Non Sc Pension

[USACID]

I need a little advice. I am currently 100% IU PT. I recently submitted a claim for degen arthritis of the spine, paralysis of the sciatic nerve, and scars. The VA sent me the VCAA very quickly and also sent me a letter telling me that I was being considered for a Non Service connected Pension based on my income (or lack thereof). The letter says that I am entitled to a Non Service pension along with the IU if our household income meets a certain level. After reading the VA website, it doesnt seem correct. I dont thin I am entitled. It appears that you can only collect either the VA comp or the VA non serv connected pension, but not both. Is there anyone here who has any experience with this who might be able to shed some light?

[Wings]

I need a little advice. I am currently 100% IU PT. I recently submitted a claim for degen arthritis of the spine, paralysis of the sciatic nerve, and scars. The VA sent me the VCAA very quickly and also sent me a letter telling me that I was being considered for a Non Service connected Pension based on my income (or lack thereof). The letter says that I am entitled to a Non Service pension along with the IU if our household income meets a certain level. After reading the VA website, it doesnt seem correct. I dont thin I am entitled. It appears that you can only collect either the VA comp or the VA non serv connected pension, but not both. Is there anyone here who has any experience with this who might be able to shed some light?

They are asleep at the wheel !! No, you are NOT eligible for a NSC pension if you are already in receipt of 100% disability comp. The VA is so %%$##@@ sometimes.

[Ricky]

In previous posting it has been noted that mary jane has become legal for medical purposes in more states. I believe that whoever sent you that letter has maybe tried to assist veterans by doing some medical research - maybe a little bit too much testing.

If you are drawing VA comp then you do not qualify for a NSC pension - double dipping at its finest!!!!! Also even if you could I do believe that receipt of comp at the 100 percent level would evelate you above and beyond the income levels....

[Pete53]

You got a boiler plate letter that the VA sends out to all whether you meet the criteria or not.

Disregard it cause it means nothing to you cause you can't have both and your 100% TDIU is more than twice the pension.

Good Luck

[Rockhound]

Sorry guys and dolls. Although his 100% IU puts him above the incomes means test to receive a Nsc Pension, You can receive both SC compensation and NSC pension, so long as the amount of your SC conditions does not pay you more than what the NSC pension allows. Takining into consideration that both the SC condition combind with the NSC condition make you TDIU. Your SC compensation amount would be subtracted from your NSC award and that would be the amount of your NSC award, the total of both to equal the amount that would have been your NSC Pension, had it all been NSC. Also remember, should you apply for SSDI, then that amount would also be subtracted from the NSC Pension and if the NSC pension was less than the total of you SC compensation and the SSDI award both, then your NSC Pension drops off completely.

Yes you can have both SC compensation and NSC Pension, but there are limits and the total must be based on TDIU.

It's like right now, I have SC at 10% for $117. and I have one 50% and one 30% NSC pension, combined I also meet TDIU requirements. Say the pension pays $900.00 (just for demo) you subtract the $117.00 from the $900.00 and you get $783.00. That would be the amount of your NSC pension check and then you add that to your SC $117.00 for a grand total, not to exceed your total for the NSC Pension of $900.00. Of course if you also got a SSDI award, then that to would be subtracted from the $783.00 re-computed NSC check and if the total is equal to or less than this amount, the Pension drops off completely and you also loose TDIU since that was based more on the NSC conditions than the SC one. Although for SSDI purposes you would still be TDIU.

Have I confused you enough, sorry, but a NSC pension is based on TDIU and income based need. Any income to the household could effect your NSC pesion amount, even money your kid may earn as a part time employee at Burger King and especially if your wife works and earns a living.

Rockhound Rider

[Pete53]

Its a good deal for a Veteran with no other income at least they will get something. I don't think many can live on it by themselves though. I know a few who do. One of them I try to help with some meals and buying some necessities for him.

[Ricky]

Sorry guys and dolls. Although his 100% IU puts him above the incomes means test to receive a Nsc Pension, You can receive both SC compensation and NSC pension, so long as the amount of your SC conditions does not pay you more than what the NSC pension allows. Takining into consideration that both the SC condition combind with the NSC condition make you TDIU. Your SC compensation amount would be subtracted from your NSC award and that would be the amount of your NSC award, the total of both to equal the amount that would have been your NSC Pension, had it all been NSC. Also remember, should you apply for SSDI, then that amount would also be subtracted from the NSC Pension and if the NSC pension was less than the total of you SC compensation and the SSDI award both, then your NSC Pension drops off completely.

Yes you can have both SC compensation and NSC Pension, but there are limits and the total must be based on TDIU.

It's like right now, I have SC at 10% for $117. and I have one 50% and one 30% NSC pension, combined I also meet TDIU requirements. Say the pension pays $900.00 (just for demo) you subtract the $117.00 from the $900.00 and you get $783.00. That would be the amount of your NSC pension check and then you add that to your SC $117.00 for a grand total, not to exceed your total for the NSC Pension of $900.00. Of course if you also got a SSDI award, then that to would be subtracted from the $783.00 re-computed NSC check and if the total is equal to or less than this amount, the Pension drops off completely and you also loose TDIU since that was based more on the NSC conditions than the SC one. Although for SSDI purposes you would still be TDIU.

Have I confused you enough, sorry, but a NSC pension is based on TDIU and income based need. Any income to the household could effect your NSC pesion amount, even money your kid may earn as a part time employee at Burger King and especially if your wife works and earns a living.

Rockhound Rider

Excellent post Rockhound. That is why hadit exists..........Rock has provided the correct answer to your post. I guess he is worth something after all hahahahahahahahaha