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Gaf Rating Question?

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allan

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Would anyone know what the rating for GAF score of 52 might be?

Thanks in advance.

Allan

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allan,

The most important factor I see in the difference of 50 & 70 percent is,

suicidal ideation is part of 70 % but not part of 50 %.

carlie

Me thinks that you are absolutely correct............but, I'm not advocating anyone become suicidal. PLEASE, NO!

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Thanks Larry.

Additional mental health issues they diagnosed and treat me for are bipolar, cognitive problems, PTSD, depression, sleep disorder and anxiety/panic attacks with anger outbreaks.

Some days are better than others. Most days i'm all messed up.

We all knew that, Allan, and we've been making allowances. :)

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The GAF score is a quick snapshot of how you are at that particular moment. So to have a GAF of say "50" on one day really doesn't mean squat. Now, if everytime you go to an appt and you have a GAF score in the 50s.....then you have something to stand on.

That's why the GAF score from a single C&P exam is pretty worthless unless you have a series of other scores to go along with them and they are consistent.

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Now allan,there are some additional symptons besides SI that

VA can consider that are different in the 50 & 70% ratings -

but I feel SI is the one usually documented most often.

allan,

1) If you got a copy of your C&P pull it out and compare it word by word to the Schedule.

2) Always double check the evidence sections in a rating decision to see what's

been or not been considered as evidence (also check the reasons and bases section),

from your medical records.

Always compare this to any rating decision.

3) Always read very carefully, (again compare word by word) what a decision maker

states (in a rating decision) that your c&p examination states.

An example I'd like to give regards a vet I correspond with.

The decision maker granted PTSD at 50 % SC.

In the rating decision the decision maker stated,

upon c&p examination records show, fleeting SI.

NO WHERE IN THIS VETS MEDICAL RECORDS does any MH provider state fleeting SI.

All of this vets MH records refer to current thoughts on SI with an active plan.

This is a clear example of a decision maker twisting and changing the specific wording in the vets

medical evidence, inorder to meet the decision makers own agenda, to award the veteran a lower rating than the medical evidence actually supports.

Many times we get rating decisions in which a decision maker has changed the specific wording

of the medial evidence, and we read the decision and don't compare the decision makers

reasons and bases to that of the exact medical evidence presented.

And...... we bend over.... just a little further.

jmho,

carlie

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Allan,

Study these carefully and compare to your medical evidence:

MH at 70 %

Occupational and social impairment, with deficiencies in most areas, such as work, school, family relations,

judgment, thinking, or mood, due to such symptoms as:

suicidal ideation;

obsessional rituals which interfere with routine activities;

speech intermittently illogical, obscure, or irrelevant;

near-continuous panic or depression affecting the ability to function independently, appropriately and effectively;

impaired impulse control (such as unprovoked irritability with periods of violence);

spatial disorientation;

neglect of personal appearance and hygiene;

difficulty in adapting to stressful circumstances (including work or a worklike setting);

inability to establish and maintain effective relationships

MH at 50 %

Occupational and social impairment with reduced reliability and productivity due to such symptoms as:

flattened affect;

circumstantial, circumlocutory,

or stereotyped speech;

panic attacks more than once a week;

difficulty in understanding complex commands;

impairment of short- and long-term memory (e.g., retention of only highly learned material, forgetting to complete tasks);

impaired judgment;

impaired abstract thinking;

disturbances of motivation and mood;

difficulty in establishing and maintaining effective work and social relationships

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