Jump to content
  • Searches Community Forums, Blog and more

  • 0

Nod With A Second C&p


I am currently rated at 20% for "low back strain". Opened a claim on 5-21-08, had a C&P and the examiner pushed me past the point of pain. Took a week to get better. Feb of 09 I got a decision saying that they are leaving it alone. The examiner put no to a lot of questions that I said yes to and a bunch of other issues. I filed a NOD along with saying I have sciatia and neuropathy. I had a C&P in November and the Doctor went over everything again. I did get rated at 10% each for sciatia and neuropathy. Looking at the C&P she put extension 0-25 degrees and flexion 0-10 degress. Plus a positive goldswath (sp?) sign, where can I find the rating criteria for this? Thanks

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

Recommended Posts


I am in the process of filing a NOD as the CP examiner told me she was new to being an examiner and i think i was her first, she also pushed my head down to get a measurement she wanted causing pain and popping like gristle and almost every answer she put down was not my answer. I got only a rating of 20% for my 3 level cervical fusion and 10% for my lumbar in which i am in allot of pain 24 hours a day.

Below is a listing of all my problems can anyone tell me how many and what claims i can make and how my NOD should read concerning my examine?

Dr. States below:

This gentleman comes in for evaluation of his cervical, thoracic and lumbar spine. He has had a 3 level cervical fusion of his C4-5, C5-6, C6-7, cervical degenerative facet arthropathy, reversal of the cervical lordosis, apexing at C4 accompanied by right sided cervical listing, apophyseal articular degenerative alteration throughout the cervical spine.

Thoracic multisegmental mid to lower thoracic dicongenic spondylosis, T12 vertebral body compression which is likely chronic in nature, multiple thoracic intervertebral dysrelationships (subluxation).

He has schuermann’s disease in his low back involving his L1-2, 2-3 and 4-5, He has an

Annular tear at his 4-5 (spinal stenosis, ruptured disc, intervertebral disc syndrome, sciatica, radiculopathy), degenerative disc disease and arthritis degenerative throughout

his entire spine.

His conditions have progressed over time and will continue to do so and I am afraid to offer him anything more surgically by virtue of the fact it’s hard to know where to stop or start.

His best treatment at this time is going to be on muscle relaxants and anti-inflammatory.

He should stay away from pain medicines if at all possible as he will simply get hooked on them, I suggest he see his primary care physician and or pain management at this point. I strongly feel it’s not in his best interest to continue carpet cleaning because of the stress it places on his entire spine.

Any response would be helpful


Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

If you become unemployed -definitely file for TDIU. And use this C & P exam result as evidence of unemployability.

You need to get the Schedule of ratings -here on hadit to see how your evidence can be shaped into the higher ratings for this condition.

Did the VA mention the Deluca factor in the decision?

Are you able to scan and post here the decision as to their reasons and bases? (Cover the personal stuff)

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Ads

  • Advertisemnt

  • Latest News
  • Our picks

    • Survivors- a Must read
      If you are new to hadit and have DIC questions it would help us tremendously if you can answer the following questions right away in your first post.

      What was the Primary Cause of Death (# 1) as listed on your spouse’s death certificate?

      What,if anything, was listed as a contributing cause under # 2?

      Was an autopsy done and if so do you have a complete copy of it?

       It can be obtained through the Medical Examiner’s office in your locale.

      What was the deceased veteran service connected for in his/her lifetime?

      Did they have a claim pending at death and if so what for?

      If they died from anything on the Agent Orange Presumptive list ( available here under a search) when did they serve and where? If outside of Vietnam, what was their MOS and also if they served onboard a ship in the South Pacific what ship were they on and when? Also did they have any major  physical  contact with C 123s during the Vietnam War?

      And how soon after their death was the DIC form filed…if filed within one year of death, the date of death will be the EED for DIC and also satisfy the accrued regulation criteria.
        • Like
      • 16 replies
    • If you are a Veteran, represented by MOPH, you need to know that MOPH is closing down its offices.  This can have a drastic effect on your claim, and it wont be good for you.  You likely need to get a new representative.  

      This station confirms MOPH is closing its doors:


      • 0 replies
    • Retroactive Back Pay.
      Retroactive Back Pay - #1Viewed Post Week of March 19. 2018

      My claim is scheduled to close tomorrow for my backpay.
      Does anyone know if it does close how long till the backpay hits the bank?
      Also does information only get updated on our claims whenever the site is down?
      • 44 replies
    • Examining your service medical records...
      * First thing I do after receiving a service medical record is number each page when I get to the end I go back and add 1 of 100 and so on.

      * Second I then make a copy of my service medical records on a different color paper, yellow or buff something easy to read, but it will distinguish it from the original.

      * I then put my original away and work off the copy.

      * Now if you know the specific date it's fairly easy to find. 

      * If on the other hand you don't know specifically or you had symptoms leading up to it. Well this may take some detective work and so Watson the game is afoot.

      * Let's say it's Irritable Syndrome 

      * I would start page by page from page 1, if the first thing I run across an entry that supports my claim for IBS, I number it #1, I Bracket it in Red, and then on a separate piece of paper I start to compile my medical evidence log. So I would write Page 10 #1 and a brief summary of the evidence, do this has you go through all the your medical records and when you are finished you will have an index and easy way to find your evidence. 

      Study your diagnosis symptoms look them up. Check common medications for your IBS and look for the symptoms noted in your evidence that seem to point to IBS, if your doctor prescribes meds for IBS, but doesn't call it that make those a reference also.
      • 9 replies
    • How to get your questions answered on the forum
      Do not post your question in someone else's thread. If you are reading a topic that sounds similar to your question, start a new topic and post your question. When you add your question to a topic someone else started both your questions get lost in the thread. So best to start your own thread so you can follow your question and the other member can follow theirs.

      All VA Claims questions should be posted on our forums. Read the forums without registering, to post you must register it’s free. Register for a free account.

      Tips on posting on the forums.

      Post a clear title like ‘Need help preparing PTSD claim’ or “VA med center won’t schedule my surgery” instead of ‘I have a question’.

      Knowledgable people who don’t have time to read all posts may skip yours if your need isn’t clear in the title. I don’t read all posts every login and will gravitate towards those I have more info on.

      Use paragraphs instead of one huge, rambling introduction or story. Again – You want to make it easy for others to help. If your question is buried in a monster paragraph there are fewer who will investigate to dig it out.

      Leading to:

      Post clear questions and then give background info on them.


      A. I was previously denied for apnea – Should I refile a claim?

      I was diagnosed with apnea in service and received a CPAP machine but claim was denied in 2008. Should I refile?

      B. I may have PTSD- how can I be sure?

      I was involved in traumatic incident on base in 1974 and have had nightmares ever since, but I did not go to mental health while enlisted. How can I get help?

      This gives members a starting point to ask clarifying questions like “Can you post the Reasons for Denial from your claim?” etc.


      Your firsts posts on the board may be delayed before they show up, as they are reviewed, this process does not take long and the review requirement will be removed usually by the 6th post, though we reserve the right to keep anyone on moderator preview.

      This process allows us to remove spam and other junk posts before they hit the board. We want to keep the focus on VA Claims and this helps us do that.
      • 2 replies
  • latest-posts-activity.pngstart-new-topic.pngsearch.png

  • Most Common VA Disabilities Claimed for Compensation:   


  • Advertisemnt

  • 14 Questions about VA Disability Compensation Benefits Claims


    When a Veteran starts considering whether or not to file a VA Disability Claim, there are a lot of questions that he or she tends to ask. Over the last 10 years, the following are the 14 most common basic questions I am asked about ...
    Continue Reading
  • Advertisemnt

  • Ads

  • Can a 100 percent Disabled Veteran Work and Earn an Income?

    employment 2.jpeg

    You’ve just been rated 100% disabled by the Veterans Affairs. After the excitement of finally having the rating you deserve wears off, you start asking questions. One of the first questions that you might ask is this: It’s a legitimate question – rare is the Veteran that finds themselves sitting on the couch eating bon-bons … Continue reading


Important Information

{terms] and Guidelines