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Just Had C & P Exam

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I had my exam for SC psych problems this week. I am feeling very apprehensive as the reviewer seemed to be very biased. They did not take many or any notes on all the things I was talking about to support my case, did not note that a civilian pscy I was referred to had been located and mailed a letter. When I referred to what appeared to be about seven pages of mental health visits in my records they said 'they didn't make many notes' - of course not, since these were two-striper technicians for the most part, and not modern doctors dictating reports.

Near the end of the exam I mentioned something about a friend that had nothing to do with my family history and they noted it apparently in relation to alcoholism in family, then got up and left the room to indicate that the meeting was over.

Can I get a copy of whatever report they write? I was told by my vet rep at the state office of vet affairs that we can review the exam and request another if it was not done properly.

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Dear members on hadit (particularly Pete53, Commander Bob, John999, et al)...

RECENT UPDATE in RE to C&P dilemma:

On May 3, I contacted the DVA "800" number and set an appointment to specifically see an Orthopedic doctor at the Ortho Clinic in Salisbury, NC. If I hadn't, it would be the same old Song and Dance visitation at the local clinic with doctors that can't diagnose a hangnail. I have enough negative notes in my file, and will not accept any more.

Both yesterday and today, I posted what I normally post on this board and others regarding the lack of professionalism that the DVA displays, along with the "Veteran being considered as 'Sheep'", and the response from the VP of VMW was quite interesting. Here is the response "Cut & Pasted":

I don't think many will argue with your assessments Bruce. VMW along with VVA attempted a lawsuit against the VA based on violations of constuttional due process (we recently lost the case on appeal). We will continue our efforts to effect change within this antiquated system (VBA) via congressional oversight and grass roots campaigns. Unfortunaltely, we (veterans) tend to be our own worse enemies when it comes to uniting and advocating change.

Typically, veterans become very passionate about the injustices of the VA system when the matter effects them. Once our personal situation resolves (positively or negatively) then we go on with our lives and forget all about those who come after us. Those of us with VMW live by the motto of our Vietnam brothers and sisters "never again shall one generation of veterans abandon another". We realize the magnitude of the problems throughout the current VA systems, as well as our duty to advocate for change on behalf of all veterans and their families.

We take note of all the points you have made Bruce. Hopefully, we can unite "all" veterans to stand together and effectively change these injustices. I appreciate you taking the time to share these matters with our membership. Thank you for your service to our nation and continued service to our nations veterans.

Don

Just thought that you might find this interesting.

Alright...now at this juncture, I'd like to address the recent posts made to me by all...

CommanderBob:

First I'd like to say that I over-reacted in my post to you, and for that I APOLOGIZE! My reasons are clear and heart felt that I indeed DO want to make a difference, and am putting my personal info online for all to see, along with placing my ass on the line. So, when people ridicule, I take it very personal, and lash back, and at times without giving it prior thought.

That over-reaction was based on my not interpreting the message correctly, and for that I ask for your forgiveness!

We are all under a lot of stress because of this stupidly run agency, and after giving it a few days, I realize that bashing each other is not going to resolve anything.

BTW...I received an email regarding a "Friendship" offer...I ACCEPT it, and THANK YOU!

John999

I don't recall ever posting directly to you in the past, however I want to Thank You for your explanations, and in a round about way, comparing the problems with the DVA going as far back as 1971. I imagined that you've (along with many others on here), seen drastic changes with this agency over the years. aka: Agent Orange, PTSD, etc..

I'm glad that it has finally come around for the Vietnam Vets! It was a long time coming. Unfortunately, a lot of VV's could not benefit from the changes made, that may have saved their lives! Thus, my reason for being such an A$$hole with the DVA, TODAY!

I am a POST Vietnam Era Veteran (I enlisted in 1975), yet, I view todays' Veteran just as important, as the rest of us, and REFUSE to see them go through what WE have gone through. It's not right. We are all EQUAL here, and I don't care what rank, race, or ethnicity they, you, or we are. We ALL swore an oath to defend ALL enemies when we enlisted, and a lot of us were either injured, or died to defend this country, with the impression that we and our families would be cared for if and when we were injured, or KIA regardless or how or when. The Gov't. made a promise, and I'm doing my part (as unorthodox as some of you may deem it) to insure that the Gov't. fulfills its' obligations to us!

Am I going to benefit?...YES. I'm not hiding this fact. Yet, so will ALL of us!

Pete53

For a while now, I've responded to a few of your posts, and till the other day, I've enjoyed conversing, along with attempting to assist you, in the best way that I know how.

However, did I ever offend you in some way to deserve a comment whereas you stated:

"You broke half a dozen rules on Hadit but I am to tired to fix and sort things out."

What rules did I break, by showing my disgust with this agency? I'm trying to motivate others on here with THOUGHT processes to fight for their rights. Are you saying that we shouldn't do this, and leave well enough alone?

I'm not asking you to make any sort of corrections here, but this board is to gain the necessary knowledge to obtain the benefits, in which we are ALL entitled to.

You more than a majority of Vets on this board knows that, if the DVA is violating any sort of right and/or law, people like me WILL speak out, and offer our advice.

Granted...I like to go after the DVA, in a way that my be intimidating to others, but how else are we supposed to change things if we don't act on the violations that we here are complaining about?!

Do you honestly think that posting complaints on this board will change anything on its' own? NO.

Yet, when "I" complain to Gov't. officials, I do refer them here to see for themselves.

Even though a few of you saw recent posts regarding my refusal to attend a C&P exam, there was a few things which a majority of you missed...

#1) The right to see a doctor of your choice, for a C&P, that possesses the knowledge of your ailments...

A few of you had mentioned that you (me) should attend a C&P and worry about the misstated issues later. My response is WHY? That's more unnecessary garbage in my file by an imbecile that shouldn't be conducting my particular C&P to begin with! This is ILLOGICAL. Do you guys/gals realize that a majority of doctors review what the last said, and use their own wording to say what was said in the past? What if the prior doctor was an idiot, and didn't have virtually no knowledge of your condition? Just think what VSR's must go through when THEY have to weed through this garbage?! do you guys/gals also realize that ratings are decided via these (supposed) opinions?

What if they're WRONG? That's the MAIN problem with the DVA...their doctors!

Don't think it is? Then, answer this...

What's the first thing that is done as soon as you leave the service, and you apply for Disability Benefits?

Answer: You see a VA doctor! What if the prognosis is inaccurate? The domino effect starts here.

#2) Obtain an IMO to controvert what a VA doctor has stated...

A few of you mentioned this to. You are absolutely CORRECT in this, HOWEVER, you fail to realize that a lot of Veterans can barely afford putting food on the table, let alone seeing a GP or specialist. Until a few years ago, I couldn't afford to see an Ortho doctor! I was at the mercy of the VA doctors, and today, I'm seeing the results!

I even had Medicare, and it was still expensive to see a doctor, especially a Neurosurgeon (w/PhD), that actually conversed and agreed to my explanations/theories, and most importantly he DOCUMENTED this conversation, along with his findings.

#3) Do NOT MISS THE C&P EXAM...

Normally, I couldn't agree more with this statement, yet no one here realizes what orchestrated my particular C&P exam. If you review a particular post, I had stated that roughly a year earlier (June 2009) I already attended a C&P exam. What orchestrated THIS C&P was my threatening letter to Regional Counsel, to resolve this claim within 60 days, or I rally the Veterans to partake in a Class Action.

On two days before the 60th day, the DVA notifies me to attend another C&P?! What's wrong with THIS picture? Was this a VA "Trump Card" or is it that the DVA does NOT possess the preponderance of evidence, and they're trying to get more negative connotations in my file?

Do you all see the psychology being played here? Including the delay tactic also being used? Am I being paranoid?

Regardless, I stand by my actions, and in doing so it benefits ALL...that is my goal.

Thanks for your understanding, patience, and comradery.

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Dear members on hadit (particularly Pete53, Commander Bob, John999, et al)...

RECENT UPDATE in RE to C&P dilemma:

Pete53

What rules did I break, by showing my disgust with this agency?

hollywoodnc,

If you haven't noticed, many members here are also disgusted with the DVA.

Most of them are also not right out of the starting gate, they too have been fighting

for their benefits for years.

You can surely bash the DVA all you want, it happens on a regular basis world wide,

but most people have learned - the DVA can afford more lawyers than we can.

"What rules did I break"

Stop all of your consistent cursing ! A hell or a damned is one thing, but

enough already.

For another thing, (although it isn't against Hadits few rules), is that you've certainly

jumped into someone else's topic thread and torn it to pieces.

Usually members start their own topic thread with their question or info., especially

if it's a rant.

Granted...I like to go after the DVA, in a way that my be intimidating to others, but how else are we supposed to change things if we don't act on the violations that we here are complaining about?!

hollywoodnc,

Do you honestly think you intimidate the DVA ?

Even though a few of you saw recent posts regarding my refusal to attend a C&P exam, there was a few things which a majority of you missed...

#1) The right to see a doctor of your choice, for a C&P, that possesses the knowledge of your ailments...

#2) Obtain an IMO to controvert what a VA doctor has stated...

A few of you mentioned this to. You are absolutely CORRECT in this, HOWEVER, you fail to realize that a lot of Veterans can barely afford putting food on the table, let alone seeing a GP or specialist. Until a few years ago, I couldn't afford to see an Ortho doctor! I was at the mercy of the VA doctors, and today, I'm seeing the results!

I even had Medicare, and it was still expensive to see a doctor, especially a Neurosurgeon (w/PhD), that actually conversed and agreed to my explanations/theories, and most importantly he DOCUMENTED this conversation, along with his findings.

hollywoodnc,

NO - You DO NOT have "The right to see a doctor of your choice, for a C&P",

The DVA is paying for the C&P they order, of their choice as a part of their DTA.

If the DVA doesn't get the right exam or rates on an inadequate C&P exam, well

then the poor old vet usually can't fight it much without an IMO/IME, or taking it

to BVA or CAVC.

If you want,"The right to see a doctor of your choice", then as posted earlier, you go and get

an IMO/IME, and pay for it.

Most of us here have been broke as heck and prioritized our finances quarter by quarter

to get IMO/IME's.

#3) Do NOT MISS THE C&P EXAM...

Normally, I couldn't agree more with this statement, yet no one here realizes what orchestrated my particular C&P exam. If you review a particular post, I had stated that roughly a year earlier (June 2009) I already attended a C&P exam. What orchestrated THIS C&P was my threatening letter to Regional Counsel, to resolve this claim within 60 days, or I rally the Veterans to partake in a Class Action.

hollywoodnc,

The Regional Counsel, The General Council,and the DVA are in no way threatened by any

letter/s you write them.

They will however, send people knocking on your door if you make physical threats.

They do not give a rats behind if you want to rally the troops and file a Class Action Suit,

all that means to them is the lawyers on their payrolls will finally have to do a little work for

their money.

Do you all see the psychology being played here? Including the delay tactic also being used? Am I being paranoid?

hollywoodnc,

We all understand the DVA delay tactics.

IMO, the only way DVA will ever stop these delays is if they have to start paying interest

on our claims money when the claims are finally granted.

carlie

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Hollywood:

I let your post stand but I also warned for the following.

When as a Moderator I see bad advice I have to say something or in some cases do something. Any advice not to go to a C&P unrefuted on this Board is wrong. Major rule of Hadit is not to attack Members.Its ok to disagree but you have to be polite.

Let me explain something we have learned that many who come to Hadit are fragile and for some a post that is over the top can cause a lot of problems or result in a flame war on this Board.

Carlie explained much better my action was to get you to tone down your post.

Lastly as far as C&P's we have seen a lot of posts where a Vet with a good claim has been denied simply because they did not go to C&P.

I hope that you win your claim and I have always tried to respond to your posts with positive information.

That is all I have to say about this subject but I will continue to read all that is posted in this thread.

Pete

5 C&P's and 2 IMO's

100% Panic Disorder

30% Pes Planus

SMC S Rating

5 1/2 Years of hell to make 100%

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I just had my C&P yesterday for the IHD/AO.

Up to the time I was able to find a service organization seemingly competent or interested enough to help me I was without any real hope of progress. It was a pretty daunting and emotional experience just being on the grounds of Phoenix's VA and it was, for me, a VA contact and the DAV who brought a lot into focus.

The consulting physician was a retired heart surgeon and professor who let me in even though I was stupid enough to confuse the time of the appointment. Heart disease you know.

The point is even a forum such as this won't be effective unless you can use the services of our vet organizations. The local DAV served as the repository for all documents I needed to submit to the VA. I gave the DAV a special power of attorney which allows them to receive my documents, copy and store them, and send them on to the VA. They also had every form necessary for a response and access to the VA database for status reports.

I needed the help of an empathetic and knowledgeable agent and got it.

I'm still paranoid enough to check the records the VA actually has.

You want to be careful though. ONE special power of attorney ONLY!

I had tried, unsuccessfully, to use the VFW on an earlier claim attempt. I hope they are better now. But I had signed an authorization for the VFW to represent me with the VA. That was still on record when I restarted my claims and confused the issue for a while. DAV and I figured it out the process is grinding along.

I read this entire thread. It was tough reading for me but I have been there in every way and am still breathing. Those primal screams can help sometimes.

Hoa Binh

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I just had my C&P yesterday for the IHD/AO...

Hoa Binh

'Dak To II ATC'... It took about 90 days from my C&P exam until I recived the award ( denial ) letter.

So, your AO was Hoa Binh, You were up in the mountians...I was Army, 11bravo, in the Central Highlands 1967-68, just south of you. Humping the mountains was not fun, but when we got to fly around in choppers, the mountains were beautiful...

Good luck with your claim.

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