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I haven't really showed my azz on this board or if I have it has been a really long time since I did I forgot, but I probably did a few years ago, I have had a stroke so I gorget a lot of stuff easily, I don't have to buy new books because my favorite writes W.E.B Griffin, Clive Clussler etc six months after I read the book or series of books I can go back and pick them up and read them again and it's like the first time all over again (saves money on books rofl)

But I know I have memory issues, I have to write a diray basically to remember when and who I saw on what dates and what the conversation was if I need to have a back up memory. I am not like that retired Senator that write down everything all day long everyday down to what pair of socks he wore and what color the suit was.

But I find myself getting pizzed at peep when they ask a question and then get smart towards me with the reply they want answers like we have crystal balls and of course none of us do, no one can "predict when a VARO will do anything" but they leave out a lot of important stuff like their claim they are waiting on they seem to think a claim with 10 or 15 problems should be worked in the same time as a claim with one issue, and what difference should that make, excuse me? Is it me or am I the stupid one?

I get tired of even trying to respond anymore they don't want to hear any type of the fact that they may be causing the problems (writing IRIS every week does not help speed the VA up) or they tell you they haven't called their VSO but down thread they admit they have been calling their VSO but they don't tell them anything, thats nothing new, in 7 years I have never had a SO be able to tell me anything other than I should play lets make a deal or I should drop my claim and be grateful for what I already have, and that I am just being greedy because I expected I a higher PTSD rating than 50% and didn't I know most vets would love to be rated at 50% and that by my filing a NOD for more I was depriving another veteran from getting their claim handled, BS, SO's in my opinion are lazy and would prefer that no one ever calls them and expect action. They close their offices 2 days a week to play catch up and 6 months later they still haven;t filed appeals WTF and they claim they are overworked, they need to try and start working in most cases.

Maybe I should just walk away from the boards and stop trying to help, I don't mind answering questions for new people but I really hate ignorant lying people....am I the only one that gets this way?

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Mike, I understand! I'm the same way. These days, I let the lesser experienced answer the more simple posts. I try not to get angry when newbies come here and due to "laziness" don't even try to search the board for previously posted answers, to their questions. It also bothers me when some "newbies," w/no history on this board, post as tho they are authorities on the VA. As to VA claims, there is, what I believe to be a legal theory, that each claimant is seeking the highest award possible. That being said, what also bothers me, at a veteran site that includes many VN vets, is someone who posts a photo of a draft dodging WJ Clinton, signing some some stupid book, he was way overpaid to write, while many VN vets are being sh*t on by our lovely VA. ;-) I still love ya, bro!!! Next time, I'm south, we'll do lunch, again!

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I haven't really showed my azz on this board or if I have it has been a really long time since I did I forgot, but I probably did a few years ago, I have had a stroke so I gorget a lot of stuff easily, I don't have to buy new books because my favorite writes W.E.B Griffin, Clive Clussler etc six months after I read the book or series of books I can go back and pick them up and read them again and it's like the first time all over again (saves money on books rofl)

But I know I have memory issues, I have to write a diray basically to remember when and who I saw on what dates and what the conversation was if I need to have a back up memory. I am not like that retired Senator that write down everything all day long everyday down to what pair of socks he wore and what color the suit was.

But I find myself getting pizzed at peep when they ask a question and then get smart towards me with the reply they want answers like we have crystal balls and of course none of us do, no one can "predict when a VARO will do anything" but they leave out a lot of important stuff like their claim they are waiting on they seem to think a claim with 10 or 15 problems should be worked in the same time as a claim with one issue, and what difference should that make, excuse me? Is it me or am I the stupid one?

I get tired of even trying to respond anymore they don't want to hear any type of the fact that they may be causing the problems (writing IRIS every week does not help speed the VA up) or they tell you they haven't called their VSO but down thread they admit they have been calling their VSO but they don't tell them anything, thats nothing new, in 7 years I have never had a SO be able to tell me anything other than I should play lets make a deal or I should drop my claim and be grateful for what I already have, and that I am just being greedy because I expected I a higher PTSD rating than 50% and didn't I know most vets would love to be rated at 50% and that by my filing a NOD for more I was depriving another veteran from getting their claim handled, BS, SO's in my opinion are lazy and would prefer that no one ever calls them and expect action. They close their offices 2 days a week to play catch up and 6 months later they still haven;t filed appeals WTF and they claim they are overworked, they need to try and start working in most cases.

Maybe I should just walk away from the boards and stop trying to help, I don't mind answering questions for new people but I really hate ignorant lying people....am I the only one that gets this way?

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No, you are not the only one who feels that way. I tell vets the va has a system and they have to work with it, however some follow my advise and some don't. The ones that don't lose their claims and come back and ask why. My frist question to him/her is, are you ready to listen now.

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Flip the book he is signing is not his book it is this book http://www.forgottensecrets.net/ written and signed by James Ketchum, Colonel retired US Army Psychiatrist he spent his career at Edgewood or most of it doing human experimentation WJ is the only President to have ever apologized for the human experimentation so I have the only copy signed by the author and a President that apologized for the experiments I was abused in so it's special to me (took out my objectionable statement sorry to those offended)

I live near better places to eat now also rofl we took that big back pay and bought a nice home near the airport

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I come into this site a lot but don't actually answer a lot of questions. I am not a veteran but am married to a disabled veteran. I try to never claim I am an expert on the VA EXCEPT I have picked up stuff from helping my hubby get his benefits and reading on websites as experts help others. Having said this...

I know the "experts" must get awfully tired of repeating themselves or answering the stupid so wherever possible I try to take some of that off their hands by directing to previous topics, researching outside the site, and answer from my own experiences and picked up knowledge. This way I hope to give them a break.

However, since I am not an expert I don't have to answer as much and worry about in depth so I don't burn out.

I admire all of you who DO take the time to do the in depth stuff.

That commitment, strength, striving and continuing to hold and then press forward comes through in your repeated ability to help. It is what I notice most in veterans. You show your training.

Think how many people have been helped because of the abilities to translate and clarify and suggest from you and others like you. That is changing the world!

If you have to take a break, so be it. God did! :unsure:

Know though that you are appreciated and admired.

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Mike - Thanks for clarifying(see what happens when one assumes) and sorry but I'll never get over WJC, whether it be VN or the cigar issue. I partially blame him for today's youth's attitude, towards oral sex. Sex is sex but he's a lawyer and you know what that entails. Maybe I only wish he'd been around in the '50s!!! Then maybe I wouldn't have been a 21 yo virgin, extremely thankful, to a Japanese "lady," in 1966, for her favours!!! rofl Still love ya and next time lunch is on you, since you finally got your "well deserved" big win!!! Sorry if the elders edit this but I don't regret Tokyo, at all!!!

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Flip the book he is signing is not his book it is this book http://www.forgottensecrets.net/ written and signed by James Ketchum, Colonel retired US Army Psychiatrist he spent his career at Edgewood or most of it doing human experimentation WJ is the only President to have ever apologized for the human experimentation so I have the only copy signed by the author and a President that apologized for the experiments I was abused in so it's special to me if we counting who served and who didn't none of the last bunch that took us into 2 wars ever served in combat 5 deferrment Cheney, Reserve Navy captain Rumsfeld and Air NG 1LT Bush all seemed to miss Nam also it's time to let those old dogs lay......

I live near better places to eat now also rofl we took that big back pay and bought a nice home near the airport

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I feel the same, people come here with questions about their claims but and in a few days are now experts on all claims and the info they give to people is not right they take snipits of other post they have read and present it as there own. No grattude or respect for those who came before them.

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Mike - Thanks for clarifying(see what happens when one assumes) and sorry but I'll never get over WJC, whether it be VN or the cigar issue. I partially blame him for today's youth's attitude, towards oral sex. Sex is sex but he's a lwayer and you know what that entails. Maybe I only wish he'd been around in the '50s!!! Then maybe I wouldn't have been a 21 yo virgin, extremely thankful, to a Japanese "lady," in 1966, for her favours!!! rofl Still love ya and next time lunch is on you, since you finally got your "well deserved" big win!!! Sorry if the elders edit this but I don't regret Tokyo, at all!!!

yea that assume word we all know the break down of it rofl most of the time it's me

my growing up period was Korea 75/76 you should not send young males off to strange lands with money in their pockets and young women looking to take advantage of them I read somewhere that the military has now made this illegal in Korea I wonder how they enforce that law?

Yea I agree I can't even look at a cigar the same way anymore rofl but our utes were rotten before the definition of "it" was famous between MTV and rap it has been downhill ever since our parents told us rock and roll was the devils work and radios were the size of a refrigerator

bottom line is Flip we are just getting OLD and there ain't no stopping it

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I have been reading Howard Zinn. He flew bomber missions in WWII but rebelled against all he had learned and became a civil rights activists when he was a college professor. He got fired, but fought on anyway. He wrote "The People's History of the United States". I learned 1% of the people own 30-40% of the nation's assests. The rest of us guard it for them.

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Test:

For your first question I try to help if I can. I usually ask the Vet to post on the Board cause their questions help Veterans who lurk and don't post. Sometimes I get tired and I despise the posers and people who like to cause trouble on the Board.

So my approach is to try to help and rely on the good people who can share experience and information.

As far as the opinions expressed about our ex President I am going to leave everything intact as in this case it is based on the context of your question. I will add this caveat though. Tbird who founded Hadit and babied it to become the best Board to help Veterans with their claims does not want political posts, Another Moderator may or may not edit or remove but we are all adults and know that in the Veteran Community their are views not shared by all. Also WJC is an ex President if it was about Obama I would probably unapprove the Post.

I also reread old books. I enjoy W E B Griffith immensely especially his books about Officers in US Air Cav during Nam.I like to read books that are made into movies before I see the movie.Mysteries, Detective and Sci Fiction including Jim Butchers series about a Warlock in Chicago. I buy books used and I keep all books I ever owned except most of the text books I had in College.

My suggestion is that if you don't feel like helping someone who asks be honest and suggest that they use the Board or ask someone else. The designations of how long Members have been here and their status are pretty good indicators for the most part.

If you look into why you keep coming back I know for me I enjoy nothing more than to see a Veteran I encouraged or helped even a little win their claim.

I had to do mine basically on my own although Alex Humpfries and James Smith helped me a lot in the bleak years I struggled with the VA.Gwen told me about Hadit shortly after Tbird started it and I have been here ever since.

So if you don't feel up to helping take a break and I always enjoy your posts and Flips also even when he chews on my ass.

Good Luck

My Favorite Book is the Godfather

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they can edit out objectionable material I was not trying to step on anyones toes just clarifying the book that was being signed

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I sure hope that I'm not one of those pain-in-the-azz newbies.

I know that I am pretty irrelevant and irreverant at times.

Speaking of books, I've found an author who's books are pretty good, Robert B. Parker. At least they are fairly easy to read.

I read a lot, A LOT! And, I did keep all that I have read, until I started wondering what was in all those boxes of books. Know what I did?

I took 'em down to the the VA Medical Center in Dallas and in Bonham, TX, and made a "donation" of tons of WEBGriffin, etc.

I hope the guys/gals enjoy them as much as I have.

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No it doesn't mean that the problems are even at this site this is not the only place we run into questioning veterans, local VAMC's, other web sites etc, heck even the cats are my nerves at times it might just be me maybe my meds need adjusting again wouldn't be the first time

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Just another reason for nerves could be the weather. I kid you not. When it is grey and wet or cold and snowy (thank goodness that's over here), it can affect you. Maybe too housebound or bored.

By the way, I am an avid bookaholic myself. Read 1 to 2 books a day and would rather read than watch tv. I occasionally sort and have eliminated a lot but still have over 6000 in my bookroom.

Right now I'm reading David Drake's RCN series over (for the umpteenth time. lol)

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It's good to see you post again Testvet.

I tried to help a friend of the family get SC Pension recently.

I gave him the information & forms to print off the internet for his records, since he didn't have any.

He lost all of that several times.

I than printed it out myself & handed it over to him. He lost that also. He started calling me two or three times a week wanting to know how long it could take before he gets any money.

Evey time I would ask if he has even sent the form in for a copy of his DD214 to prove he's a veteran. The answer would "always" be no.

Than I asked if he had "anything" happen to him while he served in Vietnam or his service. The Answer was no, but he was going to make something up.

That did it for me. He called & called whenever he got drunk & asked how he could cheat the system. My answer was did you bother to send off for a DD-214?

The answer was always no.

I don't believe he's a veteran let alone a Vietnam vet. Just another trying to cheat the system.

It burns you out just to get one of these so called vets, that won't bother to take the time to even sign their name to what you type up & print out.

I don't do it because I need the practice or stress fighting the DVA.

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It's good to see you post again Testvet.

I tried to help a friend of the family get SC Pension recently.

I gave him the information & forms to print off the internet for his records, since he didn't have any.

He lost all of that several times.

I than printed it out myself & handed it over to him. He lost that also. He started calling me two or three times a week wanting to know how long it could take before he gets any money.

Evey time I would ask if he has even sent the form in for a copy of his DD214 to prove he's a veteran. The answer would "always" be no.

Than I asked if he had "anything" happen to him while he served in Vietnam or his service. The Answer was no, but he was going to make something up.

That did it for me. He called & called whenever he got drunk & asked how he could cheat the system. My answer was did you bother to send off for a DD-214?

The answer was always no.

I don't believe he's a veteran let alone a Vietnam vet. Just another trying to cheat the system.

It burns you out just to get one of these so called vets, that won't bother to take the time to even sign their name to what you type up & print out.

I don't do it because I need the practice or stress fighting the DVA.

Allan, why don't you just tell him to give you his "serial number" and you will send off for his DD214 for him.

EVERYBODY remembers their serial number (heck, I remember my M14's serial number!). Of course, I can't remember my telephone number that I now have!

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I have hit my cut off point with taking on

anyone else to help....

at least for a while.

Many people want your help but they can't be bothered to do

a damned thing for themselves.

Without pr teaching me so much,I don't know where I'd be.

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You have to also remember Questions similar in nature can be answered in different ways with different opinions. I would agree though that standard questions that are based on facts should be researched first.

Is it laziness? I wouldn't jump to that conclusion. Many on here suffer from Attention Deficit Disorder and Concentration problems. Researching and even just something simple as reading a book would be hard for some on here since they might suffer from depression or other mental disorder.

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No, you are not the only one Testvet: My only claim to fame in helping other Vets are for my undeciferable post at times. My history in helping is by post, at times, an answer to someone elses question or reading a correction of something I posted being wrong, and of course, telling anyone I talk to, that I got my help with my claim from hadit and a fairly good and conscious VSO, although my VSO is more of a rallying point, since I do all the leg work and they do and file all the paperwork.

When it comes to reading books, I'm as avid as most readers, and I to have memory issues in that I can go back and read an previously read book and enjoy it as if I hadn't read it before, which in a lot of cases I find was what I did. the ADD that is spoken about, for me at least, is actually AOADD (adult onset attention deficit disorder) due to a medical conditon or for some it might be due to the regemine of medications they take.

My ability to concentrate on something is only slightly longer than my ability to remember someones name I just met and if it isn't in the forefront of my thinking process or in front of me, it is only as long as my mind does not become fatigued or my eye sight begins to strain from the effort of reading something that becomes jumbled in a cloud of, where was I at on the page I was reading, or I got to just lie down so my mind and body can catch up with me feeling.

If I want to do any research on my claim, I must do it first, before I even think of visiting any of the webb sites or forums I like to frequent or I have to put it off for later that day or even until the next day, although this site is at the top of my to do lists, so if I am not doing anything else that day, I come here, because I feel I am not alone and can see and tell that their are many others who have similiar issues or have similiar thoughts and similiar problems associated with the DVA.

NO!!! you are not alone. Take a break, sit back in a cumffy chair and read one of your many books that you have and don't remember reading before. LoL :D

Best wishes for a speedy recovery from your burn out. :P :D :unsure: B)

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