Jump to content
Using an Ad Blocker? Consider adding HadIt.com as an exception. Hadit.com is funded through advertising, ad free memberships, contributions and out of pocket. ×
  • 0

I'm Confused Over Diagnostic Codes

This thread is over 365 days old and has been closed.

Please post your question as a New Topic by clicking this link and choosing which forum to post in.

For almost everything you are going to want to post in VA Claims Research.

If this is your first time posting. Take a moment and read our Guidelines. It will inform you of what is and isn't acceptable and tips on getting your questions answered. 


Remember, everyone who comes here is a volunteer. At one point, they went to the forums looking for information. They liked it here and decided to stay and help other veterans. They share their personal experience, providing links to the law and reference materials and support because working on your claim can be exhausting and beyond frustrating. 


This thread may still provide value to you and is worth at least skimming through the responses to see if any of them answer your question. Knowledge Is Power, and there is a lot of knowledge in older threads.




The standards to meet the current DSM IV have changed so much and it appears that my Acute Schizophrenic episode is now listed as Schizophreninform disorder. If one were to look at my original medical summery notes of my condition, there is no way that it meets this standard for this particular diagnsosis.

Looking at the current standards for DSM IV, it would appear that I more meet the standards for Schizoaffective disoder, depressive type, back then.

How do I see about getting a current evaluation of my condition then and whether it is the same as what I am suffering now, not withstanding that a brain injury complicates this process?

My psychotic episode was quite acute, with less than a 24 hr. onset that anyone could attest to. It was after a catatonic faze and after being medicated for a couple of days, that I at least came to my senses, enough to get out of bed and wonder into the shower room of the psychiactric ward, I was a patient on, an then proceded to pass out or become catatonic again, who knows and it was at this time I received my head injury. After I regained consciousness, I could not remember the past two or three days leading up to that time, but I had an almost instant recall as to where I was after exiting the shower room, since I was familiar with the psychiatric ward from my duties at the hospital.

I'm at the point that I am so confused, that I am droping my psychiatric claim or for what I believed was a CUE claim, that I am now going to spend my efforts trying to SC my head/brain injury as Residuals from a TBI, which I have now been able to get some helpful evidence to show that probably my problems after being medically seperated from service, stem from this injury and not from the psychiatric illness I believed it was from.

My head hurts and is swimming over this, it's no wonder I couldn't get a hand hold of this case in the past. to many twists and turns and not very many of my own making.

Rockhound Rider :lol: B) B)

Edited by Rockhound
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Answers 6
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters For This Question

Top Posters For This Question

6 answers to this question

Recommended Posts

Just wondering what is your question about ICD vs DSM?

With all the changes since 1973, how am I to be sure that the DC code which reflected ICD codes back then and the DSM IV used today, is the correct one, when It doesn't appear to corrilate with my symptoms back then.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Seems like your symptoms have been consistent, however diagnoses and codes have come into being some since the past. Just like the diag of TBI...this is used now and is new and never was referred to before. Look at PTSD, prior shell shock and others mental probs.

As educational advances occur new diag come about, new ICD 9 and 10 codes come about and the DSM's manuals too. The physicians,some, and the coders have to stay abreast of the changes. The cross over is different when one is diag with mental/psych disorders. We now have coders working in the medical field to reflect the payment reembursement for hospitals, clincs, nursing homes, and other health care facilities too. Eval the best diag to be used to get you the best/favorable results. Check with your health care provider too.


With all the changes since 1973, how am I to be sure that the DC code which reflected ICD codes back then and the DSM IV used today, is the correct one, when It doesn't appear to corrilate with my symptoms back then.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

That is going to have to be a doctor question I am afraid.

I will have to agree with you on this one Ricky and I usually only agree to disagree. LoL :angry:

But it will probably have to be one of those $1,500.00 or more answers, I'm afraid. :(

I need my past diagnosis clarified, A current diagnosis, and a strong nexus that connects them together.

Bah Hom Bug!

Rockhound Rider :P

Link to comment
Share on other sites


I think I posted this suggestion in another one of your threads but if not, I suggest you contact the forensic psychitrist that Josephine used. He was able to go back 44 years in her case and connect all the dots.

Good luck!

TS Snave

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • veterans-crisis-line.jpg
    The Veterans Crisis Line can help even if you’re not enrolled in VA benefits or health care.


  • Advertisemnt

  • question-001.jpegLooking for Answers? Here are tips for finding the answers you seek.


    All VA Claims questions should be posted on our forums. To post, you must register. Registration is free. You can register for a free account here.


    You can read the forums without registering.


    Tips on posting on the forums.

    1. Post a clear title like ‘Need help preparing PTSD claim’ or “VA med center won’t schedule my surgery” instead of ‘I have a question.
    2. Knowledgeable people who don’t have time to read all posts may skip yours if your need isn’t clear in the title. I don’t read all posts every login and will gravitate towards those I have more info on.
    3. Use paragraphs instead of one massive, rambling introduction or story. Again – You want to make it easy for others to help. If your question is buried in a monster paragraph, there are fewer who will investigate to dig it out.


    Leading to:


    Post straightforward questions and then post background information.


    • A. I was previously denied for apnea – Should I refile a claim?
      • Adding Background information in your post will help members understand what information you are looking for so they can assist you in finding it.
    • I was diagnosed with apnea in service and received a CPAP machine, but the claim was denied in 2008. Should I refile?
    • B. I may have PTSD- how can I be sure?
      • See how the details below give us a better understanding of what you’re claiming.
        • I was involved in a traumatic incident on base in 1974 and have had nightmares ever since, but I did not go to mental health while enlisted. How can I get help?


    This gives members a starting point to ask clarifying questions like “Can you post the Reasons for Denial from your claim?” etc.




    • Your first posts on the board may be delayed before they appear as they are reviewed.
    • This process does not take long.
    • Your first posts on the board may be delayed before they appear as they are reviewed. The review requirement will usually be removed by the 6th post. However, we reserve the right to keep anyone on moderator preview.
    • This process allows us to remove spam and other junk posts before hitting the board. We want to keep the focus on VA Claims, and this helps us do that.
  • Most Common VA Disabilities Claimed for Compensation:   


  • Advertisemnt

  • VA Watchdog

  • Advertisemnt

  • Ads

  • Can a 100 percent Disabled Veteran Work and Earn an Income?

    employment 2.jpeg

    You’ve just been rated 100% disabled by the Veterans Affairs. After the excitement of finally having the rating you deserve wears off, you start asking questions. One of the first questions that you might ask is this: It’s a legitimate question – rare is the Veteran that finds themselves sitting on the couch eating bon-bons … Continue reading

  • Create New...

Important Information

{terms] and Guidelines