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Wow that is news to me. When I was at my DRO Hearing last March the first thing I was told by DRO all that he could consider was the claim that had already been decided and that is in my transcript.

He was also the same guy who made the original decision and said in writing that he did not have to consider agoraphobia when I was granted 100% for Panic Disorder for Housebound Benefit.

I guess that they can lie to your face at least I can ask for the transcript and raise hell about it.

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If you received a Copy and Paste DRO decision or the DRO ignored your main evidence- a DRO hearing or informal conference is one more way of highlighting that evidence and getting it into the record.

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Pete

I think I would get a lawyer for your CUE. It seems to me that they have already violated the regs by using the same guy who rated your SMC to do your DRO. This guy is lying about most of what he is telling you. He is trying to CYA at your epense. He probably resents you questioning his decision. These CUE's seem to hinge on the phrasing of your claim. I think from reading your CUE that you have a good one, but this guys is saying he did consider you for SMC for HB, but we know that is a lie. You want the claim written up in the form of a brief by a lawyer who is aware of all the legal pitfalls and traps the VA has set out for you. Does your NOD put you in the picture to be able to hire lawyer for this? Your CUE seems simple that you should have been considered for HB when you got 100% schedular. However, I can see the VA using the kitchen sink to try and beat it. This is where the lawyer might come in handy. 80% of something is better than 100% of nothing. Most lawyers are pretty tenacious where fees come into play.

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He was also the same guy who made the original decision and said in writing that he did not have to consider agoraphobia when I was granted 100% for Panic Disorder for Housebound Benefit.

I may not be reading this right, and I may be completely wrong, but I thought I read that a DRO or the process is that the decision that was made by a VARO rater/adjudicator, when seen by a DRO is supposed to be seen by a different person, by different eyes, so that if their were problems with the deciscion, and so you can get evidence written directly into the record and such.

Anyway, I just thought the same person who first decided your claim, has to be a different person when your are granted a DRO.

Rockhound Rider :rolleyes:

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As always thanks John I would not have the HB benefit if not for you.

Rock that is the gist of it. Thanks for your reply

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I requested a personal hearing witha DRO in Mar07 as they deamed me dead and tried to sever my 30% when I asked for an increase. They advised me it would take 30 days for appointment....took over 3 months

They informed me it would be another DRO who would be in the hearing, as they do not se anyone who previously deceided/rated the case...

They advised me I could bring in any additional information and I did and they made copies of it all as I made some copies for them and they wanted it all, as this was new evidence to validate my case...

They taped it and asked if I wanted a copy of the transcript which I said I did...

Told me I would hear back within 90 days...took almost 6 mths...

I finally got my transcript after 4 requests last month (june), and some of the information I spoke of on the tape is not included...they did award 50% from 30% ( the info not on the tape referred to my faulty c&p exam and examiner and how she got the boot from the hosp for doing untruthful exams as she was an incompetent nurse pract. and not a doctor plus I also told of another va employee who wrote down assumptions in my file and did not relate to the facts and that is why they wanted to sever and proved it as I had the copies from the va...)

So as I said before next time I will tape it too and I won't ask just tape it.

Good luck and don't let them jack you around anymore than they do. Just tell the truth until they finally see it is so.

:rolleyes::lol:

http://www.warms.vba.va.gov/M21_1MR.html

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So, what you are saying is that the VA did not provide a true and complete transcript. That, I believe might be actionable if failure to provide the complete transcript does harm in any way to you or your claims. At the minimum, a complaint to the VA OIG or other appropriate review & compliance office might be appropriate. Perhaps there is another more effective way to use this, but I don't know what it might be.

I'm a firm believer in when they screw up, hold thier feet to the fire.

On the other hand, if the VA has awarded you (in your opinion) a fair settlement, why rock the boat.

"I finally got my transcript after 4 requests last month (june), and some of the information I spoke of on the tape is not included...they did award 50% from 30% ( the info not on the tape referred to my faulty c&p exam and examiner and how she got the boot from the hosp for doing untruthful exams as she was an incompetent nurse pract. and not a doctor plus I also told of another va employee who wrote down assumptions in my file and did not relate to the facts and that is why they wanted to sever and proved it as I had the copies from the va...)"

I requested a personal hearing witha DRO in Mar07 as they deamed me dead and tried to sever my 30% when I asked for an increase. They advised me it would take 30 days for appointment....took over 3 months

They informed me it would be another DRO who would be in the hearing, as they do not se anyone who previously deceided/rated the case...

They advised me I could bring in any additional information and I did and they made copies of it all as I made some copies for them and they wanted it all, as this was new evidence to validate my case...

They taped it and asked if I wanted a copy of the transcript which I said I did...

Told me I would hear back within 90 days...took almost 6 mths...

I finally got my transcript after 4 requests last month (june), and some of the information I spoke of on the tape is not included...they did award 50% from 30% ( the info not on the tape referred to my faulty c&p exam and examiner and how she got the boot from the hosp for doing untruthful exams as she was an incompetent nurse pract. and not a doctor plus I also told of another va employee who wrote down assumptions in my file and did not relate to the facts and that is why they wanted to sever and proved it as I had the copies from the va...)

So as I said before next time I will tape it too and I won't ask just tape it.

Good luck and don't let them jack you around anymore than they do. Just tell the truth until they finally see it is so.

:rolleyes::lol:

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Pete...John is correct. There is a reg that states the same person who decided your original claim cannot act as a DRO in your appeal. I can look around and dig it up if you need, but I am certain that I read that.

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Chuck75,

in your post, you stated:

"I'm a firm believer in when they screw up, hold thier feet to the fire.

On the other hand, if the VA has awarded you (in your opinion) a fair settlement, why rock the boat."

I don't believe it to be rocking the boat to get your fair, earned rating from the VA if they intentionally excluded evidence that may result in a higher rating.

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Chuck75 and MRRRRS

I put i for BVA with the claim they denied 2x. The info left out was the truth about the faulty lying C&P exam and examier and the fact that she no longer does the exams...all info about my back claim...the award was for the other claim and also when I told them on tape the raters name and her ASSUMPTIONS not facts that is not on the transcript either...

So I went BVA as I bet they probably lost the tape as it took months and months to transcribe...

One fish cannot compete with a school of sharks...but the fish will not give up, just change tatics! :rolleyes:

Chuck75,

in your post, you stated:

"I'm a firm believer in when they screw up, hold thier feet to the fire.

On the other hand, if the VA has awarded you (in your opinion) a fair settlement, why rock the boat."

I don't believe it to be rocking the boat to get your fair, earned rating from the VA if they intentionally excluded evidence that may result in a higher rating.

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Sorry MRRRR5 I typed your handle incorrectly my bag :lol:

Chuck75 and MRRRRS

I put i for BVA with the claim they denied 2x. The info left out was the truth about the faulty lying C&P exam and examier and the fact that she no longer does the exams...all info about my back claim...the award was for the other claim and also when I told them on tape the raters name and her ASSUMPTIONS not facts that is not on the transcript either...

So I went BVA as I bet they probably lost the tape as it took months and months to transcribe...

One fish cannot compete with a school of sharks...but the fish will not give up, just change tatics! :rolleyes:

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Pete

you should have been considered for HB when you got 100% schedular.

The VA did me the same way. I was increased from 90% IU to 100% in Dec 07... with an effective date of Nov 07... but the request for the increase was dated Jun 2005... and I requested housebound Feb 07 and finally was awarded May 08 with effective date Nov 07... I should have been awarded the housebound at the same time I was awarded the 100% rating.... now I have a nod in for eariler effective dates, and a NOD for A&A because the va even said I qualified for A&A then awarded me Housebound anyway... (go figure)

Some people at the va must think all veterans are stupid.. it is ironic that a good majority of my claims were awarded on de novo review when will the va get it together and do their job right the first time...

and as to Pete's DRO.... it should have been decided by new eyes..... hell the va doesn't even follow the rules and then wonder why veterans get angry.

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"I'm a firm believer in when they screw up, hold thier feet to the fire."

Chuck is right-

last night a lawyer from NVLSP called me regarding a Nehmer question I had- this was a lawyer who I had talked with in the past and we discussed many things besides my Nehmer letter.

He was appalled at what happened to my claim at the DRO conference and said I took the right steps to get this whole situation at the front-

I have sent the VSM some serious questions to answer and also he was very supportive that I filed the OGC complaint against my reps-

Another NVLSP lawyer last-Ron ABrams- also supported the way I got a fast BVA remand-although my claim has been on remand for almost 2 years- still it could have still been at the BVA by now- only to be remanded-

I took the bull by the horns on the errors that occurred with my claim- but still that takes time for results but it is better to challenge them then to sit around and wait for what might be one more VA screw up-

I can document I have done all I could do to get my evidence considered.And getting it considered is mandated by the regs in 38 CFR as I reminded the VA too.

This lawyer agreed with my premise on Mariano and that I cited this case to the VA-

still- even if they knock down my IMOs with some VA crap- I could get another IMO- but Mariano suggests that this should not occur.He agreed I was at least within Relative Equipoise,almost 4 years ago, whch is enough for an award.

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One of the primary purposes of a DRO hearing is to present new arguments, present witness's and provide new evidence that has been collected since your original claim.

The problem with most hearings is that veterans will simply rehash the same arguments that they have already presented in their original NOD. At this point it is simply a waste of time for the veteran and the DRO.

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