Nsc Vs. Sc

[william n]

I'm a little confused(alot)..receiving NSC pension and have SC disabilities pending. I read that the rater should not consider NSC issues. can someone set me straight..Thanks, William n

[mountain tyme]

from the website.. http://www.co.bingham.id.us/Clerks/veterans.htm

"What do the terms "Service-Connected" and "Non-Service Connected" mean?

These terms define disability types in the VA system. Service connected means that the veteran is disabled due to injury or illness that was incurred in or aggravated by military service. Non-service connected means that the veteran is disabled due to injury or illness not related to military service.

What is the difference between "Compensation" and "Pension" in the VA system?

Compensation is paid to a veteran with service-connected disabilities. Pension is paid to a war-time veteran who is permanently and totally disabled from non-service connected disabilities and who has very low income.

How do I know if I am eligible for "Compensation"?

First, you need to establish with the VA that you are disabled because of your of active military service. Service connection for a disability may be established in the following ways:

DIRECT – Service medical records show that the disabling condition was diagnosed during military service and the condition has continued to affect the veteran.

AGGRAVATION – Evidence demonstrates that the disabling condition which existed prior to service was aggravated beyond normal progression during military service.

PRESUMPTIVE – Evidence demonstrates that the disability is one predetermined by the VA to be presumed for service connection by time, place and type of service.

SECONDARY – Evidence demonstrates that the disability developed as a result of, or residual of, another service connected disability.

INJURY AS A RESULT OF VA MEDICAL TREATMENT – This is a disability that the veteran incurred, had aggravated or died from because of medical treatment at a VA Facility.

How do I know if I am eligible for "Pension"?

The eligibility criteria for VA Pension are:

The veteran had at least 90 days of active service with at least one day during a recognized war-time period.

The veteran is shown by medical evidence to be permanently and totally disabled.

The veteran has very low annual income for his/her household.

Following found in the www.va.gov website

Department of Veterans Affairs

Pension

What Is VA Pension?

Pension is a benefit paid to wartime veterans with limited income, and who are permanently and totally disabled or age 65 or older.

Who Is Eligible?

You may be eligible if:

• you were discharged from service under other than dishonorable conditions, AND

• you served 90 days or more of active duty with at least 1 day during a period of war time*, AND

• your countable family income is below a yearly limit set by law, AND

• you are permanently and totally disabled, OR

• you are age 65 or older.

*Note: Anyone who enlists after September 7, 1980, generally must have served at least 24 months or the full period for which called or ordered to active duty. Service from August 2, 1990 to present is considered to be a period of war (Gulf War) in addition to other periods of war such as World War II, Korea, and Vietnam.

FAMILY INCOME LIMITS (EFFECTIVE DECEMBER 1, 2005)

If you are a... yearly income must be less then

Veteran with no dependents $10,579

Veteran with a spouse or a child $13,855

(Veterans with additional children: add $1,806 to the limit for EACH child)

Housebound veteran with no dependents $12,929

Housebound veteran with one dependent $16,205

Veteran who needs aid and attendance and has no dependents $17,651

Veteran who needs aid and attendance and has one dependent $20,924

Note: Some income is not counted toward the yearly limit (for example, welfare benefits, some wages earned by dependent children, and Supplemental Security Income.)

How Much Does VA Pay?

VA pays you the difference between your countable family income and the yearly income limit that describes your situation (see chart above). This difference is generally paid in 12 equal monthly payments rounded down to the nearest dollar. Call the toll-free number below for details.

How Can You Apply?

You can apply by filling out VA Form 21-526, Veteran's Application for Compensation and/or Pension. If available, attach copies of dependency records (marriage & children's birth certificates) and current medical evidence (doctor & hospital reports). You can also apply online through our web site at http://vabenefits.vba.va.gov/vonapp.

Related Benefits

Vocational Rehabilitation Program

Medical Care

hope it helps

MT

[Stretch]

The way that it was explained to me was that a 21-526 was for NSC pension, and that 21-527 was for pension awaiting VA SC decision.

VA Form 21-526

http://www.hadit.com/forums/index.php?act=...post&id=725

VA Form 21-527

http://www.hadit.com/forums/index.php?act=...post&id=724

Edited May 21, 2008 by Stretch

[william n]

from the website.. http://www.co.bingham.id.us/Clerks/veterans.htm

"What do the terms "Service-Connected" and "Non-Service Connected" mean?

These terms define disability types in the VA system. Service connected means that the veteran is disabled due to injury or illness that was incurred in or aggravated by military service. Non-service connected means that the veteran is disabled due to injury or illness not related to military service.

What is the difference between "Compensation" and "Pension" in the VA system?

Compensation is paid to a veteran with service-connected disabilities. Pension is paid to a war-time veteran who is permanently and totally disabled from non-service connected disabilities and who has very low income.

How do I know if I am eligible for "Compensation"?

First, you need to establish with the VA that you are disabled because of your of active military service. Service connection for a disability may be established in the following ways:

DIRECT – Service medical records show that the disabling condition was diagnosed during military service and the condition has continued to affect the veteran.

AGGRAVATION – Evidence demonstrates that the disabling condition which existed prior to service was aggravated beyond normal progression during military service.

PRESUMPTIVE – Evidence demonstrates that the disability is one predetermined by the VA to be presumed for service connection by time, place and type of service.

SECONDARY – Evidence demonstrates that the disability developed as a result of, or residual of, another service connected disability.

INJURY AS A RESULT OF VA MEDICAL TREATMENT – This is a disability that the veteran incurred, had aggravated or died from because of medical treatment at a VA Facility.

How do I know if I am eligible for "Pension"?

The eligibility criteria for VA Pension are:

The veteran had at least 90 days of active service with at least one day during a recognized war-time period.

The veteran is shown by medical evidence to be permanently and totally disabled.

The veteran has very low annual income for his/her household.

Following found in the www.va.gov website

Department of Veterans Affairs

Pension

What Is VA Pension?

Pension is a benefit paid to wartime veterans with limited income, and who are permanently and totally disabled or age 65 or older.

Who Is Eligible?

You may be eligible if:

• you were discharged from service under other than dishonorable conditions, AND

• you served 90 days or more of active duty with at least 1 day during a period of war time*, AND

• your countable family income is below a yearly limit set by law, AND

• you are permanently and totally disabled, OR

• you are age 65 or older.

*Note: Anyone who enlists after September 7, 1980, generally must have served at least 24 months or the full period for which called or ordered to active duty. Service from August 2, 1990 to present is considered to be a period of war (Gulf War) in addition to other periods of war such as World War II, Korea, and Vietnam.

FAMILY INCOME LIMITS (EFFECTIVE DECEMBER 1, 2005)

If you are a... yearly income must be less then

Veteran with no dependents $10,579

Veteran with a spouse or a child $13,855

(Veterans with additional children: add $1,806 to the limit for EACH child)

Housebound veteran with no dependents $12,929

Housebound veteran with one dependent $16,205

Veteran who needs aid and attendance and has no dependents $17,651

Veteran who needs aid and attendance and has one dependent $20,924

Note: Some income is not counted toward the yearly limit (for example, welfare benefits, some wages earned by dependent children, and Supplemental Security Income.)

How Much Does VA Pay?

VA pays you the difference between your countable family income and the yearly income limit that describes your situation (see chart above). This difference is generally paid in 12 equal monthly payments rounded down to the nearest dollar. Call the toll-free number below for details.

How Can You Apply?

You can apply by filling out VA Form 21-526, Veteran's Application for Compensation and/or Pension. If available, attach copies of dependency records (marriage & children's birth certificates) and current medical evidence (doctor & hospital reports). You can also apply online through our web site at http://vabenefits.vba.va.gov/vonapp.

Related Benefits

Vocational Rehabilitation Program

Medical Care

hope it helps

MT

MT thank you for taking the time out..it is very clear as to who is eligible. My question is ..will the rater consider the NSC disabilties once i SC them or start anew. Ive read trhat the rater is not too look at the NSC claim at all while determinig SC for the same DX's..txs, William n

[Stretch]

Sorry, I corrected my last post. It was worded wrong. The post explains your question now. If you file a 21-526, expect trouble if you are expecting SC conditions.

[william n]

my mistake Stretch...will they consider that my knees are connected to my back?? william n

[mountain tyme]

williamn wrote: "My question is ..will the rater consider the NSC disabilties once i SC them or start anew. Ive read trhat the rater is not too look at the NSC claim at all while determinig SC for the same DX's..txs, William n"

It is true that the VA rater will not take into consideration a condition that non- s/c at the time he is rating a s/c claim.

so what we have here is that you were granted a nsc pension. since receiving your nsc pension you have been able to file a claim with the VA on a disablitiy that you can now show incurred during active duty service...ok...once the said disability is granted s/c the VA will then determine when the Effective date for that condition only...if you can not link the other conditions that you receive a pension for the VA will not take them into consideration for compensation nor will the VA take them into consideration if you are applying for UI...now lets say that you are granted s/c if that condition alone is rated at 60% or above you can then file for UI...in some cases where that single condition does not rate high enough (60%) if you can prove through medical documentation that due to that said s/c disability you can no longer work due to the impact of your condition then the VA can send it to be considered under a VA schedualer...to grant TDUI...

I hope I answered your question...I sometimes have a hard time expressing what I am trying to say

MT