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well, i am obese secondary to PTSD. just wondered if anyone else has the glorious pleasure to have that, too. i've tried everything and i mean everything to lose the weight. it all seemed to work for a while and then nothing but gaining once again. no, i didnt stop the routine or programs, my body just seemed to revolt. now, im limited on my exercising due to a blown knee. i mean, i can still walk but hurts like hell! soooooo, what i am going the long way about is....if anyone has been in a similar situation, have u ever successfully got any help (preferrably non surgical) with your weight? all they say is "keep exercising!" i just want to scream out "really? did u miss that whole freaking section on MRI, orthopaedics, custom knee brace? how about the acl damage, medial & lateral meniscus tears? exactly how do u suggest exercising?" but ultimately, i know they r only saying what immediately pops into their mind and i know they r seriously overwhelmed. that would be why i come to my old faithful crew here :)

any success stories? insight? suggestions?

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So you are saying that you are service connected for obesity? I thought that was uncompensatable via VA standards, even if it exhists. Maybe aquatic exercise would be enjoyable and easier on your body. I'm in the same boat man...I'm just curious about it being connected. I too am obese cuz of my PTSD...its emabarassing and I usually don't mention it. Anymore info you can share, I know I would appreciate. I am not familiar with your case, so please bear with me. Stay motivated...baby steps.

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So you are saying that you are service connected for obesity? I thought that was uncompensatable via VA standards, even if it exhists. Maybe aquatic exercise would be enjoyable and easier on your body. I'm in the same boat man...I'm just curious about it being connected. I too am obese cuz of my PTSD...its emabarassing and I usually don't mention it. Anymore info you can share, I know I would appreciate. I am not familiar with your case, so please bear with me. Stay motivated...baby steps.

not sure if it is compensatable but it is secondary to my ptsd. i have ptsd due to mst. and apparently from the air show disaster @ ramstein but i havent added that to my claim and probably wont. and yes, ur right - it is embarrassing. when it comes up that i am a vet, the looks i get first bcuz i am a mom/housewife/etc then bcuz of my weight can be unbearable at times. it hurts my pride, i wont lie. it seems to me if it is at least a secondary condition then the VA would help some how. even if it was to simply change my meds (i know, not so simple at times) i would be happy. i dont eat a bunch of crap, i still follow weight watcher meals and such but i gain instead of lose.

i do swim a few times a week but i guess the way my knee is damaged makes it hurt sometimes. feels like its "catching" or the knee cap is popping out. but, im sticking it out. just thought someone else may have a little more insight. and if there is anything else i can answer for u about the obesity, plz pm me. im by no means an expert but can tell u how mine was handled.

thx!!

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How do you show nexus of your obesity as secondary to PTSD? Is there medical literature that explains how this happens? Have you actually filed such a claim? Obesity is not compensable as far as I know. PTSD vets drink and take drugs but those things are not compensable. Does the VA admit there is a link between obesity and PTSD?

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How do you show nexus of your obesity as secondary to PTSD? Is there medical literature that explains how this happens? Have you actually filed such a claim? Obesity is not compensable as far as I know. PTSD vets drink and take drugs but those things are not compensable. Does the VA admit there is a link between obesity and PTSD?

i went to the nutritionist for over a year w/ no change in my weight except going up. it was well documented thru that. oh, and also, after my MST, i was anorexic & over time recovered and started gaining weight rapidly. that was documented in my smr's. as for showing a nexus, other than medical records, i didnt have to show or prove anything. and yes, i filed it. i said in my original post that it was secondary to ptsd. i didnt put it on the paperwork, the vso helping me put it on there and it was awarded. maybe it was luck of the draw, i dont know. all i know is that it is on my award letter and i am 70% compensation for ptsd. however u wanna chalk it up, its on there. as for the va admitting there is a link btwn the 2, it has never been discussed with me. civilian wise, yes it has been proven to be linked.

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How do you show nexus of your obesity as secondary to PTSD? Is there medical literature that explains how this happens? Have you actually filed such a claim? Obesity is not compensable as far as I know. PTSD vets drink and take drugs but those things are not compensable. Does the VA admit there is a link between obesity and PTSD?

hold on...just crossed my mind. are you attacking me or inquiring? i feel kinda like im being attacked. i have no problem scanning my letter and showing you its on there.

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EVERY doctor I've discussed this with tells me the less you move around

or exercise - the less food/ fats/ sugars and calories you should consume

or you will gain weight.

The meds that MAY lead to weight gain - themselves -

do not produce the side effects of weight gain,

the side effect of weight gain from meds is because the meds may relax you or help you sleep better - therefore you do not

move around as much - and as for steroid meds they surely have a side effect of increasing your

appetite. also some meds certainly effect our metabolism.

clw,

How about doing me a favor - could you call the VA 800 number

and ask them under what Diagnostic Code are you service connected

for obesity under as secondary to your SC'd PTSD.

I would appreciate that.

carlie

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EVERY doctor I've discussed this with tells me the less you move around

or exercise - the less food/ fats/ sugars and calories you should consume

or you will gain weight.

The meds that MAY lead to weight gain - themselves -

do not produce the side effects of weight gain,

the side effect of weight gain from meds is because the meds may relax you or help you sleep better - therefore you do not

move around as much - and as for steroid meds they surely have a side effect of increasing your

appetite. also some meds certainly effect our metabolism.

clw,

How about doing me a favor - could you call the VA 800 number

and ask them under what Diagnostic Code are you service connected

for obesity under as secondary to your SC'd PTSD.

I would appreciate that.

carlie

dont mind at all but obviously will have to be next week. but again, i have to say that i feel as if i am being attacked. i was simply asking for insight and guidance. didnt mean to open a taboo can of worms.

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clw,

No taboo can of worms but if we don't know what diagnostic code obesity, secondary to PTSD

was granted under - it would be a more difficult claim for anyone to submit, so you could help

make this possibility easier for others.

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The can of worms is your by claiming to have a rating for obesity. Obesity may be one of the side effects of your PTSD, but it is not a ratable disability. If it was every vet over age 60 would be rated for it some way or other. Every vet with a physical disability that restricts their activites would have a separate rating for obesity and they don't. In fact, the VA usually blames veteran's disabilites on being obese. You got a rating of 70% for MST/PTSD and not for obesity. The doctor may have thrown that in there but that is a symptom of PTSD like substance abuse. You don't get rated for substance abuse. When you say things that are not actually true in a legal sense it confuses people.

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The can of worms is your by claiming to have a rating for obesity. Obesity may be one of the side effects of your PTSD, but it is not a ratable disability. If it was every vet over age 60 would be rated for it some way or other. Every vet with a physical disability that restricts their activites would have a separate rating for obesity and they don't. In fact, the VA usually blames veteran's disabilites on being obese. You got a rating of 70% for MST/PTSD and not for obesity. The doctor may have thrown that in there but that is a symptom of PTSD like substance abuse. You don't get rated for substance abuse. When you say things that are not actually true in a legal sense it confuses people.

u know john, i have come here for guidance and support for about a year. and now, u have certainly made me feel so unwelcomed, i cant even describe it. i am not a confrontational person so with that said....i know what my award letter says. and i understand what u are saying. but i will not sit here and be called a liar such as u are doing. so, without getting ugly or nasty, i say good bye to this website. i will not be back for anything no matter how down and out i get, no matter how much i need help with a damn thing. thx so much for turning on me like u did. what's one more kick in the ass when the military has already beat u down for so long. not only that, but u have no idea where i am in my life with this whole ptsd thing. u never know how close someone is to healing or jumping. 'preciate it...

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Well now, this thread turned into a heck of a mess. The member was just asking for help and idea's to help with her obesity, she stated the facts as she understood them for her service connection.

This post was not a question about whether it could be service connected or not, just was looking for some support on losing weight.

True that obesity is not in the rating schedule, however there is plenty written about the two being connected http://goo.gl/SEI6

Now clw4514 has quit the forum, John999 I understand the point you were trying to make, but I do think you were a bit rough on this member. Carlie was trying to get the member to post the diagnostic code so it would help other veterans in the same situation.

The member stated several times they felt attacked, that should never be the case. Maybe it is on the veterans award letter, maybe the member misread it, the point is the member wasn't making a point about service connected obesity secondary to PTSD, just asking for advice and support on exercising.

I'm sorry to lose this member.

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I slowly got bigger and bigger when I finally went IU in 2004 at that time I was 248 lbs 6 foot and in the next 5 years I grew to 297 lbs...(border line diabetic I was more and more winded now I am sitting here typing this and I weigh 226 lbs... so how did it do it your asking... as I live in the Philippines I was able to get a very reasonable price on a Vertical banding they call it stomach staple they don’t move anything or reroute anything just make your tummy smaller so I get full very easy.... At the same time I had a stomach hernia a very very very large one and I got both operations at the same time... Best thing I ever did for myself... the va was suppose to do the hernia but they stalled and stalled and i finally said i am moving from oregon to the Philippines in 2004 ...Next question everyone wants to know how much??? cost my about 6,000 dollars for both operations if I was only getting the staple one it would of been 5,000 and that included the hospital and all doctors.. I am still not anywhere close to a buff stud but hey for a 59 year old I am not bad... all of my siblings have a weight problem so I think mine was not related to anything but eating too much and to often...

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Many of the side affects of the meds we take can cause weight gain.

I hope that our lost member returns but the basic miscommunication as I look at this thread is she was asking if getting obese could be linked to PTSD? A very legitimate question in my opinion.

Robert congratulations I hear that type of barriatic surgery is supposed to be the best as it suppresses hunger after the surgery.

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u know john, i have come here for guidance and support for about a year. and now, u have certainly made me feel so unwelcomed, i cant even describe it. i am not a confrontational person so with that said....i know what my award letter says. and i understand what u are saying. but i will not sit here and be called a liar such as u are doing. so, without getting ugly or nasty, i say good bye to this website. i will not be back for anything no matter how down and out i get, no matter how much i need help with a damn thing. thx so much for turning on me like u did. what's one more kick in the ass when the military has already beat u down for so long. not only that, but u have no idea where i am in my life with this whole ptsd thing. u never know how close someone is to healing or jumping. 'preciate it...

CHeck this one out CLW. Here is a win . Hang in there. You have my support.

http://www4.va.gov/vetapp03/files/0314075.txt

Jbasser

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If this is the case then VA should be willing to pay for lapband or gastric by-pass surgery. Since morbid obesity is a dire health hazard the VA should pay for the surgery. I wonder if they have ever paid for it?

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yes they do pay for gastric bypass

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how does a veteran get the VA to pay for gastric bypass? just curious.....

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The next question would be would you really want the VA to be the ones who do your gastric by-pass? Do you want a medical student with his hands in your guts?

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The next question would be would you really want the VA to be the ones who do your gastric by-pass? Do you want a medical student with his hands in your guts?

They will not due the gastric by-pass themselves. This is one procedure they will send you out to some one in the local area medical field that specializes in that procedure.

They will pay that hospital/doctor.

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I am sure you have to meet some criteria to get the by-pass. I see a hell of a lot of very obese people at the VAMC.

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