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One For You Berta As Medical Lay Person

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Berta: I was a Hospital Corpsman in the Navy. To get their, I had to attend both an A school and B school before being allowed to receive orders to my first duty station as a HN/E2 Hospitalman. At that rank I served at several posts, to include, ward duty with new born infant care and then infant intensive care unit. from their I was transfered to my second posting to ward duty on a proctology surgical recovery ward. This was followed by a posting in the Cardiopalmonary lab as their administrations clerk, also serving as the clerk for the cardiopalmonary lab school. Next duty rotation I served at a Drug Rehab center as an intake physical evaluation clerk. acting as a physicians assistant in giving physicals and assisting the Dr with minor out patient surgical percedures. Upon my request at this time I was transfered from shore duty to Sea duty as a Junior medical officer/ Hospitalman 3rd class aboard a small class DD/Destroyer, where I attended to the medical needs of the enlisted personel aboard ship, this included conducting Sick Call twice a day and any and all emergencies that might arise. One of the duties, of which is of great importants, is that I was also charged with keeping all the medical files of the enlisted men, making entries as needed to show any illness, injuries, and/or treatment that I may note or dispense in the course of my duties. These would be the medical entries that the VA would look at to determine if an injury or illness had occured during service. It was also my duty to keep track of the quality of the potable water aboard ship and the control of any pests or vermin that may have made its way aboard with the use of US Navy regulated pest control chemicals.

Upon my transfer back to shore duty, my temporary duties were at a dispenseries imunisation clinic, dispensing the various shots that are necessary for those personnel who travel to foreign shores. My last duty station was as a Security Personnel at a Navy Hospital as a junior petty office of my post with personnel under my command. At this time I was approved for re-enlistment with approval to attend a Specialty School of my choice and advancement upon its successful completion. This is when I became ill and the time I was injured.

After leaving the service I attended College where I took and passed a class in Human Anatomy and cirtification as a EMT I/ Emergency Medical Technician. As you can see, I have had a varied amount of education and practicle experience in a number of areas, but I note my limited time aboard ship provided the most applicable training and experience of them all, not that the rest didn't have any meaning or cary any less weight in my medical career.

In the course of compiling my claim for my SC nasal fracture and deviated septum and now for secondary issues, I have researched the conditions for which I claiming and find that I probably have or has just as much knowledge about the condition as one would expect of a nurse practitioner except for the surgical aspects of the condition. But for the general knowledge necessary in conducting a physical exam, noting symtoms and their severity and the general knowlege in the basic treatment of these problems, I feel I am just as qualified in my opinion as that of a Nurse Practitioner. However I may have to do some point to point research on lab results and such, and time to update the list of pharmacology used in possible treatments that I would recommend, but on a one to one basis, I think my qualifications as a medical layman should have some weight comparible to that of a NP in this instance.

I know this sounds like a rant to some or most, but my training and experience should have some meaning and cary some weight in this case, at least more than just my word on the matter. What do you say and how do I get my training and experience noted?

Rockhound Rider :)

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Was it part of an apprentice program, the chicken coop bit? Seems the order of posts got switched. Anyway quite funny but the end.

did not work out as i wound up with some broilers

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To Berta's post:

"I feel terrible every time I suggest to a vet that they should get an IMO.

I have dealt with the VA for over 20 years and unfortunately IMOs are often the only way to succeed these days."

I did exactly what you suggested, taking the denial line by line. They ignored that completely. They took the new evidence and deleted/cut and pasted/misrepresented in complete contradiction to their own VA Neurologists hand written notes.

Who do you go crying to then. All I can determine that:

a. Get it out of that reviewers hands

b. IMO (one in my area the ambulance chasers use)

Your opinion holds sway with me and as distateful as going into your own pocket to counter the VA's lies and misrepresentations what choice do you have. I could go on to the BVA with the same evidence but with the time this will take I feel it is good advise to get the IMO/new evidence up front after gathering the MRI discs etc. and having it all ready to hand to the specialist.

I wish there was someone to goto in the VARO that was unbiased and would look at this with new eyes but I don't see that option.

Sad but true IMHO.

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Berta: I was a Hospital Corpsman in the Navy. To get their, I had to attend both an A school and B school before being allowed to receive orders to my first duty station as a HN/E2 Hospitalman. At that rank I served at several posts, to include, ward duty with new born infant care and then infant intensive care unit. from their I was transfered to my second posting to ward duty on a proctology surgical recovery ward. This was followed by a posting in the Cardiopalmonary lab as their administrations clerk, also serving as the clerk for the cardiopalmonary lab school. Next duty rotation I served at a Drug Rehab center as an intake physical evaluation clerk. acting as a physicians assistant in giving physicals and assisting the Dr with minor out patient surgical percedures. Upon my request at this time I was transfered from shore duty to Sea duty as a Junior medical officer/ Hospitalman 3rd class aboard a small class DD/Destroyer, where I attended to the medical needs of the enlisted personel aboard ship, this included conducting Sick Call twice a day and any and all emergencies that might arise. One of the duties, of which is of great importants, is that I was also charged with keeping all the medical files of the enlisted men, making entries as needed to show any illness, injuries, and/or treatment that I may note or dispense in the course of my duties. These would be the medical entries that the VA would look at to determine if an injury or illness had occured during service. It was also my duty to keep track of the quality of the potable water aboard ship and the control of any pests or vermin that may have made its way aboard with the use of US Navy regulated pest control chemicals.

Upon my transfer back to shore duty, my temporary duties were at a dispenseries imunisation clinic, dispensing the various shots that are necessary for those personnel who travel to foreign shores. My last duty station was as a Security Personnel at a Navy Hospital as a junior petty office of my post with personnel under my command. At this time I was approved for re-enlistment with approval to attend a Specialty School of my choice and advancement upon its successful completion. This is when I became ill and the time I was injured.

After leaving the service I attended College where I took and passed a class in Human Anatomy and cirtification as a EMT I/ Emergency Medical Technician. As you can see, I have had a varied amount of education and practicle experience in a number of areas, but I note my limited time aboard ship provided the most applicable training and experience of them all, not that the rest didn't have any meaning or cary any less weight in my medical career.

In the course of compiling my claim for my SC nasal fracture and deviated septum and now for secondary issues, I have researched the conditions for which I claiming and find that I probably have or has just as much knowledge about the condition as one would expect of a nurse practitioner except for the surgical aspects of the condition. But for the general knowledge necessary in conducting a physical exam, noting symtoms and their severity and the general knowlege in the basic treatment of these problems, I feel I am just as qualified in my opinion as that of a Nurse Practitioner. However I may have to do some point to point research on lab results and such, and time to update the list of pharmacology used in possible treatments that I would recommend, but on a one to one basis, I think my qualifications as a medical layman should have some weight comparible to that of a NP in this instance.

I know this sounds like a rant to some or most, but my training and experience should have some meaning and cary some weight in this case, at least more than just my word on the matter. What do you say and how do I get my training and experience noted?

Rockhound Rider :)

just to let you know i know nothing about what you are describing and i in no way was trying to put you down with my chicken coop joke. i have no opinion on what you are describing and was just trying to have a little humor and have the highest respect for you rock and berta. so please do not take offense to my corny joke and forgive me if i have given you the wrong impression. love you guys and girls. feel free to take a shot at me when the opportunity comes along.

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just to let you know i know nothing about what you are describing and i in no way was trying to put you down with my chicken coop joke. i have no opinion on what you are describing and was just trying to have a little humor and have the highest respect for you rock and berta. so please do not take offense to my corny joke and forgive me if i have given you the wrong impression. love you guys and girls. feel free to take a shot at me when the opportunity comes along.

I thought that joke was directed at me and thought it was funny. This doesn't have to be all doom and gloom. I appreciate you injecting a little humour. I certainly took no offense.

So we're all good and back to the topic.

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Berta: I was a Hospital Corpsman in the Navy.

I know this sounds like a rant to some or most, but my training and experience should have some meaning and cary some weight in this case, at least more than just my word on the matter. What do you say and how do I get my training and experience noted?

Rockhound Rider B)

rock,

If you have any type of certificates or credentials from medical training

you could include copies of those to VA to help substantiate your medical training

and professional knowledge. If you are able to do this then VA may have to give

some extra weight to your statements about your conditions.

I have a buddy that is a licensed RN and VA has to give some extra weight to their

statements due to this.

jmho,

carlie

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