Jump to content


  • veteranscrisisline-badge-chat-1.gif

  • Advertisemnt

  • Trouble Remembering? This helped me.

    I have memory problems and as some of you may know I highly recommend Evernote and have for years. Though I've found that writing helps me remember more. I ran across Tom's videos on youtube, I'm a bit geeky and I also use an IPad so if you take notes on your IPad or you are thinking of going paperless check it out. I'm really happy with it, I use it with a program called Noteshelf 2.

    Click here to purchase your digital journal. HadIt.com receives a commission on each purchase.

  • 14 Questions about VA Disability Compensation Benefits Claims

    questions-001@3x.png

    When a Veteran starts considering whether or not to file a VA Disability Claim, there are a lot of questions that he or she tends to ask. Over the last 10 years, the following are the 14 most common basic questions I am asked about ...
    Continue Reading
     
  • Ads

  • Most Common VA Disabilities Claimed for Compensation:   

    tinnitus-005.pngptsd-005.pnglumbosacral-005.pngscars-005.pnglimitation-flexion-knee-005.pngdiabetes-005.pnglimitation-motion-ankle-005.pngparalysis-005.pngdegenerative-arthitis-spine-005.pngtbi-traumatic-brain-injury-005.png

  • Advertisemnt

  • VA Watchdog

  • Advertisemnt

  • Ads

  • Can a 100 percent Disabled Veteran Work and Earn an Income?

    employment 2.jpeg

    You’ve just been rated 100% disabled by the Veterans Affairs. After the excitement of finally having the rating you deserve wears off, you start asking questions. One of the first questions that you might ask is this: It’s a legitimate question – rare is the Veteran that finds themselves sitting on the couch eating bon-bons … Continue reading

Recommended Posts

I'd like to hear from Vets who have had to sign a Narcotic Contract in order to receive pain meds from a VA medical center.

What state and what facility has asked you to sign this contract?

How was the contract presented to you?

Were there consequences if you did not sign it?

Have there been negative consequences as a result of signing this contract.

Have you asked any questions concerning the contract such as who and or how did this contract come into existence?

What are your thoughts about having such a contract even if you have not been asked to sign one.

If you have a copy of your contract would you be willing to send me a copy ( a blank copy is good enough )

If you think that medication abuse takes place what percentage of Vets do you think abuse RX meds?

Edited by Tbird

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I signed a contract for narcotic pain meds with the VAMC in Tampa Florida. I don't think this is unusual. What the VA is worried about is vets getting pain meds and then selling them instead of using them. What happens is that once you sign the contract you have to take a urine and blood test once or twice a year to see if the narcotic is in your system. If it is not in your system then you have to explain why. The VA is much more easy going than many pain management clinics who will only prescribe a month's supply at a time. The VA is also more inclined to prescribe more powerful pain meds than most other doctors. The contract is not a big deal as long as you abide by it. Just be sure you have the dope in your system when you go in for blood work. The feds hound many pain private pain management doctors and they are paranoid as hell about prescribing what is necessary. The VA is not in my experience.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The VA prescribes meds to keep the Vet away from the Doctors.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I signed a contract for narcotic pain meds with the VAMC in Tampa Florida. I don't think this is unusual. What the VA is worried about is vets getting pain meds and then selling them instead of using them. What happens is that once you sign the contract you have to take a urine and blood test once or twice a year to see if the narcotic is in your system. If it is not in your system then you have to explain why. The VA is much more easy going than many pain management clinics who will only prescribe a month's supply at a time. The VA is also more inclined to prescribe more powerful pain meds than most other doctors. The contract is not a big deal as long as you abide by it. Just be sure you have the dope in your system when you go in for blood work. The feds hound many pain private pain management doctors and they are paranoid as hell about prescribing what is necessary. The VA is not in my experience.

I know all the right reasons for having one. But it seems that no one knows who gave the orders to present this document into VA health care system.

There is no header or footer with offical information on any of the ones that I have seen. If you accept the defintion : "A contract is a legally binding exchange of promises or agreement between parties that the law will enforce." Then one might ask: What happens when the VA does not abide by it's promise"? Some of these contracts although approved by regional counsel may in fact be illegal. This is why I'm seeking comparative information and accounts of negative consequences.

As we all know what happens in the real world of medicine is not necessarily what happens in the VA now is it?

Edited by Steppenwolf

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The VA prescribes meds to keep the Vet away from the Doctors.

Can't seem to get those pages to load. Can you check to see it they're listed correctly?

Thanks

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  

  • Ads

  • Our picks

    • Tinnitus comes in two forms: subjective and objective. In subjective tinnitus, only the sufferer will hear the ringing in their own ears. In objective tinnitus, the sound can be heard by a doctor who is examining the ear canals. Objective tinnitus is extremely rare, while subjective tinnitus is by far the most common form of the disorder.

      The sounds of tinnitus may vary with the person experiencing it. Some will hear a ringing, while others will hear a buzzing. At times people may hear a chirping or whistling sound. These sounds may be constant or intermittent. They may also vary in volume and are generally more obtrusive when the sufferer is in a quiet environment. Many tinnitus sufferers find their symptoms are at their worst when they’re trying to fall asleep.

      ...................Buck
        • Like
    • Precedent Setting CAVC cases cited in the M21-1
      A couple months back before I received my decision I started preparing for the appeal I knew I would be filing.  That is how little faith I had in the VA caring about we the veteran. 

      One of the things I did is I went through the entire M21-1 and documented every CAVC precedent case that the VA cited. I did this because I wanted to see what the rater was seeing.  I could not understand for the life of me why so many obviously bad decisions were being handed down.  I think the bottom line is that the wrong type of people are hired as raters.  I think raters should have some kind of legal background.  They do not need to be lawyers but I think paralegals would be a good idea.

      There have been more than 3500 precedent setting decisions from the CAVC since 1989.  Now we need to concede that all of them are not favorable to the veteran but I have learned that in a lot of cases even though the veteran lost a case it some rules were established that assisted other veterans.

      The document I created has about 200 or so decisions cited in the M21-1.   Considering the fact that there are more than 3500 precedent cases out there I think it is safe to assume the VA purposely left out decisions that would make it almost impossible to deny veteran claims.  Case in point. I know of 14 precedent setting decisions that state the VA cannot ignore or give no weight to outside doctors without providing valid medical reasons as to why.  Most of these decision are not cited by the M21.

      It is important that we do our due diligence to make sure we do not get screwed.  I think the M21-1 is incomplete because there is too much information we veterans are finding on our own to get the benefits we deserve

      M21-1 Precedent setting decisions .docx
        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 5 replies
    • Any one heard of this , I filed a claim for this secondary to hypertension, I had a echo cardiogram, that stated the diagnosis was this heart disease. my question is what is the rating for this. attached is the Echo.

      doc00580220191213082945.pdf
      • 7 replies
    • Need your support - T-shirts Available - Please buy a mug or a membership
      if you have been thinking about subscribing to an ad-free forum or buying a mug now would a very helpful time to do that.

      Thank you for your support
      • 18 replies
    • OK everyone thanks for all the advice I need your help I called VSO complained about length of time on Wednesday of this week today I checked my E benefits and my ratings are in for my ankles that they were denying me 10% for each bilateral which makes 21% I was originally 80% now they’re still saying I’m 80% 

      I’m 50% pes planus 30% migraine headaches 20% lumbar 10% tinnitus and now bilateral 21% so 10% left and right ankle Can someone else please do the math because I come up with 86% which makes me 90 what am I missing please help and thank you
  • Ads

  • Popular Contributors

  • Ad

  • Latest News
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

{terms] and Guidelines