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Possible 25 % Comp Increase


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This is all I have so far-from Colonel Dan- the report wont be available until this afternoon:

Report will be available on line at: http://www.vetscommission.org/ later this afternoon

Panel to call for 25% hike in disability pay

also read this report:

https://www.1888932-2946.ws/vetscommission/..._August2007.pdf

By Rick Maze - Staff writer

Posted : Wednesday Oct 3, 2007 6:01:24 EDT

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/10/mili...report_071002w/

A presidential commission will call Wednesday for an immediate 25 percent increase in veterans’ disability compensation while awaiting a larger overhaul of disability and transition benefits.

The Veterans’ Disability Benefits Commission will say the current compensation system is outdated and fails to consider the complete impact that a service-connected disability has on the life of veterans and their families. Report will be available on line at: http://www.vetscommission.org/ later this afternoon

The current system also is unnecessarily cumbersome to the point that it discourages veterans from getting the help they deserve, says the commission report, a copy of which was obtained Tuesday by the Military Times.

The 562-page report will be released Wednesday afternoon, although what happens next is unclear. Most of the recommendations, including the proposed 25 percent benefits boost, would require congressional action before they could take effect.

With the Bush administration already balking at the $4 billion increase in veterans’ health care and benefits programs being pushed by Congress, it is unlikely that administration officials would support further increases.

However, an overhaul of the veterans’ disability rating system, streamlined claims processing and an easier transition from military to veterans programs are all issues under consideration by Congress, and could end up included in the Wounded Warrior Assistance Act that lawmakers expect to pass later this year. An overhaul of the military’s complicated disability retirement and physical evaluation process is expected to be part of that bill.

The report by the 13-member commission, led by retired Army Lt. Gen. James Scott, caps more than two years of work, including several precedent-setting studies of disabled veterans and their compensation that looked at their total income and compared military and veterans’ benefits to those received by disabled workers who never served in the military.

In calling for an overhaul of the military and Department of Veterans Affairs rating systems, the commission said a revised system needs to be fair so that people who have experienced similar losses receive similar compensation. Veterans with mental disorders, including post-traumatic stress disorder, are particularly poorly served by the current rating system, the report says.

The VA ratings schedule that sets disability levels has not been changed in 62 years, and needs to be updated, the commission says, with top priority going to revising the ratings for PTSD, traumatic brain injury and other mental health and neurological body systems says. This could be done quickly, in time to help Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans, while leaving a review of the rest of the ratings to roll out over five years.

The commission comes down squarely on the side of veterans on several controversial issues. For example, it supports allowing disabled retirees to receive full veterans’ disability compensation and military retired pay when they are eligible for both, and to allow survivors to receive their full veterans’ and military survivors’ benefits.

On both of those issues, the Pentagon has resisted efforts in Congress to allow both payments in full, although in recent years lawmakers have been phasing out the mandatory offsets in one pay or the other that had been on the books for decades.

One recommendation that may not please veterans calls for periodic reviews of case in which disability pay is based, in part, on the fact that a veteran’s disability prohibits him or her from holding a job.

When former VA Secretary R. James Nicholson made a similar recommendation several years ago, veterans went wild about the government trying to cut their payments.

The commission calls for periodical and comprehensive evaluations of disabled veterans’ employability status, and a way to slowly wean veterans off benefits if it is possible for them to return to work at some point.

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I hope we older or younger vets don't get stabbed in the back with the fine print. Any time the VA starts to get decent with vets I have to start to worry about the hidden agenda. You know that ultimately the VA would love to somehow move vets off compensation and back to work. The Federal Office of Workers Compensation does it by hook or crook. That would be a example I hope the VA never follows. I can't believe the administration is going to go along with a across the board 25% increase in compensation for disabled vets. They vetoed health care for poor children. I am going to read the report. Let's discuss this thing in detail when we can.

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Larry Scott expects to see a 25% raise about the same time Starbucks starts selling coffee for a quarter rofl

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I think the report will be on the shelf gathering dust. Major increaes in compensation won't happen or will be vetoed and major cuts will not be tolerated by congress so nothing happens.

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Smoke and mirrors

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Wow. I dont expect it to happen but if it does, It will be deserved.

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I think the report will be on the shelf gathering dust. Major increaes in compensation won't happen or will be vetoed and major cuts will not be tolerated by congress so nothing happens.

i think the key word is ((((up to))) first they will say ... ok we cant afford this you know with all that is going out for Iraq, military presence in Korea, giving to iran and north korea to make american safe and dont forget our problem in mexico and of course our military presence in Philippines and Germany and our aid to Africa, did i forget anything... so with this in mind we are going to give a well deserved amount just not now... so that is out of the way now we are going to need you to give us something.. this is how it will most likely go...

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Congress should increase the compensation rates

up to 25 percent as an interim and baseline future

benefit for loss of quality of life, pending

development and implementation of quality-of-life

measure in the Rating Schedule. In particular, the

measure should take into account the quality of life

and other non-work-related effects of severe

disabilities on veterans and family members.

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Larry Scott expects to see a 25% raise about the same time Starbucks starts selling coffee for a quarter rofl

Amazing today Starbucks in Seattle started selling Coffee for .25 Cents.

Of course U have to be there at 3:34 am and only order the Mexican Taco Coffee which is sold out.

U crack me up. Thanks for the Laugh!

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and trying to get vets back to work who are i.u. and 100%. you know what that means more reviews of iu and 100%. i have said it many times just becuase you are p&t dont think you wont be called back in for another c&p. be ready with current medical records. and I am waiting for the day they offset ssd and va comp.

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When and if they start calling these Long Time IU and 100% unemployable vets in for re-exams they better get plenty more VA police to handle the freak outs and breserk vets. Part of the new recommendations are to find a way to get rid of the TDIU designation. It is in the report. IU and 100% beneftis are expensive and that is what they care about in the government. I continue to see my VA shrink and get meds. In my present condition just going to the store is a big deal much less working.

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maybe they can hire all the IU vets they throw off as new VA Police rofl

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Funny and I would not put it past them.

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You probably would need to apply the VA fuzzy math to the increase. Lets see..25% of the 25% we didn't get last year either..that is 6.25%. Then, multiply that by 25% of wont we wont get next year either, that is, well about a little less than the COLA of about 2-3%

Why does the VA get away with the "fuzzy math", plus the delays, the lowballing, etc. etc? Because they CAN and we havent done anything about it, and we sit there and let them do it to us mostly without vaseline, first.

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To all,

I read a short news item about this today. I have also read other news reports regarding disability compensation and possibly dropping it when a vet reaches 65. My gut feeling is that this will end up pitting one class of disabled vet against another. That hurts us all.

I hope that I am wrong!

Ed

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maybe they can hire all the IU vets they throw off as new VA Police rofl

I tried to get a job when I applied for IU. My file got pulled for 3 GS5 Jobs and they hired from within.

The have a screwed up job system.

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quality-of-life?

They will send you into that meat grinder over and over again until there's little of you to send back home, and all to support a completely corrupt government.

They will withhold pain medication, referrals, lab tests, MRI's and physical therapy to save money.

There are thousands of brain injured troops walking the streets today. They are sick & labeled as having a "personality disorders preexisting their repeated tour's in a war zone". They don't get treatment and they don't receive a dime for what they are left to live with on a daily bases. Oh yes. They sure care about our quality of life.

quality-of-life? I believe there are many in our government that honestly are concerned and work for change.

Unfortunately, like the Iraq government, much of our government is corrupt and controlled by administration officials that have their own political agenda.

They lack the human decency to limit our troops stay in IRAQ to one year with one year rest. So are these same wonderful people who are so dead against mandatory funding for veterans benefits going to approve a 25% increase?

Maybe. Anything is possible and I'm one that believes in miracles.

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To all,

I read a short news item about this today. I have also read other news reports regarding disability compensation and possibly dropping it when a vet reaches 65. My gut feeling is that this will end up pitting one class of disabled vet against another. That hurts us all.

I hope that I am wrong!

Ed

This reminds me of CRSC and CRDC If you aere 50 percent and retires you can collect both 40% nothing

Jim

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I finished reading that 500+ report...What I didn't see was the mention of P/T anywhere so I would say if you have been granted P/T that there is a slim chance that you will be brought in for a re-evaluation... what the VA will concentrate on are the claims that are just UI even Social Sercurity will do re-evals unitl you have been on SSDI for I believe 10 years (please don't quote me on that)...so it would make sence that yes, you may be Unemplyable now...but your condition may improve enough within 2-3 years that with voc rehab you would be able to go back into the workforce...as the report mentioned that the plan is to gradually bring the disabled vet back into the workforce...not just cut off the UI benifit, kinda like the SSA ticket to work...they were hitting hard on revamping the criteria for UI there is mention that prior to awarding UI (which I think they will faze out..either you are 100% schedual or P/T)that the vet will need to be evaluated by voc rehab and if the vet's disability prohibits them from working then P/T will be assigned...by the gist of the report I sence they will be adapting some of the established Social Secruity screening procedure's....I don't see that an offset between SSDI and VA comp...SSDI is based on quarters that we have paid into...whereas VA, is the workman compensation company (more or less) for the U.S. department of defense. And if the U.S. department of Defense...decided to create an offset that would open up a can of worms better left closed.

another reason I came to that conclusion regarding the offset is because there is mention in the report that some of the young hero's coming home have not put in enough quarters to qualify of SSDI...so what the report recommends that SSA bypasses that requirement for wounded veterans that do not meet the quarters requirement.

anyways I am going to re-read the report...there is quite a bit to absorb...many of the 113 recommandations will not be voted in...some of the area's need work...esp. the recommendations regarding PTSD...as far as I see...what is being proposed borders on discrimination to be so focused on one disability...yes there need to be reform ...esp. in the way claims are reviewed there is no consistancy among VARO...there is no set criteria...there needs to be one set of criteria for everyone...as how they review and determine disability ratio's...

well enough said...these are just my thoughts...

MT

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This reminds me of CRSC and CRDC If you aere 50 percent and retires you can collect both 40% nothing

Jim

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Hi,

The Concurrent Retirement and Disability Payments (CRDP) program requires the total disabilities to be at least 50%. The Combat Related Special Compensation program (CRDP) requires

  • Retired with 20 yrs Active or Reserve Duty;
  • Receiving retired pay;
  • Retired pay must be offset by VA payments;
  • A 10%+ disability rating; and
  • At least one combat-related disability.

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