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Around The Mulberry Bush I Go Again With The Amc


Josephine

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Greeting to all,

Well, Here I go around the Mulberry Bush again.

I thought that I was getting somewhere with this AMC claim.

The Rating Specialist had my claims file exactly one year ago this month to go back to the "two psychiatrist."

It went back to her/him again.

I was told that the " Rating Supervisor" had the claim to sign.

Not true!! The Rating Specialist turned the file over for more information.

Berta was correct. The letter by my doctor sent April 2006 was not present in my claim and neither was the letter by my Pastor, per the request of the remand.

This is why my doctor received the last letter to which he sent his fouth letter to them.

Now, I am told again, all the information is in the file, but who knows, it has been 12 months for the person that checked the file to not see that they were not present.

Lidel told me today that the file went from the " Rating Supervior" to Claims Examiner to place each paper in its correct order to go back to the " Rating Specialist".

He told me to call back tomorrow to make sure that the claim was back at the " Rating Specialist".

How does so many people check a claim to find out a year, that they have lost important papers.

I have been moved up to an anwer by " Thanksgiving". I forgot to ask him which year. I will make a point to ask him this question tomorrow.

This will make 18 months at the AMC and this is an " Advancement on the Docket"

Josephine

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Im getting dizzy from being on the same Merry go Round as you. Today it's 845 days at AMC. I m waiting for my IMO from Dr. Bash, then I ll send it and a letter from me via certified mail and hope they do not loose it. Many internet publications I sent to AMC about my back condition were not in the claims file, prolly discarded because they were not case specific.

I do not want my claim with a rater until I submit my IMO.

Happy Trails

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Im getting dizzy from being on the same Merry go Round as you. Today it's 845 days at AMC. I m waiting for my IMO from Dr. Bash, then I ll send it and a letter from me via certified mail and hope they do not loose it. Many internet publications I sent to AMC about my back condition were not in the claims file, prolly discarded because they were not case specific.

I do not want my claim with a rater until I submit my IMO.

Happy Trails

Paul

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Hi

Im getting dizzy from being on the same Merry go Round as you. Today it's 845 days at AMC. I m waiting for my IMO from Dr. Bash, then I ll send it and a letter from me via certified mail and hope they do not loose it. Many internet publications I sent to AMC about my back condition were not in the claims file, prolly discarded because they were not case specific.

I do not want my claim with a rater until I submit my IMO.

Happy Trails

Paul

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Paul,

I certaily wouldn't want the rater to have your claim until you turn in your IMO from Dr. Bash.

Just wondering, has anyone mentioned that when you fax information to the AMC that you must place this Unit on the Fax Sheet.

It is:

Appeals Management Center Unit 397.

Finally after 18 months, Ernest explained without this unit number, they have no way of knowing where your fax went to.

Everyone just assumed that someone else gave it to me.

Always and the Best,

Betty

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Hello Josephine,

Getting the evidence into your file is one thing. after you've forced them to put it there, you will need to get them to recognize it and act on it in accordance with the laws.

The AMC sent my folder to St Petersburg VARO contractors to trash after I sent in Dr Bashs IMO. They completely blew it off and denied it.

Dr Bash sent in two more IMO's but they denied the claim again without giving them any consideration or listing them as evidence. The Board of Veterans appeals remanded it back to the appeals center again in June 06 holding them in violation for denying the claim.

These so called rating specialists can get away with anything and it will be labeled as an error?

Intentional criminal acts designed to cheat veterans out of their benefits are not errors.

Such crimes against disabled Veterans should be made an example out of just like the ones receiving benefits that aren't even veterans. If they can hunt those frauds down, they should be able to track those rating specialists down and prosecute them for their crimes.

Allan

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Hello Josephine,

Getting the evidence into your file is one thing. after you've forced them to put it there, you will need to get them to recognize it and act on it in accordance with the laws.

The AMC sent my folder to St Petersburg VARO contractors to trash after I sent in Dr Bashs IMO. They completely blew it off and denied it.

Dr Bash sent in two more IMO's but they denied the claim again without giving them any consideration or listing them as evidence. The Board of Veterans appeals remanded it back to the appeals center again in June 06 holding them in violation for denying the claim.

These so called rating specialists can get away with anything and it will be labeled as an error?

Intentional criminal acts designed to cheat veterans out of their benefits are not errors.

Such crimes against disabled Veterans should be made an example out of just like the ones receiving benefits that aren't even veterans. If they can hunt those frauds down, they should be able to track those rating specialists down and prosecute them for their crimes.

Allan

Such crimes against disabled Veterans should be made an example out of just like the ones receiving benefits that aren't even veterans. If they can hunt those frauds down, they should be able to track those rating specialists down and prosecute them for their crimes.

Allen,

I think that these "rating specialist" receive a bonus at the end of each year for every claim that they deny and think how many veterans won't continue with their claims.

I am trusting that I may have an honest one, since they did take the time to send my claims file to their " Supervisor" for assistance and she/he in turn did re-contact my own doctor for more information.

I am holding on to the thought "an unjust Rating Specialist" would have just stamped a denial and kept trucking to the next one.

My claims file is now back on its' way to the Rating Supervisor.

They in the end may prove and change my thinking on this claim.

Always and Best for You,

Josephine

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Allan - this is my biggest gripe with the VA: no true accountability for the quality of their work product. If we could charge them interest on back benefits and know that THEIR pay and promotion was directly tied to the QUALITY and ACCURACY of their work, then there'd be some integrity in the system.

Betty - hang in there, keep us posted. As you know, miracles have a way of happening around Christmas! ;-)

Thanks,

TS

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Allan - this is my biggest gripe with the VA: no true accountability for the quality of their work product. If we could charge them interest on back benefits and know that THEIR pay and promotion was directly tied to the QUALITY and ACCURACY of their work, then there'd be some integrity in the system.

Betty - hang in there, keep us posted. As you know, miracles have a way of happening around Christmas! ;-)

Thanks,

TS

Ts,

Thanks so much, Yes they most certainly do. If it wasn't for ones like you, I couldn't hang in there.

Always and God Bless,

Betty

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No accoutability for errors and delays that cost vets their homes, cars, credit and families is what we get from the VA. I am sorry your claim went to St. Petersburg,Allan, as these people are experts at preverting claims and twisting facts. You would not believe the tricks they have pulled on me over the years. They use "time" as a weapon.

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St. Petersburg VARO SUCKS ! Check out all the BVA remands from there.

jmho,

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No accoutability for errors and delays that cost vets their homes, cars, credit and families is what we get from the VA. I am sorry your claim went to St. Petersburg,Allan, as these people are experts at preverting claims and twisting facts. You would not believe the tricks they have pulled on me over the years. They use "time" as a weapon.

Hello John,

Years ago I requested my claim to be decided by the BVA, because I believed the Seattle VARO rating officers were the most corrupt in the nation.

Than my claim was sent to St Petersberg.

Why not give them a trial and a hanging?

They have murdered enough of us. It wouldn't bother me to see any of these rating specialists die for their crimes.

I feel the same way about child molesters as I do ratings specialists that lie in order to deny.

It may sound a little harsh to some, not to me.

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Wouldn't it be nice if legislation was written that provided for a cash payment to veterans each time a BVA remand was ignored or incompletely complied with? While we are at it what about a cash payment to a veteran every month that his/her claim has been pending for say over 180 days or 145?

We could fund this program from the executive bonus pool and COLA increments for the VARO's personnel budget. Maybe if it ment money out of their pockets and raises substantially below inflation they might find some motivation?

This would never work, VA would claim the program would cause highly skilled workers to leave for the more lucrative private sector. I don't know what we would do without those Highly Skilled Workers :blink: It could take 3, 5, maybe even 10 or more years to settle a claim without them, wait that is todays reality.

Sorry, I know sacarsm is almost never productive but hey it might provide 5 minutes of amusement.

Best regards,

Tyler

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I wish that I could locate who at the AMC is taking out my records.

To be at the Rater twiced, September 2006 and again September 2007 and each time a different important record is missing.

Back to the filing cabinet my file goes.

Ms. Dunlap is trying to get the Manager of Development to get it and work it.

I just don't think this time when it makes it to the rater, they can use this excuse.

I took every one of the important records to the Regional Office and had them date stamped and they mailed the originals to the AMC.

I, in turn took the copies and had the US Navy Recruiter fax them through for me.

I don't think they can loose date stamped records? Can they?

I finally with my hesitancy contacted Senator Warners' Office for assistance.

I just talked to his office and was told they would call the AMC and see if they could get my claims file out of that darn cabinet.

I am afraid that I share Allens opinion of these people, they are all a bunch of crooks. I am tired of the lies and deceit.

Always,

Josephine

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>I don't know what we would do without those Highly Skilled Workers

Those skilled workers must have gotten their training in prison. Sending them back to prison with the rest of the thieves should be our goal since they refuse to provide us with due process.

Josephine,

Your evidence is likely sitting in your folder like mine. If the BVA can remand my claim over and over back to the appeals center and the RO theives consistanly ignore the evidence in it, it's set up that way and it's not going to change. The BVA says in the remand that what they are doing is illegal and in violation of DVA laws. The RO level is so corrupt, 30 yrs of watching them lie tells me it will never change, neither will the senseless remands.

You may want to consider waiving review by the RO level and have the BVA decide it.

Due process is not part of the RO or DRO review. It's way to corrupt for that.

Anytime you talk to someone at the AMC, you will be lied to. Get used to it.

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>I don't know what we would do without those Highly Skilled Workers

Those skilled workers must have gotten their training in prison. Sending them back to prison with the rest of the thieves should be our goal since they refuse to provide us with due process.

Josephine,

Your evidence is likely sitting in your folder like mine. If the BVA can remand my claim over and over back to the appeals center and the RO theives consistanly ignore the evidence in it, it's set up that way and it's not going to change. The BVA says in the remand that what they are doing is illegal and in violation of DVA laws. The RO level is so corrupt, 30 yrs of watching them lie tells me it will never change, neither will the senseless remands.

You may want to consider waiving review by the RO level and have the BVA decide it.

Due process is not part of the RO or DRO review. It's way to corrupt for that.

Anytime you talk to someone at the AMC, you will be lied to. Get used to it.

Allen,

Let me see if I have this correct. I was at the BVA and remanded to the AMC.

I have been at the AMC now for 18 months. I placed a waiver against the R. O making any decisions.

Are you saying that I may have my claims file moved completely from the AMC and back to the BVA for a decision.

I can't believe a word the AMC is saying for you are correct they are all liars.

Always and Thanks,

Josephine

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My claim has been collecting dust at the AMC since it was remanded from the BVA in June 06.

As soon as it was remanded, I sent in the waiver.

When and if the AMC ever opens my file for review, they will see the waiver sitting on top and it will than be sent to the BVA.

My guess is it will take another two to three years for the BVA to decide it, once they recieve it.

That gives me "no" garanty the BVA will reconize the three IMO's from Dr Bash. But if the BVA denies the claim, my 30 year wait to have an attorney represent me will be over and my claim will fanally have its day in court.

If you have sent in a waiver for RO rating process to the AMC, nothing will be done to it until the BVA recieves the file. The waiver takes it out of the RO level review, so they can't process it. If they're telling you they're working on it, they are lying.

Allan

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My claim has been collecting dust at the AMC since it was remanded from the BVA in June 06.

As soon as it was remanded, I sent in the waiver.

When and if the AMC ever opens my file for review, they will see the waiver sitting on top and it will than be sent to the BVA.

My guess is it will take another two to three years for the BVA to decide it, once they recieve it.

That gives me "no" garanty the BVA will reconize the three IMO's from Dr Bash. But if the BVA denies the claim, my 30 year wait to have an attorney represent me will be over and my claim will fanally have its day in court.

If you have sent in a waiver for RO rating process to the AMC, nothing will be done to it until the BVA recieves the file. The waiver takes it out of the RO level review, so they can't process it. If they're telling you they're working on it, they are lying.

Allan

Allan,

I am sorry that I know so little about the ways of the VA.

When I received my Supplemental Statement of the Case by the Huntington Regional Office, I sent a waiver to the Regional Office that any new evidence that I sent in could not be decided by the Regional Office.

My claims file then went to the BVA December 2005. I advanced on the docket and my claims file was remanded to the AMC April 2006.

It has been at the AMC for 18 months now, twiced to the rater and each time my important imformation is missing.

I am now back in the filing cabinet, as Development sent me another VCAA notice.

Can I still have the BVA decide my claim?

Josephine

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I think the Cleveland Regional office is even worse than Florida. Altho 845 days is unthinkable, the Cleveland Regional Office uses delays as denials. My claim was started May 2002 and after 5 years 5 months, it still has not been decided. They are supposed to have a "Tiger team" deal with claims over 1000 days, but mine will soon be 2000 days. I am in the process of writing a "writ of Mandamus" asking the court to force them into a decision..they have lost or ignored at least 8 documents from my claim, that I can document! Others that they lost or threw away, I cant document.

Im sure they will get bonuses for their fast service to veterans.

The Cleveland regional Office is ranked dead last in compensation to Veterans, according to the Institute for Defense Analysis.

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I think the Cleveland Regional office is even worse than Florida. Altho 845 days is unthinkable, the Cleveland Regional Office uses delays as denials. My claim was started May 2002 and after 5 years 5 months, it still has not been decided. They are supposed to have a "Tiger team" deal with claims over 1000 days, but mine will soon be 2000 days. I am in the process of writing a "writ of Mandamus" asking the court to force them into a decision..they have lost or ignored at least 8 documents from my claim, that I can document! Others that they lost or threw away, I cant document.

Im sure they will get bonuses for their fast service to veterans.

The Cleveland regional Office is ranked dead last in compensation to Veterans, according to the Institute for Defense Analysis.

Chess,

As Allen has said this is down right criminal ! This is unheard of!

I am sure that each and every one of them have a ball at Christmas time, spending our money with their bonus.

I sure wish I knew how to write a Writ, but don't have enough sense at this point.

Good Luck on Yours!

Always,

Josephine

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Hello Paul,

you can wait until its actually under review.

Heres what happened to me. I submitted the IMO I received from Dr Bash concerning MS.

St Petersburg VARO ignored it existed, while they reviewed and denied the claim. The BVA caught them and made them review it again. The decision of this claim has be set aside since 2005 until the other two IMO's for my spine are recognized and all the other issues are decided on.

Dr Bash and the PVA has requested multiple secondary issues need to be awarded with it.

I guess it's a good idea to wait until it is actually under review, but they have many, many ways to stall it once it is in your folder.

All they have to say is "we have considered it, but choose to give it no weight, because we found this internal medicine Dr in New Jersey to provide us with an unfavorable IMO".

Then you will need to get yet another IMO to counter the VA whore.

The RO rating specialist doesn't have to have any good reason or basis to deny it. They can just make it up or rephrase what your doctor said until it makes no since. No one who gives a damn and is in a position to change it, is going to check your rating officers work. No one is even going to pin your decision to the one that actually cheated you either.

End the end, theres no one to blame but the Veteran for not filing a complete claim or explaining their issues clearly, not sending in the evidence, etc.

I really hope it works out better for you Paul. I wish this for all of us. But the facts tell me very few of us ever see and honest decision made regarding the evidence.

Since no one investigates these criminal acts and it's passed off to the nation as,"taken care of them Vets", it's looked at as they are working hard to process the claims backlog.

Experience tells me delaying the claim is the goal, and will be the goal as long as they are permitted to commit criminal acts in the claims process, without any repercussions.

Allan

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