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More Dismantlement of Case Against Jailed Wisconsin Veteran

Madison, Wisconsin—An analysis reveals more corroboration of the account of a Vietnam-era airman who witnessed a colleague's death in a gruesome C-54 aircraft accident in 1969 at a Naval Air Facility in Naples, Italy and is now imprisoned for wire fraud.

The crushing death of Airman Gary Holland in the wheel well of the C-54 set in motion a chain of events that 36 years later led the US Veterans Administration (VA) and the US Atty for the Eastern District of Wisconsin in 2006 to indict and convict a veteran, Airman Keith Roberts (1968-71), diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), on charges of wire fraud, arguing that Roberts fabricated his role at the death scene and his relationship with Holland, defrauding the VA.

Roberts is currently is serving 48 months in federal prison.

The US v. Keith A. Roberts indictment on mail fraud (April 26, 2005) and later superseded by an indictment on wire fraud alleges in part that Roberts in his “(s)cheme to (d)efraud” the VA “falsely represented material information to the VA” including “that Roberts and airman Gary (Holland) were close friends and roommates.”

In fact, an analysis obtained from Roberts wife, Deloris Roberts, of the service histories Gary Holland and Keith Roberts reveals parallel military careers that would make it unlikely that Holland and Roberts were not at least friendly in their relationship, and that contradicts the prosecution’s indictment and trial statements.

Holland and Roberts:

- Took two weeks-long classes together while stationed together in Memphis, Tennessee in 1968

- Were quartered in the same barracks at Lakehurst, NJ where they also trained together for weeks

- Went into the Naval Air Force base in Naples, Italy together as two young airman

- Slept in close quarters (feet away from each other) while at Naval Air Station base in Naples, Italy

- Worked in the same and only base air hangar together

- Took an advancement test together on the morning of the day Holland was killed on Feb. 4, 1969

“I’d say there was a pretty good chance that Keith Roberts and Gary Holland were friends,” said Deloris Roberts. “The prosecution must know this fact.”

Very little exculpatory information was introduced at Roberts’ trial by his court-appointed attorney, and much exculpatory information was not introduced.

VA Policy

After being diagnosed with PTSD and granted disability benefits, Roberts had no idea that political and bureaucratic forces allied with VA Secretary Jim Nicholson in 2004-05 were determined to adopt the policies of the rightwing think tank, the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), ultimately resulting in Roberts’ prosecution after Roberts phoned the VA and complained that the VA were engaging in fraud in processing his PTSD disability claim.

Roberts's phone call and accusation of VA fraud sounded the alarm bells at the VA.

Under the Bush administration, the VA is using propaganda to defend a reduction in benefits to veterans with PTSD, and redirect blame towards the troops themselves, often dismissing the PTSD as a mere pre-existing personality disorder, not requiring VA disability benefits, as 100,000s of troops return home form Iraq and Afghanistan damaged and forgotten.

Roberts’ benefits were ultimately cut after his phone call, and US Atty Stephen Biskupic's office used the VA benefits-severed administrative fact as a means of prosecuting Roberts in a criminal process.

Biskupic is the enforcer of a new VA policy adopted from the AEI that veterans suffering from PTSD wallow in a "culture of trauma" and do not deserve "entitlements;" and what Roberts attorney calls "a VA culture of claims denial that has turned into a criminalizaiton of the disability claims process."

Roberts remains a warning to other Vietnam-era veterans suffering from PTSD to not file for PTSD benefits.


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I know one of his lawyers- you have to keep in mind-the charges were technically for mail fraud.

His BVA and CAVC case etc and more info have been posted here before-

this is why I suggest that PTSD vets make sure that they give the VA stressors which are verifyable- they might have a stressor that is just horrible and one that they think is less traumatic but it might be the lessor one that the JSRCC can actually verify.

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Berta, correct me if I'm wrong I don't fully understand what's going on here.

1.Mail fraud is just a way of saying he received VA checks for disability through the mail which he was entitled to before the VA went after him? (in turn is how the VA go after you if want to pursue)

2. It certainly looks that these guys went everywhere together and this guy was approved under different guide lines? and the VA used new laws to go after this guy because he does not meet "new criteria" that was put in place to keep current vets from getting SC for PTSD because they believe below, V

"Biskupic is the enforcer of a new VA policy adopted from the AEI that veterans suffering from PTSD wallow in a "culture of trauma" and do not deserve "entitlements;" and what Roberts attorney calls "a VA culture of claims denial that has turned into a criminalizaiton of the disability claims process."

Then you see something like this


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If I recall correctly, he was convicted (my opinion-wrongfully) of wire fraud. They had to back away from the Mail Fraud indictment because they didn't have a postal inspector on board. They prosecuted wire fraud without guidance or assistance from treasury.

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I need to correct myself-sorry guys---- he was found guilty of Wire fraud- not mail fraud-

If you want more info on this case, Michael Leone has plenty of info on it at:


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I am not Berta, but I have followed this case. Keith, made the mistake of calling the VAOIG and claiming VA fraud. Then 40 years after the fact the IG went to people, who were at Keith's stressor, and asked questions of the people. Rather than say that they did really know, these people said that Keith had no relationship with the deceased. There were several other questionable items that the IG went after. I feel so sorry for Keith and his family that the ambitious of a newbie IG, wanting to make a name for himself/herself, used tax money to persecute a Veteran.

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Some more information on where Mr. Roberts is at in the system.

Criminal appeal denied:


CAVC Hearing scheduled October 23, 2008 (thats right he was prosecuted for fraud while the VA was still adjudicating his case):


He has been granted a re-hearing before the entire seventh circut:


This guy has been shafted big time! His (bogus) conviction hinges on the premis that he embelished his role in the attempted rescue of Airman Holland and his friendship with him (friend vs acquaintance) and that this embelishment is what allowed him to recieve benefits. It has also been pointed out by his lawyer that he had a second valid stressor event that would have allowed him to collect benefits for PTSD.

He gets four years for this and VA officials caught stealing money are getting just months or probation.

I hope the 3rd and 2nd rounds go better for this man.

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