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    You’ve just been rated 100% disabled by the Veterans Affairs. After the excitement of finally having the rating you deserve wears off, you start asking questions. One of the first questions that you might ask is this: It’s a legitimate question – rare is the Veteran that finds themselves sitting on the couch eating bon-bons … Continue reading

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I ran across this interesting website. It contains quite a lot of great information but, for Blue Water Sailors, you can track any typhoons you ran through in a given year. Obviously, the storms of interest would be the ones that traveled into and through Vietnam. There's no doubt the sea and seabed would have been heavily roiled and any dioxin laden material would have been suspended in the water for quite a long time and who knows how far it would have traveled. I wish I'd seen this site while my claim was still at the VARO, or at least, the BVA. It would certainly add ammunition to go with the RAN study and the ensuing IOM confirmation of that RAN study.
There were, for instance, 26 in '70, 36 in '71 and 31 in '72, the years I spent full tours. My short stint over there in '73 had none in the 45 days I was there.

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