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I am trying to help my father with his disability claim for Parkinsons. Dad was in the Air Force at Naha, Okinawa from 1960 - 1963 and was flying security clearance missions to vietnam in C130's with the 21st troop carrier squadron - he was a flight engineer. What I've discovered so far is that the Air Force kept no records (unbelievable!) and the only way to prove you were in vietnam is tdy orders with your name on them or a buddy statement from a fellow veteran who can vouch that you were there. Dad's papers were lost in a fire 30 years ago and so far I've been unable to find anyone that knew him. I have a few names of fellows that dad remembers but havent been able to find them. I'm new to this board and didnt know if this is the right place to post dad's information to see if anyone might remember him or have a copy of orders with his name included on them. Thanks in advance for any advice. Sharon

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You might want to search for your father's unit on the web. Many of these units have websites where people can reunite. Has he requested all this records from St. Louis including medical and personnel records? If he has no records of being in Vietnam he will need those buddy statements. When he flew into Vietnam where die he land? There are people on the web who help vets find buddies.

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Dad's papers were lost in a fire 30 years ago and so far I've been unable to find anyone that knew him.

Sharon

If the VA said your Dad's papers were burnt in the fire - St. Louis I think - don't necessarily

believe it's completely true.

Other's will probably chime in on this.

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When was he discharged? I believe the AF had 4 yr enlistments then but I'm not sure. According to the NRPC the records lost for AF were Air Force Personnel discharged, September 25, 1947, to January 1, 1964

(with names alphabetically after Hubbard, James E.), w/75% lost. So if he was discharged on or after 1/2/64, they should have them. They do lie!!! Also, if he has tail numbers, of aircraft he flew on, he may be able to get flight plans, for then.

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I am trying to help my father with his disability claim for Parkinsons. Dad was in the Air Force at Naha, Okinawa from 1960 - 1963 and was flying security clearance missions to vietnam in C130's with the 21st troop carrier squadron - he was a flight engineer. What I've discovered so far is that the Air Force kept no records (unbelievable!) and the only way to prove you were in vietnam is tdy orders with your name on them or a buddy statement from a fellow veteran who can vouch that you were there. Dad's papers were lost in a fire 30 years ago and so far I've been unable to find anyone that knew him. I have a few names of fellows that dad remembers but havent been able to find them. I'm new to this board and didnt know if this is the right place to post dad's information to see if anyone might remember him or have a copy of orders with his name included on them. Thanks in advance for any advice. Sharon

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Thanks for helping your father. Look on his DD214, Dishcharge papers at the section for medals for a VSM medal. if he has one he was in vietmam. Also check with the national personnel records center in St. Louis and request all of his records shuch as duty stations, tdy assigments, flight records, medical records, tail numbers daily duty rosters , unit assignments and anything else you think of ect I to was station in Okinawa and flew tdy to vietnam on c130's and worked with an eletcronis clabration team. The VA told me the samething they told your dad when I filed my frist claim. The VA will usually turn down the frist claim you file hoping you will quit. Never give up. Get those records from The national personnel records Center and review them real godd ane get a good veterans service offiicer to help you with this and file an appeal. Who knows he could have flown me out of NAHA Okinawa to vietnam at some time.. I thank him for his service and you for helping him. BTW you can request his records from the NPRC on the computer. NEVER GIVE UP

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Good advise, try NARA-

I have vet's records here that VA said were destroyed in the St Louis Fire!

One vet even enlisted AFTER the fire!

I never believe the 'fire' scenario until the vet finds out if it is true themselves.

Has he ever applied for SSA or SSDI?

It mioght pay to check with them to see if perhaps they have the mil records or have record of receiving them.

There as been one AO award for an Okinawa veteran so best he can prove boots on ground-=Vietnam.

I think the vet used the fact that the C 130 traveling from Okinawa HAD to land in Vietnam to refuel. I will try to find that base.

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