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Help - This Vet Has No Cib - Cab Award

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carlie

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This vet has no CIB - CAB award.

Does this info from his 201 prove (as PTSD stressor) for combat vet?

13F10 - Asst Mach Gunner 14 Aug 1968

and

16F10 - Asst Mach Gunner 14 Feb 1969

along with

Designation:

VN Counteroffensive Phase V

VN Counteroffensive Phase VI

Tet/69 Counteroffensive

Unnamed Campaign

I have scanned these forms and will try to upload them here.

Thanks for any and all responses.

carlie

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His Advanced Individual Training states:

25 May 1968 Duty MOS 13F10 Asst. Mach Gunner.

We have photos of him in bunkers and with the 50 cal he was

assigned to.

He said some of the main things he did was travel in convoys to protect supplies getting through

and perimeter security.

He said in 1969 at Baoloc many,many mortar rounds coming in and he was stationed

there then and returned fire.

He got sent to the Bon Son area (Lodieu Beach) by chopper for a stand down in 1970

and Typhoon Kate came into Bon Son area and the choppers could not get them out.

He said they had to hump to a pick-up point four miles away and in doing so they found a base camp with enemy propaganda and engaged and killed a squad of VC. He said on that patrol there were two pointmen, one was Spec 4 Kenneth T. Perry and the second pointman was

Spec 4 Patrick Glowacki.

What does the VIETNAM SERVICE MEDAL with 4 bronze service stars, mean.

Hoppy,

He does have a current diagnosis of PTSD from his VA Psychiatrist

and his Vet Center MSW, that both provide a nexus to 2 tours of combat in Vietnam.

Thanks to all,

carlie

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What does the VIETNAM SERVICE MEDAL with 4 bronze service stars, mean.

My husband had 3 Bronze Stars in his VSM ribbon- as well as the Presidential Unit Citations and many other awards.

It means nothing for VA claims purposes.

His stressors still had to be verified.

"He does have a current diagnosis of PTSD from his VA Psychiatrist

and his Vet Center MSW, that both provide a nexus to 2 tours of combat in Vietnam."

Did the MSW or shrink ever work as a rater for the VA?

Or did they serve with him in his unit at time of stressors?If so they can give a buddy statement-

He apparently has not been run through JSRRC yet ????

If he gives enough details to JSRRC (via what he said in his claim and to his shrink)- they will find any proof of nexus available but meantime he too should actively be researching his stressors, unit web site, and attempt to obtain a buddy statement in case JSCCR cannot verify his stressors.

I have come across many many vets at local VAMC and elsewhere who thought because their shrink said they had PTSD from Vietnam -it was a done deal.

The diagnosis is only valid when VA obtains proof of their stressor.

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forgot to answer your question!

The Ribbon denotes Vietnam Service with the Bronze Stars denoting campaigns.

The word campaign does not mean participation in direct combat.It can mean support of operations etc-

It does not prove combat for VA purposes.

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Berta,

I realize that the shrink and MSW stating he has PTSD due to in service stressor,

is only medical evidence of PTSD and not evidence of a stressor.

I am trying to find evidence in his files that shows proof of being a combat vet

so the stressor rules are relaxed for PTSD.

That's why I posted the question about the typhoon -

PTSD can be from the stressor of a natural disaster

and from the enemy base camp they engaged with

amoung other experience's.

I still don't know what the 4 bronze stars are for and am questioning that.

This vet say's he thinks each bronze star represents 6 months in Vietnam

but we aren't for sure that this is what they represent.

Are the National Archives located in Washington DC ?

Thanks,

carlie

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The Bronze Stars on this type of ribbon denote Campaigns.

The NARA web site might have something of help-

Also weather reorts can be obtained from NOA-if he needs to prove he was in a Typhoon

I got the actual weather reports that transpired when I did my final AMU essay-from NOA on line

on how the weather affected General Eisenhower's decision for D-Day-

had D day been one day sooner or one day later- the results would have been devastating to the Allied Forces.

As it was- the weather did affect the paratroopers, gliders, and the battleships coming across the English Channel.

I got the actual weather balloon reports and maps,etc and even Hitler's weathermen forecast (same as what Ike got but Hilter didnt believe it-the Allies had a small widow of good weather on D Day)

ooops off track here- I sure hope this vet has something better than a typhoon as stressor if same vet with the VSM and 4 Bronze Stars-

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