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I have been helping a friend with his claim. All has gone well up to this point. My friend has had his C&P exams ( PTSD, Hearing, and agent orange exposure ). We obtained a copy of all the C&P exams, and were pleased with what the examiners had to report ( verified PTSD, hearing loss, etc...). We filed his claim in October 2005. C&P exams were conducted in March 06. We called the 800 number to get an up date on the claim in April 06. Person at the 800 number said the claim had been " sent for final review--call back in 30 days" ( which was on the 26th of May---we called ). Person at the 800 number that we spoke to on the 26th of May--the 30 day window ( yesterday ), now advises that the claim has been sent to the " MILITARY UNIT " for review/verification. Since I have not seen this term ( MILITARY UNIT ) before in the decision making process nor have I ever seen it here on Hadit, can anybody verify this process or termenology?

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Typical runaround from the 800#. Makes me wonder why I ever call that number!

I haven't heard of that either, but it stands to reason that it means they are verifying AO exposure somehow. (But the "claim" wouldn't be sent there.) One would think that would be one of the first things done, but with the VA, it's hard to figure out the rhyme or reason for the order in which they process a claim.

Who knows, it might be their new code for those who work at home.

Don't mean to be smug or discount your legitimate question, it just came to mind. B) Someone else threw out a new term recently: triage. What's going on! Maybe hadit is making us too smart and they are trying to confuse us.

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Tanker- you said his PTSD was 'verified' but do you mean diagnosed and documented?

I am thinking, unless he had combat decorations,(like PH, CAR etc ) that they are verifying his stressors by checking with CURR- would that make sense in his case?

(CURR -Joint Armed Services Center for Unit Records Research)

They would look up his military unit's history,after action reports, etc- to determine if his stressors are consistent with his unit's involvement in the war.

They might be even checking the unit history for the hearing loss part of claim too unless his inservice MOS clearly indicated this as occupational factor.

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All that has to be done to verify AO exposure for most vets is proof of service (boots on the ground) in Vietnam. PTSD is another story.

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Tanker- you said his PTSD was 'verified' but do you mean diagnosed and documented?

I am thinking, unless he had combat decorations,(like PH, CAR etc ) that they are verifying his stressors by checking with CURR- would that make sense in his case?

(CURR -Joint Armed Services Center for Unit Records Research)

They would look up his military unit's history,after action reports, etc- to determine if his stressors are consistent with his unit's involvement in the war.

They might be even checking the unit history for the hearing loss part of claim too unless his inservice MOS clearly indicated this as occupational factor.

Thanks for the quick input. We provided afteractions report(s), DD214 indicating time in Viet Nam, maps of a particular battle--along with date of same, copy of dailey journal with radio reports ( of the named battle ) other units involved, etc... His PTSD has definately been diagnosed and documented ( per the C&P exam, and he is currently under care at the VA hospital for same--out patient ). His hearing loss is a no brainer--they ( VA ) have issued hearing aides, and there is NO discharge hearing examination in his records, only his ENTRANCE INTO the service examination. His current hearing test performed by the VA is well below the standard at the time of his entrance. With nothing to compare it to at time of discharge, I feel like they are up a creek on the hearing issue. His MOS was 11E. He was my tank driver/loader. Ref the agent orange: blood clots, diabetes. Believe his case is well supported , I just wanted to feel confortable with the quote from the 800 number reference " MILITARY UNIT " checking/verifing.

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I agree. VA is verifying the claimed stressors for PTSD. Does the veteran have a Purple Heart, Combat Infantryman Badge, or Bronze Star with V for valor or higher?

Tanker- you said his PTSD was 'verified' but do you mean diagnosed and documented?

I am thinking, unless he had combat decorations,(like PH, CAR etc ) that they are verifying his stressors by checking with CURR- would that make sense in his case?

(CURR -Joint Armed Services Center for Unit Records Research)

They would look up his military unit's history,after action reports, etc- to determine if his stressors are consistent with his unit's involvement in the war.

They might be even checking the unit history for the hearing loss part of claim too unless his inservice MOS clearly indicated this as occupational factor.

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Tanker

I never got a discharge medical examination of any kind that I remember and nothing is in my files.

How did the Army get away with that. I know I was just anxious to get the heck out of there.

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Tanker –

If he doesn’t have an 11 series MOS, a CIB/CMB, Bronze Star with V, Silver Star, or Purple Heart, VA will send the claim to the military historians for verification. The turnaround there is currently a year. Otherwise, if he is considered a “veteran who served in combat against the enemy,” VA must take his word if it is “satisfactory” – i.e. credible – and consistent with the circumstances of his service. Alex

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I never got a discharge medical examination of any kind that I remember and nothing is in my files.

How did the Army get away with that. I know I was just anxious to get the heck out of there.

John999,

is it possible you are a deserter and dont know it? LMAO

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Tanker –

If he doesn’t have an 11 series MOS, a CIB/CMB, Bronze Star with V, Silver Star, or Purple Heart, VA will send the claim to the military historians for verification. The turnaround there is currently a year. Otherwise, if he is considered a “veteran who served in combat against the enemy,” VA must take his word if it is “satisfactory” – i.e. credible – and consistent with the circumstances of his service. Alex

Alex,

My buddie's MOS was 11E ( tank driver/loader ). His DD214 documents MOS as well as time in Nam. No awards other than unit awards received while serving with unit in Nam ( northern I Corps ) Looks like we will have to wait it out for the next year while they verify, although we did include the rearch ( copies of after actions report, lessons learned, etc...) If anybody has an idea how to push the antisipated one year wait while they verify, please advise.

Thanks for everybodys input

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Tanker

I never got a discharge medical examination of any kind that I remember and nothing is in my files.

How did the Army get away with that. I know I was just anxious to get the heck out of there.

John999,

Lots of guys were anxious to get out, however the military was supposed to give everyone a discharge examination. Perhaps you did get one but just do not remember. In my case, I reported for the discharge examination, the medic/doctor in charge announced to the entire group " anybody who thinks they have a problem ( medical ) get in line 1, those who think they do not have a problem get in line 2". Those who got in line 1 were informed that they would have to stay a couple of days past their original discharge date while they were tested/treated for problems. Those in line 2 ( those with " no problems " would get out on time ( discharge date ). Needless to say line 1 went down to almost none, while line 2 grew to almost the entire group. Everybody wanted out. If you did not receive a discharge examination ( and there is not one in your file), I would think that anything that needs a base line as compared to today ( example hearing --is it better than, worse than, same as ) when discharged, then the VA would have a hard time turning down claim. I'am sure ther are other things besides hearing---this is just an example.

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I would swear that I did not have an exit exam but when I filed for Tinnitus and hearing loss the exit exam showed hearing loss. Kinda of a suprise to me. I was artillery so hearing loss was sorta a given. Terry Sturgis

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