diabetes Good Evening Congressman Filner

[allan]

17 July 2009

SVR Radio

Good Evening Congressman Filner,

While I appreciate what you are doing…Congress is not doing enough.

My old boss at Rockwell Missile use to say “Don‘t bring me problems without resolutions.†We have offered those but no one seems to be listening. I will go over some of those again but to save time please listen.

I sent to your office the NAS review of the EPA Dioxin Reassessment. If you look at all the prestigious scientists that signed on to that review and what they know and recognize regarding dioxin and dioxin like compounds then either all these scientists are crazy or the Department of Veterans Affairs is a corrupt federal agency. Army fatigues and Marine utilities were not environmental hazard suits no matter what the VA thinks. One set of causations for civilians and one set for the Veterans/Widows and damaged offspring is not fair and falls under the classification of budget control.

For your history edification this Dioxin preliminary Reassessment was in 1992 and was finalized in 1994 and then added as they found even more data. In 1979 an EPA scientist named Delarago found holes in all the chemical company data and did a complex study and evaluation. That report was shelved and never released. The tragedy is that same report a lot of it became the basis of the Dioxin EPA Reassessment in 1992 and now most of it has been confirmed by the NAS review report that I e-mailed to your office, including the immunotoxicity effects of dioxin which explains a lot of the issues Veterans have experienced since leaving Vietnam in many areas of the immune system and are still denied; including all site cancers and systemic immune system problems with X factor outcomes. Many of them mentioned in the Ford Foundation funded report presented to Congress days ago and still denied by VA. In fact, in the EPA 1994 reassessment the conclusion was and it seems now approved by the NAS review that the amount it takes to create a cancer is far less than the amount it takes to create an immune system problem with X factors above cancer outcomes when compared to immune system damages as outcomes. My personal opinion based on the studies is while the dose may have an impact as to time to cancer manifestation; any level of dioxin exposure may lead to a cancer depending on many factors. One of which is of course genetics and genetic pathways.

Now assuming there is a dose rate; which in many cases of these toxic chemicals dose does not make the poison or the outcome but assuming, it would make more sense that more Veterans would be suffering from the lesser dose than the higher dose in autoimmune disorders. But with the Department of Veterans Affairs medical common sense is not a priority.

These immune system problems can kill and certainly contribute to the Veterans Disability. Yet, until we finally got the IOM to approve Primary Amyloidosis not one autoimmune disorder had been approved by VA. So the studies; both National and International, both Civilian and Veteran alike and the EPA assessment in their findings of decreased IgG antibodies, with increased IgA antibodies, alteration of T-cell mediated immunity from activation of peripheral blood cells with polyclonal T-cell activators. Production of Interferon gamma which is a major factor against infection and Tumoregenesis was lowered. Then you have production of Interleukin 4 and 10 increased along with the EPA conclusions of Interleukin 6 and 1b being affected resulting in an IL 4/Interferion gamma ratio that is really bad for the body. Concluding that not only does dioxin create immunotoxicity issues but they can be both ways in the body. A body that no longer protects and in fact enhances (allows or promotes) tumoregenesis but at the same time can become an inflammatory immune system with far reaching implications in organs, symptoms, and diagnosis to include cardiovascular disorders; including heart valve issues no different from the immune system damaged AIDS patient. These can be from acute to chronic depending on the damages and alterations and of course the genetic pathway affected by the immune system.

In the statement above; activation of peripheral blood cells with polyclonal T-cell activators, is more likely the reason many Veterans having Peripheral Neuropathy not diabetes as the VA has mandated for this; yes, a degenerating disorder denied by VA.

I had a VA neurologist call me three times to congratulate me on my posted issues on this matter and he concluded I was correct when he finally did a nerve biopsy on one of my Marines.

I concluded five years ago and so stated that for the Vietnam Veteran triglycerides (also found dioxin associated) was at least as important if not more important than the cholesterol issues in these inflammatory dioxin blood fat created issues. As well as recommended that the highly sensitive CRP test was a valuable tool in monitoring this inflammatory condition and treatment responses in both chronic and acute phase development of these conditions.

From the studies of both Civilian and Veterans and then doing a reverse failure analysis to other found immune system dioxin created problems to me this conclusion was quite obvious. If you watch any TV at all you will see that medicine is just now recognizing both these facts in testing, monitoring, and treatment. In other words, a novice can conclude these issues (finally admitted to for the general population by the medical profession) based on the found facts but the hired guns against Veterans cannot or at least will not associate to this finding or the many outcomes it can create with a lag time that is limitless.

In light of all the VA lies and mistruths and misconduct the following is necessary:

· Have your staff and other congressional committee members review the documents I sent.

· After review… then have closed door meetings with the oversight committee members or staff with myself, Paul Sutton, Mike Eckstein, and a few others to include a well known toxicologist and a cancer researcher to hammer out what we think should be covered based on the evidence and not the politics. (Please, no VSO members as for over 40 years now they have worked for the VA in this issue…not our Veterans.)

· We will also present the fallacy of the Ranch Hand reports that IOM uses to deny us specific associations based on what was not published but found in the official transcripts that were found associated. Some of the medical issues even found to this mythical un-established dose response.

· I would also present some Korean DMZ issues and how VA is denying these men based on nothing and in particular whoever at the VA denied Veteran David Hill (now deceased) should be investigated and then either tried or at least terminated along with his/her VA manager.

· We will also present and demonstrate how several federal agency laws in government studies have been violated and those folks should also be charged in accordance with the government established laws already on the books. Such as violation of Public Health Service Policies on Research misconduct under 42 CFR Part 93 and Veterans Health Administration Research Misconduct Handbook 1058.2.

· Once all this is done you should call in under official oversight Dr. Brown of the VA and demand how he and his predecessors are denying all of these known and identified impacts as well as VA’s Dr. Kang and former head Dr. Susan Mather, including the former heads of the Department of Veterans Affairs. If anyone is caught lying then I would expect this Congress to prosecute to the fullest as they would in any other cases expect for Veterans/Widows/Offspring it seems.

· I would also investigate the White House connection to the denials and the known and identified White House BoB memo put out not to find associations (known to congress I would add) which seems to continuing to this day.

I would also as a separate issue discuss the fact that in the current VA/BVA lawless system we have men who served side by side and one is approved and one is denied with both having the same issues. That is not justice but budget control. There is no excuse for this with the cases being on line and searchable. This also falls under the category of VA/BVA White House budget control.

I hope you will continue your efforts.

However, until I see on the House and Senate floor the same enthusiasms for Veterans Rights as they do defending Terrorists Rights; my hope is I live long enough to see the day when no one will serve in our military no matter how many sign-up bonuses or retention bonuses (bribes) are given out.

Give me one good reason why they should knowing they will be told half the truth of how they will be treated and how their citizen rights guaranteed by our constitution are set aside by our own Congress because of that honorable and in many cases “valorous serviceâ€.

Until that time I will not vote for any incumbent and I urge all Veterans/Spouses/Widows/Offspring of Veterans to do the same. RE-ELECT NO ONE! Eventually we may get some congressional officials that match their words with deeds

It seems when our government creates the Veteran; indeed his citizen rights are then set aside and then open to government sponsored fraudulent activities against them at many levels of government.

Thank you for listening.

Charles Kelley

Snellville, GA

[Chuck75]

I generally agree with you. However there are a few details that you might be interested in.

Congress gave the VA Secretary the authority to DISREGARD the results of any study. Naturally, those favorable to veteran's claims for such things as A.O. related problems, cancer, and any other results that are likely to cost the government(VA) lots of money are disregarded, and those studies that have results favoring the VA's stance are used to deny.

The associations between A.O., asbestos, various solvents, insecticides, immunizations, and long term medical problems have been recognized and treated (sometimes with palliatives for want of anything better) by the medical profession. Even the EPA tends to recognize the associations.

The VA IGNORES and DENIES this body of evidence, scientific data, and virtually anything else that would result in major increased compensation to veterans.

I agree that the VA as a whole should loose the shield of "sovereign immunity", and the additional immunity granted in veteran's compensation laws. VA employees involved in defrauding veterans or conspiracy to defraud veterans should be liable under both civil and criminal law for such actions.

After my father's death (a WWII veteran), I found paperwork showing that the VA's absurd denial and other unfair practices have been in effect for more than fifty years. He was released from active duty (AAF), and pensioned due to service connected Malaria in 1944, and suffered re occurring bouts of it into the late 1960's. I still remember the gallon jug of anti Malaria pills that sat on his dresser for many decades. The VA, starting in the late 40's reduced and reduced his compensation/pension again and again until it was not enough to even compensate for the costs associated with going to repeated C&Ps' in another city, let alone the loss of income due to lost work days. At the time of the Korean war, his SC'd disability was reduced to 0% by the VA, in order to make him supposedly eligible for recall, even though Malaria disqualified him from duty as a pilot, his specialty. As it turned out, the USAF. tried to recall him anyway. The law at that time made him subject to recall only in his specialty. The USAF would have recalled him anyway if he had not known about the law, and formally cited it in writing.

17 July 2009

SVR Radio

Good Evening Congressman Filner,

While I appreciate what you are doing…Congress is not doing enough.

My old boss at Rockwell Missile use to say “Don‘t bring me problems without resolutions.†We have offered those but no one seems to be listening. I will go over some of those again but to save time please listen.

I sent to your office the NAS review of the EPA Dioxin Reassessment. If you look at all the prestigious scientists that signed on to that review and what they know and recognize regarding dioxin and dioxin like compounds then either all these scientists are crazy or the Department of Veterans Affairs is a corrupt federal agency. Army fatigues and Marine utilities were not environmental hazard suits no matter what the VA thinks. One set of causations for civilians and one set for the Veterans/Widows and damaged offspring is not fair and falls under the classification of budget control.

For your history edification this Dioxin preliminary Reassessment was in 1992 and was finalized in 1994 and then added as they found even more data. In 1979 an EPA scientist named Delarago found holes in all the chemical company data and did a complex study and evaluation. That report was shelved and never released. The tragedy is that same report a lot of it became the basis of the Dioxin EPA Reassessment in 1992 and now most of it has been confirmed by the NAS review report that I e-mailed to your office, including the immunotoxicity effects of dioxin which explains a lot of the issues Veterans have experienced since leaving Vietnam in many areas of the immune system and are still denied; including all site cancers and systemic immune system problems with X factor outcomes. Many of them mentioned in the Ford Foundation funded report presented to Congress days ago and still denied by VA. In fact, in the EPA 1994 reassessment the conclusion was and it seems now approved by the NAS review that the amount it takes to create a cancer is far less than the amount it takes to create an immune system problem with X factors above cancer outcomes when compared to immune system damages as outcomes. My personal opinion based on the studies is while the dose may have an impact as to time to cancer manifestation; any level of dioxin exposure may lead to a cancer depending on many factors. One of which is of course genetics and genetic pathways.

Now assuming there is a dose rate; which in many cases of these toxic chemicals dose does not make the poison or the outcome but assuming, it would make more sense that more Veterans would be suffering from the lesser dose than the higher dose in autoimmune disorders. But with the Department of Veterans Affairs medical common sense is not a priority.

These immune system problems can kill and certainly contribute to the Veterans Disability. Yet, until we finally got the IOM to approve Primary Amyloidosis not one autoimmune disorder had been approved by VA. So the studies; both National and International, both Civilian and Veteran alike and the EPA assessment in their findings of decreased IgG antibodies, with increased IgA antibodies, alteration of T-cell mediated immunity from activation of peripheral blood cells with polyclonal T-cell activators. Production of Interferon gamma which is a major factor against infection and Tumoregenesis was lowered. Then you have production of Interleukin 4 and 10 increased along with the EPA conclusions of Interleukin 6 and 1b being affected resulting in an IL 4/Interferion gamma ratio that is really bad for the body. Concluding that not only does dioxin create immunotoxicity issues but they can be both ways in the body. A body that no longer protects and in fact enhances (allows or promotes) tumoregenesis but at the same time can become an inflammatory immune system with far reaching implications in organs, symptoms, and diagnosis to include cardiovascular disorders; including heart valve issues no different from the immune system damaged AIDS patient. These can be from acute to chronic depending on the damages and alterations and of course the genetic pathway affected by the immune system.

In the statement above; activation of peripheral blood cells with polyclonal T-cell activators, is more likely the reason many Veterans having Peripheral Neuropathy not diabetes as the VA has mandated for this; yes, a degenerating disorder denied by VA.

I had a VA neurologist call me three times to congratulate me on my posted issues on this matter and he concluded I was correct when he finally did a nerve biopsy on one of my Marines.

I concluded five years ago and so stated that for the Vietnam Veteran triglycerides (also found dioxin associated) was at least as important if not more important than the cholesterol issues in these inflammatory dioxin blood fat created issues. As well as recommended that the highly sensitive CRP test was a valuable tool in monitoring this inflammatory condition and treatment responses in both chronic and acute phase development of these conditions.

From the studies of both Civilian and Veterans and then doing a reverse failure analysis to other found immune system dioxin created problems to me this conclusion was quite obvious. If you watch any TV at all you will see that medicine is just now recognizing both these facts in testing, monitoring, and treatment. In other words, a novice can conclude these issues (finally admitted to for the general population by the medical profession) based on the found facts but the hired guns against Veterans cannot or at least will not associate to this finding or the many outcomes it can create with a lag time that is limitless.

In light of all the VA lies and mistruths and misconduct the following is necessary:

· Have your staff and other congressional committee members review the documents I sent.

· After review… then have closed door meetings with the oversight committee members or staff with myself, Paul Sutton, Mike Eckstein, and a few others to include a well known toxicologist and a cancer researcher to hammer out what we think should be covered based on the evidence and not the politics. (Please, no VSO members as for over 40 years now they have worked for the VA in this issue…not our Veterans.)

· We will also present the fallacy of the Ranch Hand reports that IOM uses to deny us specific associations based on what was not published but found in the official transcripts that were found associated. Some of the medical issues even found to this mythical un-established dose response.

· I would also present some Korean DMZ issues and how VA is denying these men based on nothing and in particular whoever at the VA denied Veteran David Hill (now deceased) should be investigated and then either tried or at least terminated along with his/her VA manager.

· We will also present and demonstrate how several federal agency laws in government studies have been violated and those folks should also be charged in accordance with the government established laws already on the books. Such as violation of Public Health Service Policies on Research misconduct under 42 CFR Part 93 and Veterans Health Administration Research Misconduct Handbook 1058.2.

· Once all this is done you should call in under official oversight Dr. Brown of the VA and demand how he and his predecessors are denying all of these known and identified impacts as well as VA’s Dr. Kang and former head Dr. Susan Mather, including the former heads of the Department of Veterans Affairs. If anyone is caught lying then I would expect this Congress to prosecute to the fullest as they would in any other cases expect for Veterans/Widows/Offspring it seems.

· I would also investigate the White House connection to the denials and the known and identified White House BoB memo put out not to find associations (known to congress I would add) which seems to continuing to this day.

I would also as a separate issue discuss the fact that in the current VA/BVA lawless system we have men who served side by side and one is approved and one is denied with both having the same issues. That is not justice but budget control. There is no excuse for this with the cases being on line and searchable. This also falls under the category of VA/BVA White House budget control.

I hope you will continue your efforts.

However, until I see on the House and Senate floor the same enthusiasms for Veterans Rights as they do defending Terrorists Rights; my hope is I live long enough to see the day when no one will serve in our military no matter how many sign-up bonuses or retention bonuses (bribes) are given out.

Give me one good reason why they should knowing they will be told half the truth of how they will be treated and how their citizen rights guaranteed by our constitution are set aside by our own Congress because of that honorable and in many cases “valorous serviceâ€.

Until that time I will not vote for any incumbent and I urge all Veterans/Spouses/Widows/Offspring of Veterans to do the same. RE-ELECT NO ONE! Eventually we may get some congressional officials that match their words with deeds

It seems when our government creates the Veteran; indeed his citizen rights are then set aside and then open to government sponsored fraudulent activities against them at many levels of government.

Thank you for listening.

Charles Kelley

Snellville, GA