treatment history of bipolar disorder and

poly-drug abuse. Within those decades worth of psychiatric

treatment, medical professionals consistently note the

Veteran's history of child abuse and poly-drug abuse, but are

silent as to any military-related incident responsible for

any psychiatric diagnoses.

The Veteran was afforded a VA examination in July 2005 where

the examiner diagnosed the Veteran with PTSD, bipolar

disorder, poly-substance abuse and personality disorder. The

examiner attributed the Veteran's PTSD to his self-reported

in-service sexual assault, but did not comment on the

Veteran's prior allegation that a close family member

sexually assaulted him. Other than noting the Veteran's

childhood alcohol abuse, it is unclear if the examiner was

aware of the Veteran's relevant childhood social and

psychiatric history. Based on the likelihood the examiner's

opinion was based on incomplete facts, the Board finds the

opinion not probative. See Reonal v. Brown, 5 Vet. App. 458,

460-61 (1993) (A medical opinion based on incorrect factual

premise is not probative).

Even if probative, however, the Veteran's diagnosis must be

attributed to a verified stressor, which is not the case

here. That is, the July 2005 examination as well as other VA

outpatient treatment records provides medical evidence of a

current, competent medical diagnosis of PTSD. The diagnosis,

however, must be attributed to a verified in-service

stressor. Regrettably, the Board concludes the preponderance

of the evidence simply does not verify the alleged MST


That is, the Veteran's first diagnosis of PTSD predates the

Veteran's recollection of the alleged MST by two years. The

Veteran alleges he was an exemplary soldier prior to February

1978, but his personnel records and pre-service records cut

against such a theory. Indeed, it is indisputably evident

the Veteran had disciplinary and legal problems prior to

entering the service. Also compelling, the Veteran alleged a

close family member sexually abused him for decades prior to

alleging MST. The Veteran was placed in foster care, again

prior to entering the military, due to alcohol and child

abuse. It is also well-documented the Veteran's poly-

substance abuse began while he was a child. Also noteworthy,

the Veteran is currently receiving Social Security

Administration (SSA) disability benefits based, in part, to

psychiatric treatment records indicative of his troubled


The Board does not doubt that the Veteran believes he was a

victim of MST. As indicated above, the Veteran is not,

however, competent to diagnose any medical disorder or render

an opinion as to the cause or etiology of any current

disorder because he does not have the requisite medical

knowledge or training. See Rucker, 10 Vet. App. at 74.

Regrettably, the most probative and competent evidence simply

does not support a finding the Veteran's current PTSD is

related to the alleged MST. The most probative and competent

evidence, moreover, simply does not verify the MST.

In summary, the Board finds that the preponderance of the

evidence of record does not show that the Veteran has PTSD

related to alleged MST and, therefore, service-connection is

not warranted. Boyer v. West, 210 F.3d 1351, 1353 (Fed. Cir.

2000); see also, Hickson, supra. In light of the foregoing,

the Board finds that the preponderance of the evidence is

against the claim, and the benefit of the doubt doctrine is

not for application. See generally Gilbert v. Derwinski, 1

Vet. App. 49 (1990); Ortiz v. Principi, 274 F.3d 1361 (Fed

Cir. 2001).


Entitlement to service connection for PTSD, claimed as

secondary to MST, is denied

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Thanks Carlie. ~Wings

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As I have mentioned in the past, identify one stressor and stick to it. Don't muddy the water. Don't tell the doctors at the VA anything that can be held against you at a later date.

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We all have a right to privacy. That means we don't have to give information that is hurtful to our claim.

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When the VA C&P doctor goes on a fishing trip into your childhood prick up your ears. You should just maintain that you had a normal childhood and your problems becan in the service. If you tell them things about your childhood or teenage years that indicate any sort of trouble you are handing them the ax they will use on your neck. When they ask you leading questions to try and indicate you had or have a troubled past before the military you can dodge that by just not taking the bait. I know this from experience.

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I have the same problem with a TBI claim.  Apparently I was diagnosed with a learning disability when I was 13.  I say apparently because I thought it was provisional and after high school and into college I did not have any special accommodation.  But in all the VA wisdom they found this reference in my primary care doctor's records.  

I have overwhelming evidence that points toward severe memory impairment on a neuropsychological exam given after the in service injury.

I have evidence of a traumatic brain injury on 2 different occasions in service.  But go figure VA is going to try to use this as an out.

I am really not sure what they did.  I got rated at 40%, so the gave me the service connection at a reduced rating is the best I can figure.  I am in the process of getting an IMO to correct all of this.  So I would recommend to everyone to be careful of this sort of problem.  I have about 200-250 pages(hold your thumb and pointer finger far apart) of medical records in my claim and they found a single page that referenced this learning disability from 17 years ago.

I will be able to overcome this, just more of a fight and involvement of lawyers and doctors then I anticipated.

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