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Why Does The Va Do This?

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My husband was in the Navy he was deployed this last time from March 08 to Oct 08,In Dec 08 he went to the va to seek help for his depression.( he was told he could not go there until he go out of the military) He was sent to a hospital for 7 days. He is always depressed and in pain. He has bad headaches 3-4 times a week for hrs at a time, knee problems, he always walks with a limp, the va gave him an x-ray and said everything was fine, but his knee is always swollen. What i am not understanding is why wont they give him anything for his pain. they gave him Ibuprofin 800mg, which does little to help.I understand he has had suicidal idealations but he is getting worse, the miliraty gave him Vicodin why wont they help him now? I just don't know what to do , how to help him,,, it makes me so mad, when he goes to see his PRimary care Dr he tells him its all in his head and when he starts to do things he enjoys he will feel better...?? I think not,

My husband is no longer in the military he got out Dec08 , served 8 yrs. thank you all for the reply's

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Welcome to Hadit. I am not sure how to answer your question but your husband needs help.

i agree...with pete .... he needs help..and that a touch thing to give advice on when playing with someone life..... if you fill like the va dr is doing his job...CALL PATIENT AVACOTE person at your va hospital ...

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To answer your question "Why does the VA does this?"....Because most of them suck.

Since your husband is still active duty, is there a base or post nearby that he can go to for medical and psychiatric help? Of course in an emergency, get him to the nearest facility.

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Do what ever you have to do, but get him some help. I went thru a depressive period back in the 90's and the things I thought about doing to myself still scares me today. Depression is dangerous and needs to be to be checked into immediatly. Demand help, don't ask and tell the va if they don't provide it they are looking at a lawsuit. Good luck

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My husband got out of the military, Dec 08, he was on leave from Oct to the time of his release.I stay with him now and makes sure he goes to all his apt. he has so many, He goes to the Va atleast 4 times a week for apt. I just want them to help him so he's not in so much pain all the time.

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My husband got out of the military, Dec 08, he was on leave from Oct to the time of his release.I stay with him now and makes sure he goes to all his apt. he has so many, He goes to the Va atleast 4 times a week for apt. I just want them to help him so he's not in so much pain all the time.

Has he ever filed a claim for benefits ?

Has he been granted any SC'd disability ?

What are the appointments he's going to VA for at least 4 times a week ?

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He filed a claim for depression, with SI,Knee pain, headache due to getting hit by an Air craft(the va said his headaches are not from that but maybe from his depression) constant back pain.. his 4 times a week is to his Social worker, Psycologist.. there trying to help him come to terms and deal with his pain... teaching him breathing methods to get his pain from a 10 to a 9.

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MMMM, I would have said,

"you're right, IT IS IN MY DAMN HEAD."

Where else would depression be????

Some shrinks think they know it all.

Jay

his PRimary care Dr he tells him its all in his head and when he starts to do things he enjoys he will feel better...?? I think not,

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back in the 90s when i called the VA to apply for benefits, i was told no and simply took it lying down. last year, i needed it!!! i wouldnt take no for an answer. i went online and applied for benefits, followed up on it constantly. they lost my ppwk about 3-4 times, put in i was a male (ummm, not so much!), screwed up my ssn and name....but i was a persistent little heifer!! initially, i was declined. i appealed and was approved. the entire process was approx 4 months. no problems since then. but, be aware that once u start going to the va for help, ur gonna be there all the time. i joke about it being my 2nd job :)

so, all that was to say be vigilant and persistent. get ur hubby the help he needs and deserves. stand ur ground. he fought for this country and now it sounds like its ur turn to lead him in this battle. do not take no for an answer. the only thing i could see them turning u down for is if u guys fall into priority group 8.

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He filed a claim for depression, with SI,Knee pain, headache due to getting hit by an Air craft(the va said his headaches are not from that but maybe from his depression) constant back pain..

Have you actually seen his 21-526 form - request for comp and pension ?

It would be very unusual to list "depression, with SI" on a original claim.

Something is also backwards here, a person may get

depression due to headaches,

but I do not see how your going to be able to connect

headaches due to depression.

My suggestion would be to take smr's to a private doctor and start working on

an Independent Medical Opinion, (IMO).

It will be imperative that an IMO doc state they have reviewed the veteran's smr's

and support their conclussions with medical rationale that relates to active duty.

Example:

I have reviewed this veteran's service medical records.

As shown in veteran's smr's dated XX/XX/XXXX and XX/XX/XXXX-

TMC 4 - progress and treatment notes show SM complained of

headaches that began we he was hit by an Air craft on XX/XX/XXXX.

At the time he was sent for physical therapy and put on profile for

XX days. He was provided XXX pain medication for this injury.

It is my medical opinion that the veterans current diagnosis of headaches

are a) directly, b) more likely, c) as likely than not a direct result of this injury.

FYI - I just used headaches as an example - but since he has them the doc

should also make a statement concerning the frequency of headaches and

how they are being medically treated and if they are prostrating.

his 4 times a week is to his Social worker, Psycologist.. there trying to help him come to terms and deal with his pain... teaching him breathing methods to get his pain from a 10 to a 9.

In my opinion this is unacceptable.

Does he have any history of drug abuse or addiction ?

I'd sure want to find out why they aren't providing any true pain medication

besides "Ibuprofin 800mg".

jmho,

carlie

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Lost. where are all these new posts from vistagirl coming from? I only see them as quotes in other ppl's replies....

o man! ur right purple. i dont see anything other than the one at the bottom. that is the one i was replying to. i guess im having an off day :S now im lost too....

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I agree on that but some medications for depression do cause headaches. In that case you could get secondary for headaches.

I have a side effect (chronic diarrhea) from meds I take and have had a C&P exam. I'm just waiting on the rating now.

Jay

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I agree on that but some medications for depression do cause headaches. In that case you could get secondary for headaches.

I have a side effect (chronic diarrhea) from meds I take and have had a C&P exam. I'm just waiting on the rating now.

Jay

WHOLESALE,

Now your talking about secondary conditions -

that's a whole different topic thread to start up.

So far the poster is not SC'd for headaches

So far the poster has not mentioned any medications

long way to go yet.

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Something is also backwards here, a person may get

depression due to headaches,

but I do not see how your going to be able to connect

headaches due to depression.

Sorry my last was confusing. I was actually replying to this comment.

Jay

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They said the reason they are not giving him any other meds is because of his SI, i believe half of his SI is from the pain. he just wants it to stop. On the original claim they have "Depression with SI and HI... when they sent him the form all that was on there was SI and HI?? His exam is next week for it he has 3 on the 19th. He has already had 2 so far.for GM and i think MH.I thank everyone so much for replying and trying to help me and my husband.

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