ptsd Iu Work History On Va Form 21-8940

[jack81mm]

Hello,

A little background. Deployed Iraq wid guard unit title 10 from 2002 to 2004. After release from AD I havent worked wid any full-time sustainable work. I have continued to work wid guard bout 50 days a yr. I have only continued to work wid guard cause its only 2 days a month and I slip under the radar from ANYONE detecting my behaviour till recently. I havent worked anything under the table to survive and dont need much income. I just have tried to work but for no more than few days. My PTSD symptoms mostly prevents me from showin up on time, takin direction, concentration, memory and my short temper anger outbursts prevent me from any social communication as well as the well being of others.

On VA form 21-8940 # 16. LIST ALL YOUR EMPLOYMENT INCLUDING SELF-EMPLOYMENT FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS YOU WORKED. SO that means not just list work from the last 5 calender yrs but ALL from last 5 yrs.

So as an example if you worked in 1999, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005 but not in 2006, 2007, 2008 or 2009 You would answer wid the first four dates(the last 5 yrs u worked) not just from 2005 to 2009 (the last 5 yr pd.) Anybody see it a different way???

And would only full-time be considered or part-time work be included?

Also if the only work u performed in the last 5 yrs worked was MDAY (drilling weekend) national guard work would that be listed as work?

And would this guard work be considered a sufficient answer even though guard is considered part time job?

To make this more clear I answer the question listing only guard as the only job I have worked for the last 5 yrs I have worked. Would that be correct???

Does the VA care on an IU claim bout the accountability/reason of ur presence outside of the 5 yr work pd? For example why u didnt work this yr or that yr cause of suspicion of how one can survive w/o working.

Hope my meds havent kicked in so as to be confusing.

THX

JACK

[purple]

Work is work. The VA has your SSAN.

If you are trying to claim IU and still working....military no doubt, well...........

[BoonDoc]

Jack,

"LIST ALL YOUR EMPLOYMENT INCLUDING SELF-EMPLOYMENT FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS YOU WORKED."

Go back to your last job, full time, part time, whatever you had, and list them going back for 5 years from your last employment.

Were you on good terms with your bosses? The reason I ask is I had three former employers say that I left due to moving when I left due to SC disabilities. Some of them didn't respond, the VA used this against Me.

Do you have you SMR's, VA MR's and c-file yet I would have requested them in person from my VARO before I submitted my claim for TDIU, had I known better.

Good Luck,

BoonDoc

[jack81mm]

purple.......military no doubt, well what?????? If u read my post well I said Im not working. Guard or anyone!!!!! Im not hiding anything genius!!! Im looking for answers based on my post so as to understand exactly how to complete the VA form.

_{SO do u really have any logical comments?????}

_{And as I said I have PTSD so I talk straight forward and dont pull any punches in cases like dis. Before u take offense u should look in the mirror before u pass judgement}

I Would like to hear them

JACK

Work is work. The VA has your SSAN.

If you are trying to claim IU and still working....military no doubt, well...........

[sharon]

Don't use up all your ATTITUDE on Purple, save some of it for the VA. The best way to get help is to attack the people that would other wise help you. I have PTSD, am straight forward, but am not RUDE. Enought said.

[purple]

No need to be rude on this forum...it won't get you anywhere. I also have PTSD and I tell it like it is.

[jack81mm]

Sharon,

I dont use PTSD as an excuse. Just that maybe folks ought to be careful before they provoke folks. He deserved it. And I have plenty left. Im an Infantry soldier. LOL

BoonDoc,

Yes I have SMRS, etc. I feel Ive been advised fairly by VSO and Legion rep but still undecided.

And my main interest is completin the form correctly. Would u just put National Guard if its the only u job u have had in the last 5 yrs. Even its part-time????

Im really wantin to decide if that would be acceptable by VA. Make sense???

On decent terms wid bosses. What I hear is VA tries to get response from them in reasonable time. If not, they dont hold it against u and make a decision.

I can see how that was used against u even though I dont agree wid them. Its not ur fault or responsibility.

Any more thoughts

JACK

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Jack,

"LIST ALL YOUR EMPLOYMENT INCLUDING SELF-EMPLOYMENT FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS YOU WORKED."

Go back to your last job, full time, part time, whatever you had, and list them going back for 5 years from your last employment.

Were you on good terms with your bosses? The reason I ask is I had three former employers say that I left due to moving when I left due to SC disabilities. Some of them didn't respond, the VA used this against Me.

Do you have you SMR's, VA MR's and c-file yet I would have requested them in person from my VARO before I submitted my claim for TDIU, had I known better.

Good Luck,

BoonDoc

[purple]

BTW...I'm a "she". Women are vets too.

Also this is from your post: "I have only continued to work wid guard cause its only 2 days a month and I slip under the radar from ANYONE detecting my behaviour till recently."

Which sounds like you are still working with the Guard to me...

Edited August 30, 2009 by purple (see edit history)

[jack81mm]

Maam,

"I have only continued to work wid guard cause its only 2 days a month and I slip under the radar from ANYONE detecting my behaviour till recently."

Thats the key word recently.....My behaviour and work performance had been decreasing because of my conditions until recently noticed and put on med hold...Im not drilling or being paid but still on the books till resolved.

Now do u have any opinions on what Ive been asking????

Jack

BTW...I'm a "she". Women are vets too.

Also this is from your post: "I have only continued to work wid guard cause its only 2 days a month and I slip under the radar from ANYONE detecting my behaviour till recently."

Which sounds like you are still working with the Guard to me...

[sixthscents]

I do have somethign to say... First you stated you worked two days and that it slipped under the radar. This presumes that you were still working, and that you knew that working would in some way hinder your benefits. Otherwise why say this?

As to your original question, put the last fives years you have worked from your last date of employment... this includes any drilling with the national guard.

Now, you will NOT answer a comment in such a fashion again. Period. If you have a problem with what someone says you direct a moderator to the situation, but you do not post some huge font junk. This is not a place for stuff like that.

Now I dont see how Purple provoked anything. Purple was statinhg that the military was where you were working (hence the military no doubt), and in your post you state this and only clarify it later. In any case do NOT do this again. If you have a complaint bring in a moderator.

[Pete53]

Jack:

Purple was trying to hep you.

Attacks on Hadit Members are not tolerated here. If it happens again there will be consequences.

[BoonDoc]

Jack,

Yeah, you need to list the Guard too. I had to go back to 1995 for my present TDIU claim, last time I had any employment.

The last job that I had was after being released from Voc Rehab, and was only 2 hours in office M-F, and maybe another hour doing maintenace, picking up trash, etc. at minimum wage, so my monthly check was never over $500.00, way below what is considered gainful employment...The Va said that I had quit, so I was denied TDIU..they used a crap job, to deny me TDIU.

Your Guard supervisor knows the trouble that your having, so you should have no trouble having the reason for not being on drill being stated as being related to PTSD, etc., so you shouldn't have the trouble that I had.

Good Luck,

BoonDoc

[jack81mm]

Cents,

Well its obvious u r not being rational....but Ill take it up to u....purple was insuating that Im still working. She assumed instead of asking. And Ive been clear in stating that I dont work. She offered no advice but to just insuate and her statement with "...well....." So that is the reason for my response. Below is my response to make it more clear.

Yet u, purple, sharon n pete have not offered any help wid my statements or questions just taking her side.

Seems that it is more important here to take sides than to lets move on n offer advice or opinions.

I take it as an attack toward me than Im attackin purple. Why wasnt that the conclusion from u, sharon n pete?? My attitude my be in question but thats it.

Boondoc is the only one so far who has moved on and attempted to help.

"I have only continued to work wid guard cause its only 2 days a month and I slip under the radar from ANYONE detecting my behaviour till recently."

Thats the key word recently.....My behaviour and work performance had been decreasing because of my conditions until recently noticed and put on med hold...Im not drilling or being paid but still on the books till resolved.

And by under the radar that means that by only working 2 days a month its extremely hard for fellow employees to notice any PTSD symptoms and its effects on duty work.

Does the VA care on an IU claim bout the accountability/reason of ur presence outside of the 5 yr work pd? For example why u didnt work this yr or that yr cause of suspicion of how one can survive w/o working.

Now does anyone have any opinions on what Ive been asking????

And for pete what bout consequences for the insuatin that purple made???? And purple was not tryin to help. All she made was an insuation that Im still workin. Its obvious Im not workin or I wouldnt be sending the IU form into VA. purple did not follow up wid any comments or answers to my post other than that.

Lets see if haditmembers are gonna help now.

I do have somethign to say... First you stated you worked two days and that it slipped under the radar. This presumes that you were still working, and that you knew that working would in some way hinder your benefits. Otherwise why say this?

As to your original question, put the last fives years you have worked from your last date of employment... this includes any drilling with the national guard.

Now, you will NOT answer a comment in such a fashion again. Period. If you have a problem with what someone says you direct a moderator to the situation, but you do not post some huge font junk. This is not a place for stuff like that.

Now I dont see how Purple provoked anything. Purple was statinhg that the military was where you were working (hence the military no doubt), and in your post you state this and only clarify it later. In any case do NOT do this again. If you have a complaint bring in a moderator.

[jack81mm]

Boon,

Thx for ur reply. SO u think putting on the IU form only working the guard p/t the last 5 yrs is looked at negatively ???

That was my only job. Why I asked if VA is concerned on how u live wid only a part time job and not a full time job. Does that make sense.

So I will put the guard down on paper. I just dont have any other jobs to put down.

THX.

JACK

Jack,

Yeah, you need to list the Guard too. I had to go back to 1995 for my present TDIU claim, last time I had any employment.

The last job that I had was after being released from Voc Rehab, and was only 2 hours in office M-F, and maybe another hour doing maintenace, picking up trash, etc. at minimum wage, so my monthly check was never over $500.00, way below what is considered gainful employment...The Va said that I had quit, so I was denied TDIU..they used a crap job, to deny me TDIU.

Your Guard supervisor knows the trouble that your having, so you should have no trouble having the reason for not being on drill being stated as being related to PTSD, etc., so you shouldn't have the trouble that I had.

Good Luck,

BoonDoc