Well I am going to see an outside doctor for sure, as much as I hate too because I prefer staying off of programs like this i applied for medicaid and I'm fairly sure ill get it since I just have to live off the 974 the VA gives me. I've had multiple MRIs done of my spine and other than the mild protrusion and i think they said moderate scoliosis as well there is nothing they are seeing wrong with my spine. I've told them from the beginning of me going to the VA that my uupper back problem was musclulatory. I hurt it in boot camp and had problems all through my 4 years in the Marine Corps. I have already switch primary care doctors once at the Evansville clinic and have he has the same attitude towards me. They act like I'm faking things and I have literally been on 8 different medications for pain that had no effect. The last time I was working my back started hurting so bad I had to go to the emergency room. They prescribed me hydrocodine which is the only medicine that has given me any pain relief in the last three years. After they prescribed that I went to my primary care doctor, told him they prescribed it to me and told him it has been the only thing thats helped and i asked if we could try that. He said that that was drug seeking behavior and would not prescribe it. He told me that those medicines were basically out of the question and when i asked why he said that the only reason doctors in the private sector prescribe that is because its "big business", his exact words, then when i said that was bullshit he told me that if they prescribed me that now what were they going to give me when i was older and such. I told him i didnt care i was worried about right now and holding a job. The last time i was at work I literally had to take four pills to make it through an 8 hour shift. I don't get any real kind of buzz from them, i get slight pain relief, enough to be bearable, and i get hot and itchy so I'm seriously not looking for drugs. Just the ability to stand on my feet and work since I have no skills for a sit down job, I was in the infantry and on the company sniper team. So I'm pretty sure I'm like blacklisted by them or something, which is rediculous. Does anyone know of any organizations i can join that help with these issues. I also have PTSD and it really effects my ability to stay on track with all of this, to keep things organized, and my ability to understand and remember everything thats been said and such. So i kind of feel like i need my damn hand held through this disaster. I've already made the mistake of being very vocal about my thoughts of the VA to the doctors, nurses, and patient advocates and I feel like all of them blow me off. I highly doubt the director would be any different but I guess I can try that route. I'll just have to do some homework to figure out who he is and what to say I suppose. I do not know of any local lawyers that have handled the VA before so I guess I should call around. I honestly don't kknow if I even have a real case though I feel like I probably do considering how I'm treated every time I walk in the VAs doors.