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Ptsd With Depressive Symptoms, Anxiety And Insomnia


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I was rated 50% PTSD almost a year ago. I have since appealed this for an increase, because my symptoms seem worse, and I have found additional proof of traumatic events. In my very first claim, I reported Anxiety and Insomnia also. They denied me all of it, until I sent in my first bit of proof of PTSD. (Sworn Statements from traumatic events) When it came through, it said... post traumatic stress disorder with depressive symptoms, 50 percent. I'm guessing my Anxiety and Insomnia were still denied. I am heading out to the VA next week for my appeal C&P. Do I need to point out specifically to this examiner that I have anxiety and insomnia? Or are they going to give me the run around telling me that those are all balled into the PTSD claim? I stated to him I was having horrible luck sleeping, and have many of the signs of Anxiety. Also, a final question I have, What is the rating scale for Anxiety and Insomnia? I've tried looking on 38 CFR, but it seems as if they use the same scale as PTSD. (Meaning there are all the same symptoms.

Any advice is greatly appricated. I look forward to hearing more on this topic, as I have been reading off of this website for the past few months, and has helped me greatly in stating my claim to the VA.

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The way to write this us is that as a result of long standing PTSD you suffer from depression and insomnia. PTSD is an anxiety disorder. These things all go together. If you can't sleep and feel anxious it is easy to get depressed. What you want to show the VA is that your mental health is worse and you need more than 50%. The usuall difference between a 50% rating for PTSD and a 70%-100% rating is your ability to work. If you can't work due to PTSD then you get a higher rating.

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The key is are you able to work. 50% to 70% is about as far as VA will go if you work.

About the C&P. Its not a job interview dress the way you do at home most of the time. If you don;t leave home much be sure and tell the examiner. Answer the questions like it is when you are home. Don't fret to much since you have already done the heavy lifting by having a 50% rating for PTSD.

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I did state in my letter that I am working currently, but only part-time, and that isn't going well at all. I feel as if they're going to fire me any day now. I sent this in a statement, along with my wife's statement noting problems and difficulties working due to stress, insomnia, etc. Also, so I'm guessing insomnia is a different claim than PTSD? Am I correct on this? I'm wondering if I will need to file yet another claim for this.

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Hi All,

I'm taking a variety of prescription medications for PTSD (for sleep, depression). My treatments are on a out-patient basis at a local VA Mental health facility for the last six months. At what point do I file a claim for PTSD?

Thank You All for your Service,

rjalexjr

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If you have some organic disease reason for the insomnia it might be different. If it is a result of anxiety, depression or PTSD it will all be rated under PTSD most likely. On my last MH rating I was rated for about 5 different conditions but it was all under just one DX.

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I will make a guess that 905 of Veterans with anxiety problems do not sleep like they should either. Last nite I did not sleep till after breakfast this morning. My wife asked me if I was worried about something and I told her the truth. I am always worried about something.

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Paxil would help with the worry problems. The worrying is part of obsessive/compulsive aspect to anxiety disorder. It has something to do with your levels of seratonin in your brain. I worry all the time as well. I feel like something bad is lurking out there for me. The SSRI drugs help with that but you know the side effects.

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Hi All,

I'm taking a variety of prescription medications for PTSD (for sleep, depression). My treatments are on a out-patient basis at a local VA Mental health facility for the last six months. At what point do I file a claim for PTSD?

Thank You All for your Service,

rjalexjr

uhhhhh? How's about NOW!

Use the "proper" form, which, I'm now convinced, is the VA Form #21-526EZ. Get all your ducks in a row before sending this form in to the Regional Office, making sure to enclose all your PTSD treatment records (get 'em from the VA Medical Center, ROI office), any Service Medical Records or Service Treatment Records, a copy of your DD214, any other documentation that proves you were in a situation that would cause PTSD (were you, in fact, in fear of your life due to enemy or terrorist activity?), photographs that substantiate your PTSD claim, any and all CAR/CAB ribbons, any other awards that would indicate that you were, in fact, where you COULD have been subjected to a PTSD-causing stressor (you do not have to PROVE the "stressor event" anymore, BUT you do have to have been in the right place, at the right time to have been, like I said, in fear of your life or your safety).

(say, I just happened to think about something....................I wonder if being met at the airport in San Diego by a 6'4", 240lb. DRILL INSTRUCTOR and being thrown on the little green bus, could that rise to the level of being in fear for my life.........?)

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uhhhhh? How's about NOW!

Use the "proper" form, which, I'm now convinced, is the VA Form #21-526EZ.

Larry,

His profile shows he is currently 30 percent SC'd, so no 21-526 - he needs to file the claim

request on a 21-4138 or just a piece of paper.

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Hi All,

I'm taking a variety of prescription medications for PTSD (for sleep, depression). My treatments are on a out-patient basis at a local VA Mental health facility for the last six months. At what point do I file a claim for PTSD?

Thank You All for your Service,

rjalexjr

RJALEXJR,

Welcome to Hadit.

Please, when you have a question - please pick the Forum that your question would fall under and start your own topic thread.

carlie

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Larry,

His profile shows he is currently 30 percent SC'd, so no 21-526 - he needs to file the claim

request on a 21-4138 or just a piece of paper.

No, I have to differ with you on this............the form that I am speaking of is the 21-526"EZ" form, titled "Fully Developed Claim", and, it is, actually, for folks that have already turned in the 21-526 LONNNNG form (how many pages........16 or 26, heck I'd have to look at one.....).

I turned in a 21-526EZ to the Waco Regional Office about three weeks ago..................the veteran has already been scheduled for his C&P for PTSD..........and, he is a veteran that has been receiving service-connected compensation for about 10 years.

BTW, the 21-526EZ is three pages.

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Larry,

Dang, this one got me. After reading your last post I actually, finally, pulled up a 21-526EZ and took

a gander at it. I think you are 100 percent right as this form can also be used for secondary and much more.

Does the vet submitting a 21-526EZ have to use a rep ?

Can an Original Claim for SC be done on the 21-526EZ ?

Thanks for setting me in line on this.

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Larry,

Dang, this one got me. After reading your last post I actually, finally, pulled up a 21-526EZ and took

a gander at it. I think you are 100 percent right as this form can also be used for secondary and much more.

Does the vet submitting a 21-526EZ have to use a rep ? Well, I would say that IF you are fortunate enough to have a GOOD vet rep, then, YES..........for the simple reason that you NEED very much to have a COMPLETE claim, and a good rep will KNOW what is a complete claim and how to build one.

Can an Original Claim for SC be done on the 21-526EZ ? I do not know. Seriously, I don't. I don't see how the VA can get all the necessary information from the "EZ" form. And, by that I mean your dependents info, stuff like that. I don't know if they would just go ahead and "work" the claim with the information that is on the "EZ" form, and, if the claim is granted, then they could gather what OTHER information that would be needed? There is, obviously, a bunch of crap on the LONG form (21-526) that is NOT needed in about 98% of the claims, and I'm speaking of original claims here. I haven't had the opportunity to start a really new, serious, claim in a couple of weeks (I've been having some troubles with MY service-connected disability, and haven't gotten out much the last couple weeks, been taking too much "medication" to be runnin' up and down the highway). Anyway, anybody here want to give it a try? I wouldn't guarantee the outcome.........but, then, I never do!

Thanks for setting me in line on this. You're welcome carlie...........it is just a discovery that I made..........and, I didn't know if filling one out would be any different than using the 21-4138 or doing it by long-hand, or whatever.............until my vet called me and said: "HEY, LARRY, I just got CALLED for a C&P for my PTSD claim that we turned in LAST WEEK! Yup, I'd have to say, that there is a damn-sight better than ANY other results that I've gotten from the VA, oh, say, in the last SIX YEARS!

I'm tired, girl, I think I'm gonna nod off for a while!

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