Dental Implants

[trez]

im on iu va keeps giving me a hassle on implants

va says well we gota wait and then its this and they give me some other bs whats the hassle man?

I dont think they want to do the procedure

do they hurt whats the procedure like??

[john999]

Trez

So the VA just lied about the bone loss thing and it was just a matter of them trying to save a buck at your expense. What a surprise? I am going to start the implant process on a tooth next week. I had one done before. It is one of those anchor teeth so I want to do it.

John

[trez]

Trez

So the VA just lied about the bone loss thing and it was just a matter of them trying to save a buck at your expense. What a surprise? I am going to start the implant process on a tooth next week. I had one done before. It is one of those anchor teeth so I want to do it.

John

just because their is bone loss does not mean you are out of the picture.

my extracted teeth 2 on the upper right were near my nasal passages thats not good

va says sorry your not a good candidate. i said okay i want a copy of the medical notes.

well what do you want that for i just want it for my records they va dentist never gave it to me

finally i went to the records department because a person e mailed me from had it and told me to go to the records dept in the

hospital i got them

i got the dental notes brought them to an implant specialist the best guy in the area, he said lets take some x rays and then ill make a decision and i will give you a written decision i said okay fine

they first took a panagram scans every tooth in your mouth then they took more specialized x rays which plot out your jaw bone

then they took more x rays to check something called bone density

i left the specialist office went had coffe came back for a late afternoon consult

sat down the dentist implant specialist told me yes i had bone and bone loss near my nasal passages in my upper right front

however we have a procedure called bone augmentation where we push the nasal passages away from the bone.

on the left side of your mouth the one tooth thats missing the spacing is so small we cant put a regular implant in their

we have a procedure called a micro implant all it is is just a smaller version of a regular implant but much smaller.

so you are a good candidate for implants. WELL THE VA SAID NO. THE DENTIST TOLD ME IM TELLING YOU ARE.

HE FURTHER TOLD ME HE DENIED TWO OTHER PATIENTS THAT MORNING.

i got the written report FROM THIS IMPLANT SPECIALIST gave it to my lawyer he sent a request in TO THE VA HOSPITAL with my award letter 100% RATING AND THE HOSPITAL SENT ME THE PRE APPROVAL SLIP FOR OUT PATIENT DENTAL

THE VA WILL DO IMPLANTS IF THEY HAVE A DENTAL OFFICE BUT UNDERSTAND THIS LIKE A DISABILITY CLAIM THEY WILL TRY TO FIND AN EXCUSE NOT TO DO THE IMPLANTS WHAT THEY WILL DO IS JUST DRAG THEIR FEET A MAKE A 6 MONTH LATER

APPT FOR YOU TO BE EVALUATED BY THEIR DENTIST. WELL THEIR YA GO 6 MONTHS LATER AND YOUR STILL DEALING WITH THEM.

IN MY SITUATION I LOCATED A VA HOSPITAL THAT DOES NOT HAVE A DENTAL CLINIC RATHER THEY SEND THEIR PATIENTS TO A DENTIST THAT THE VETERAN DECIDES TO GO TO. SO THATS WHAT I DID

THEY COVERED THE COST OF THE FIRST CONSULT AND NOW THEY ARE PAYING FOR THE REST OF THE WORK.

I LEARNED HOW TO BE PRO ACTIVE FROM OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS WEB SITE IN MY EARLY POSTS YOU CAN SEE I WAS TRYING

TO GET HELP AND BY READING THE POSTS HERE ON HAD IT I CAME UP WITH A GAME PLAN PLUS SOME PEOPLE E MAILED ME

SOME AWSOME ADIVCE AND WELL HERE I AM GETTING MY IMPLANTS

THEIR ARE TWO DIFFERENT FORM S THE VA WILL GIVE YOU ONE IS A VOUCHER AND THE OTHER IS A DENTAL VA FORM CLAIM FORM FOR THE DENTIST.

LIKE I SAID ITS FEDERAL YOU CAN GO TO ANY VA HOSPITAL FOR SERVICE FIND ONE THAT DOES NOT HAVE A DENTAL CLINIC LIKE A RURAL VA OUTPATIENT CLINIC GO IN AND FILE FOR IMPLANTS THEIR AND THEN CHOOSE A PRIVATE IMPLANT

SPECIALIST

THEN THEY WILL MAKE A DETERMINATION I HAVE A FRIEND WHO HAD TO FIGHT WITH VA ABOUT IMPLANTS BECAUSE THE VA

SAID WELL OUR DENTIST DIS AGREES WITH YOUR DENTIST THEN YOUR INTO A FIGHT SO I JUST USED MY LAWYER TO WRITE

THEM A LETTER BACK AND INFORM VA UNDER THEIR DENTAL BENEFIT PLAN I AM 100% DISABLED AND THEIR FORE ENTITLED

TO IMPLANTS FURTHER MY LAWYER NOTED AND CITED THE IMPLANT SPECIALIST LETTER TO ME SAYING YES I AM A GOOD

CANDIDATE FOR IMPLANTS..

IF YOU CHOOSE TO DIS APPROVE THIS VETERANS APPLICATION FOR DENTAL IMPLANTS I WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH LEGAL ACTION OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL REALM OF VA PROCEEDINGS.

WEEK LATER MY VOUCHER AND APPROVAL LETTER CAME IN THE MAIL AND THEY ARE PAYING FOR THE MILEAGE TO.

EACH VA HOSPITAL HAS A DIFFERENT STORY SONG AND DANCE ON THIS ISSUE YOU JUST HAVE TO BE PERSISTENT AND

PRO ACTIVE ACTIVE WITH THEM. I HAVE ONE MORE ISSUE WITH THE VA AND AFTER THATS RESOLVED I'M DONE WITH THEM

FINALLY ONCE AND FOR ALL AMEN IM LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT DAY VERY VERY SOON

I HOPE THIS WORKS FOR YOU I USE ALL PRIVATE DOCTORS AND DENTISTS THROUGH FEE BASIS I LIVE IN A VERY RURAL PART OF AMERICA I LIKE TO BE ALONE PEACE AND QUIET DUE TO HEADACHES

VET FRIEND OF MINE WENT TO EURPOE AND HIS IMPLANTS DONE IN EUROPE AND BILLED VA THROUGH COLORADO VA VETERANS LIVING OVER SEAS DEPT??? I GOT A LETTER FROM HIM EVERY NOW AND THEN HOW HE PULLED THAT OFF I HAVE NO IDEA.

I HOPE THINGS WORK OUT FOR YOU AND LISTEN LIKE I SAID JUST BECAUSE A PERSON HAS BONE LOSS DOES NOT MEAN THEY

CANT GET IMPLANTS ONLY A SPECIALIST CAN DECIDE THAT THEIR ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROCEDURES THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH BONE LOSS AND NASAL PASSAGE ISSUES FOR IMPLANTS NASAL PASSAGES THEY DO A PROCEDURE CALLED BONE AUGMENTATION THATS WHAT THEY DID TO ME THEY JUST AUGMENT THE BONE FROM NASAL PASSAGES

HOPE THINGS WORK OUT FOR YOU SORRY FOR THE LONG POST BUT WANTED TO PASS ON TO YOU WHAT HAPPENED TO ME IN MY SITUATION 1 OTHER THING WWW.WATCHDOG IS REALY GOOD THE GUYS NAME IS JIM STRICKLAND

I GUESS IF YOUR A VETERAN AND LIVE OUTSIDE USA YOU COULD FILL OUT A FORM AND SEND IT TO VA COLORADO BUT DONT QUOTE ME ON THAT THATS WHAT MY VET FRIEND DID HE LIVES IN UK AND THE UK IMPLANT DOCTOR BILLED USA VA.

ONE FINAL THING I CAN RECOMMEND I DONT USE THE DAV OR ANY SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS AT ALL PERIOD! I HAVE A PRIVATE LAWYER NOW I AVOID THE SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS VFW ALL THOSE OTHER ONES LIKE A HOT POTATO

THE VFW WOULDN'T HELPE ANY WAY THEIR CLOSE KNIT GROUP YOU HAVE BE A VET OF A FOREIGN WAR BEFORE THEY HELP

THEY LOSE A LOT OF CLAIMS LIKE THE DAV AGAINST THE VA AS WELL

BUT YOU MIGHT NOT SEE IT MY WAY I ALSO USE ALL PRIVATE MEDICAL AND DENTAL SERVICES AND JUST HAVE FEE BASIS PAY

BECAUSE I LIVE IN AN AREA THATS VERY DESOLATE EXTREMELY EXTREMLY COLD AND THEIR ARE NO NEIGHBORS FOR AT LEAST

2 DAY DRIVE

GOOD LUCK WISH YOU WELL HOPE THINGS WORK OUT SORRY FOR THE LONG POST BUT I WANTGED TO GIV AS MUCH INFO AS I

COULD ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO ME TAKE CARE

[Rockhound]

Way off topic and a bit wierd and maybe funny to some. I saw this post about emplants and right away my paranoid mind was expecting some Veteran to say he caught the VA implanting bugs in his teeth so they could gather information to use against him to take his benefits away.

I'm slowly loosing all my teeth and could use a bridge or implants at the point, it's getting hard to chew certain foods, so I try to avoid them when I can. Before long, all my food groups will only contain soft items, since I won't be able to chew the harder stuff.

If I ever go to a dentist, I will probably go down to my local spy shop and buy a fiber optic lens attachment for my video camera and examine the work close up afterwards, just to assure myself that they didn't actually install such a listening device.

Told you it was wierd and off subject, but I wouldn't put it past the VA to try and do something like this to some troublesome Veteran.

Rockhound Rider :D

[trez]

just because their is bone loss does not mean you are out of the picture.

my extracted teeth 2 on the upper right were near my nasal passages thats not good

va says sorry your not a good candidate. i said okay i want a copy of the medical notes.

well what do you want that for i just want it for my records they va dentist never gave it to me

finally i went to the records department because a person e mailed me from had it and told me to go to the records dept in the

hospital i got them

i got the dental notes brought them to an implant specialist the best guy in the area, he said lets take some x rays and then ill make a decision and i will give you a written decision i said okay fine

they first took a panagram scans every tooth in your mouth then they took more specialized x rays which plot out your jaw bone

then they took more x rays to check something called bone density

i left the specialist office went had coffe came back for a late afternoon consult

sat down the dentist implant specialist told me yes i had bone and bone loss near my nasal passages in my upper right front

however we have a procedure called bone augmentation where we push the nasal passages away from the bone.

on the left side of your mouth the one tooth thats missing the spacing is so small we cant put a regular implant in their

we have a procedure called a micro implant all it is is just a smaller version of a regular implant but much smaller.

so you are a good candidate for implants. WELL THE VA SAID NO. THE DENTIST TOLD ME IM TELLING YOU ARE.

HE FURTHER TOLD ME HE DENIED TWO OTHER PATIENTS THAT MORNING.

i got the written report FROM THIS IMPLANT SPECIALIST gave it to my lawyer he sent a request in TO THE VA HOSPITAL with my award letter 100% RATING AND THE HOSPITAL SENT ME THE PRE APPROVAL SLIP FOR OUT PATIENT DENTAL

THE VA WILL DO IMPLANTS IF THEY HAVE A DENTAL OFFICE BUT UNDERSTAND THIS LIKE A DISABILITY CLAIM THEY WILL TRY TO FIND AN EXCUSE NOT TO DO THE IMPLANTS WHAT THEY WILL DO IS JUST DRAG THEIR FEET A MAKE A 6 MONTH LATER

APPT FOR YOU TO BE EVALUATED BY THEIR DENTIST. WELL THEIR YA GO 6 MONTHS LATER AND YOUR STILL DEALING WITH THEM.

IN MY SITUATION I LOCATED A VA HOSPITAL THAT DOES NOT HAVE A DENTAL CLINIC RATHER THEY SEND THEIR PATIENTS TO A DENTIST THAT THE VETERAN DECIDES TO GO TO. SO THATS WHAT I DID

THEY COVERED THE COST OF THE FIRST CONSULT AND NOW THEY ARE PAYING FOR THE REST OF THE WORK.

I LEARNED HOW TO BE PRO ACTIVE FROM OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS WEB SITE IN MY EARLY POSTS YOU CAN SEE I WAS TRYING

TO GET HELP AND BY READING THE POSTS HERE ON HAD IT I CAME UP WITH A GAME PLAN PLUS SOME PEOPLE E MAILED ME

SOME AWSOME ADIVCE AND WELL HERE I AM GETTING MY IMPLANTS

THEIR ARE TWO DIFFERENT FORM S THE VA WILL GIVE YOU ONE IS A VOUCHER AND THE OTHER IS A DENTAL VA FORM CLAIM FORM FOR THE DENTIST.

LIKE I SAID ITS FEDERAL YOU CAN GO TO ANY VA HOSPITAL FOR SERVICE FIND ONE THAT DOES NOT HAVE A DENTAL CLINIC LIKE A RURAL VA OUTPATIENT CLINIC GO IN AND FILE FOR IMPLANTS THEIR AND THEN CHOOSE A PRIVATE IMPLANT

SPECIALIST

THEN THEY WILL MAKE A DETERMINATION I HAVE A FRIEND WHO HAD TO FIGHT WITH VA ABOUT IMPLANTS BECAUSE THE VA

SAID WELL OUR DENTIST DIS AGREES WITH YOUR DENTIST THEN YOUR INTO A FIGHT SO I JUST USED MY LAWYER TO WRITE

THEM A LETTER BACK AND INFORM VA UNDER THEIR DENTAL BENEFIT PLAN I AM 100% DISABLED AND THEIR FORE ENTITLED

TO IMPLANTS FURTHER MY LAWYER NOTED AND CITED THE IMPLANT SPECIALIST LETTER TO ME SAYING YES I AM A GOOD

CANDIDATE FOR IMPLANTS..

IF YOU CHOOSE TO DIS APPROVE THIS VETERANS APPLICATION FOR DENTAL IMPLANTS I WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH LEGAL ACTION OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL REALM OF VA PROCEEDINGS.

WEEK LATER MY VOUCHER AND APPROVAL LETTER CAME IN THE MAIL AND THEY ARE PAYING FOR THE MILEAGE TO.

EACH VA HOSPITAL HAS A DIFFERENT STORY SONG AND DANCE ON THIS ISSUE YOU JUST HAVE TO BE PERSISTENT AND

PRO ACTIVE ACTIVE WITH THEM. I HAVE ONE MORE ISSUE WITH THE VA AND AFTER THATS RESOLVED I'M DONE WITH THEM

FINALLY ONCE AND FOR ALL AMEN IM LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT DAY VERY VERY SOON

I HOPE THIS WORKS FOR YOU I USE ALL PRIVATE DOCTORS AND DENTISTS THROUGH FEE BASIS I LIVE IN A VERY RURAL PART OF AMERICA I LIKE TO BE ALONE PEACE AND QUIET DUE TO HEADACHES

VET FRIEND OF MINE WENT TO EURPOE AND HIS IMPLANTS DONE IN EUROPE AND BILLED VA THROUGH COLORADO VA VETERANS LIVING OVER SEAS DEPT??? I GOT A LETTER FROM HIM EVERY NOW AND THEN HOW HE PULLED THAT OFF I HAVE NO IDEA.

I HOPE THINGS WORK OUT FOR YOU AND LISTEN LIKE I SAID JUST BECAUSE A PERSON HAS BONE LOSS DOES NOT MEAN THEY

CANT GET IMPLANTS ONLY A SPECIALIST CAN DECIDE THAT THEIR ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROCEDURES THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH BONE LOSS AND NASAL PASSAGE ISSUES FOR IMPLANTS NASAL PASSAGES THEY DO A PROCEDURE CALLED BONE AUGMENTATION THATS WHAT THEY DID TO ME THEY JUST AUGMENT THE BONE FROM NASAL PASSAGES

HOPE THINGS WORK OUT FOR YOU SORRY FOR THE LONG POST BUT WANTED TO PASS ON TO YOU WHAT HAPPENED TO ME IN MY SITUATION 1 OTHER THING WWW.WATCHDOG IS REALY GOOD THE GUYS NAME IS JIM STRICKLAND

I GUESS IF YOUR A VETERAN AND LIVE OUTSIDE USA YOU COULD FILL OUT A FORM AND SEND IT TO VA COLORADO BUT DONT QUOTE ME ON THAT THATS WHAT MY VET FRIEND DID HE LIVES IN UK AND THE UK IMPLANT DOCTOR BILLED USA VA.

ONE FINAL THING I CAN RECOMMEND I DONT USE THE DAV OR ANY SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS AT ALL PERIOD! I HAVE A PRIVATE LAWYER NOW I AVOID THE SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS VFW ALL THOSE OTHER ONES LIKE A HOT POTATO

THE VFW WOULDN'T HELPE ANY WAY THEIR CLOSE KNIT GROUP YOU HAVE BE A VET OF A FOREIGN WAR BEFORE THEY HELP

THEY LOSE A LOT OF CLAIMS LIKE THE DAV AGAINST THE VA AS WELL

BUT YOU MIGHT NOT SEE IT MY WAY I ALSO USE ALL PRIVATE MEDICAL AND DENTAL SERVICES AND JUST HAVE FEE BASIS PAY

BECAUSE I LIVE IN AN AREA THATS VERY DESOLATE EXTREMELY EXTREMLY COLD AND THEIR ARE NO NEIGHBORS FOR AT LEAST

2 DAY DRIVE

GOOD LUCK WISH YOU WELL HOPE THINGS WORK OUT SORRY FOR THE LONG POST BUT I WANTGED TO GIV AS MUCH INFO AS I

COULD ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO ME TAKE CARE

ONE FINAL THING A VIET NAM VET E MAILED LAST WEEK I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET HOLD OF HIM AGAIN HE TOLD ME SOMETHING CALLED TRI CARE MEDICAL PLAN DO'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT BUT HE SAID HES TRYING TO GET ON THIS PLAN CALLED TRI CARE DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS THOUGH

[trez]

YEAH ON DENTAL IMPLANTS MY PRIVATE DENTIST SAID TO ME IM GOOD CANDIDATE FOR IMPLANTS

VA NATURALLY SAID NO GAVE A BUNCH OF RIDICULOUS NON MEDICAL EXCUSES SAID I HAD BONE LOSS

MY PRIVATE DENTIST SAID THATS WHAT THEY ALL SAY HE TOLD ME THEY HAVE A PROCEDURE TO COMPENSATE FOR BONE LOSS WHEN YOU REMOVE TEETH YOUR GOING TO HAVE BONE LOSS NO MATTER WHAT WHY? BECUZ WHEN THEY EXTRACT A TOOTH YES SOME BONE LOSS OCCURS THEIRS NOTHING THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT THATS WHAT HE TOLD ME.

SO I WENT AND FILED MY IMPLANTS WITH OUT PATIENT THE IMPLANT DOCTOR TOLD ME WHAT WE DO IF THEIR IS BONE LOSS IS A PROCESS CALLED BONE AUGMENTATION SO NOW MY IMPLANTS WILL BE BILLED TO VA WHICH THEY HAVE AGREED TO PAY 2 IMPLANTS PLUS ONE MICRO IMPLANT $3 500 X 3 = 10,500 PLUS ANESTHESIA IF I NEED BUT TRUST ME IT IS VERY PAINFUL AND YES IT HURTS ME MICRO IMPLANT IS A SPECIAL NEW PROCEDURE WHERE THE SPAING BETWEEN TEETH IS VERY SMALL SO THEY DID WHAT THEY CALL A MICRO IMPLANT YEAH IT HURTS BUT THEY GIVE YOU A LOT OF DRUGS TO TAKE HOME

MY LAWYER WROTE VA FEE BASIS A LETTER AND THAT DID THE TRICK JUST BECUZ YOU HAVE BONE LOSS DOES NOT MEAN

YOU CANT GET IMPLANTS YOU NEED WHAT THEY CALL A PANAGRAM AND THEN CT TOMOGRAPHIC TOPOGRAPHY OF THE JAW BONE AND NERVE THEN THE IMPLANT DOCTOR DECIDES YES OR NO

HOPE THIS HELPS YOU AND THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO ME IN RELATION TO MY IMPLANTS 100 IU OR SCHEDULAR IS REQUIRED

IF YOUR IN VOC REHAB AND APPLY FOR IMPLANTS I DONT KNOW IF YOUR ELEIGIBLE DONT QUOTE ME ON THAT GO TO WWW.VAWATCHDOG ASK JIM STRICKLAND HE'S THE BEST AROUND FOR ANS VA QUESTIONS

ONE OTHER THING I DONT MEAN TO SOUND FORWARD LISTEN DON'T LISTEN TO THESE VA DENTISTS PERSONALLY I DONT CARE FOR THEM BECUZ THEY LIED TO ME AND ALWAYS GET A 2ND OPINE FOR ANY MEDICAL OR DENTAL PROCEDURE WITH VA.

I AVOID vA MEDICAL AND DENTAL SERVICES COMPLETELY BUT THATS JUST ME YOU MAY SEE IT DEFERANTLY

HOPE THIS HELPS

yeah i was reading the post on comp buy out. thats not a good idea to accept the DEVILS offer of a cash buyout

once you spend the money on a new boat its gone let me put this to you in my crazy way

every month i get $ 2500 from va every month i buy lottery not a lot maybe 6 okay so whats my point

if YA accept the cash buy out from va THE DEVILS OFFER cuz thats what it is THE DEVILS OFFER im not getting any more monthly tax tax free payment for life from va im getting nothing from them zero zip

say i hit the lottery using my va money now im really ahead i keep the 2 500 per month plus my lottery winnings

GUESS WHAT YOU HIT THE LOTTERY USING UNCLE SAMS DOUGH YOUR STILL AHEAD

dont accept the devils offer of a cash buy out/

LOOK every month until you die you get paid by the fed and thats the way it should be but i know some people are not good with money

AND SO DOES THE DEVIL IE VA and those veterans are the ones the va / LUCIFER is looking for the va saves a bundle of money on a cash buy out why their not sending you money every month ever again nada zip game over

remember this ONCE IT'S GONE IT'S GONE NO MORE MONTHLY CHECK FOR EVER. PLUS EVERY NOW AND THEN WE GET COST OF LIVING INCREASE IF YOU CAN CALL IT THAT SO THATS A PLUS

THEIRS AN OLD LEGAL ADDAGE ITS BETTER TO GET SOMETHING THEN NOTHING

LIKE GABBY HAYES USE TO SAY IN THE OLD WESTERNS "YUR DARN TOOTIN."

HOPE THAT HELPS

i think the best thing that could happen to a vet is hitiing the lottery using uncle sams money

[Pete53]

Your chances of getting Dental Implants at the Dallas VA are somewhere between slim and none.