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I am getting a headache looking for info on my husband and uncle, so I thought I would ask you all the question. You are more experienced then I am!! :)

On the VBA site they mention deadlines for conditions for AO, but the links they give to Title 38 don't work, so I looked under Title 38 in the section they made you think it was in and found nothing.

On DMII with AO exposure (even casual), is there a deadline that you have to file by or a deadline that you had to have contracted the disease?

Also, what can he use (besides his word), that he was boots on the ground in Vietnam (couple of hours). He was stationed in Okinawa at the time, but went to the Phillipines first and then to Vietnam. The name escapes me where he landed, but my husband knew it when I brought it up to him one night. I know it wasn't Siagon. I don't think my uncle kept any of his paperwork (unlike my husband) from his service. I know when I went to the NARA site and was going to request my husband's service record for him, it led me to the DD-214, which we have. I know none of my husband's TDY's are listed on it, it would have been the size of a book if they had. Too bad my uncle wasn't married to his current wife while he was in the Navy, she is a packrat, that is how I got a copy of my grandfather's Army dischard and his death certificate after my grandmother died.

Also, I seen if you had hypertension prior to being diagnosed with DMII they will deny the claim. I am trying to see if he can get compensation for the DMII and his heart (he had to have by-pass surgery), I don't know if he had blood pressure problems before or after being diagnosed with DMII.

So my questions are:

Is the deadline from AO exposure to being diagnosed with DMII and what is it?

How could he prove (besides his word) that he was boots on the ground in Vietnam? I doubt they cut TDY orders for it, so no paper trail.

This would be a lot easier if there was a link to the Jet Fuel and these conditions. He told me he use to get doused with it all the time. (He was a jet mechanic). He hasn't had any of the conditions that I have seen discussed (at least not that I know of) in regards to jet fuel.

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If you were in RVN and you have DMII then there is no deadline. The VA assumes your DMII is service-connected if you were exposed to AO. If the hypertention was diagnosed before the DMII it may be the DMII was there but was misdiagnosed. If medical records show high fasting glucose readings then that could be evidence of DMII.

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Thanks for the info. I will pass it on to my uncle. I tried calling him, but he is playing bachelor this week. His wife is up in Michigan, she just became a grandma again.

I know he is having problems with his feet and the doctor prescribed diabetic shoes for him. I am assuming he is developing PN.

He probably thinks I am nuts bringing this up to him, but he served his country and deserves just as much respect as anyone else who has served and if you got exposed to something while serving, your country should help out.

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Severe PN can led to foot amputations so this is no joke.

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Severe PN can led to foot amputations so this is no joke.

Believe me, I know that it can lead to amputation, that is why I am pushing the issue with him. I don't even think he ever thought about it. He joined the Navy so he wouldn't be drafted and served his country and never thought anything about it. I think he is more puzzled by his niece (me) is taking such a concern about it. When I was a little kid and he would come into port in Virginia while my dad was stationed there in the Air Force, I would never talk to him, I saw him as this huge giant!! We now joke about it. But he is my dad's baby brother, so I am concerned.

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I am attaching a map of Vietnam-

you will have to zoom it up and this might help him recognize name of where he was-

He most likely would have been in I corps area around Danang(top part below the DMZ).

I think I mentioned in prior post that he should request his SMRS and SRB (Forms NAV 118) on the SF 180 as they would possibly show destinations or arrivals in ports in Vietnam.

Also I posted a link to getting Ships logs-

Also his unit might have a web site-

or the ship itself might have one with a roster and other info.


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PS to the map of Nam I posted-

I am only thinking Danang as logical port because he was also in Okinawa.

However if he was in the 7th Fleet he could have debarked down at Cam Rahn Bay area-or even further south-

It pays to look over this map real good- this is a War Map. My daughter, a Vietnamese linquist, said the names are very accurate for Vietnam North and South dialects but he might have heard the name of the port or town in a different way-or spelled differently.

Like HUE- is pronounced as Way - Ashau is pronounced by first wave Marines as a shauw,a like a in hat -later Marines as A like the a in Nation.

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I just spoke with my uncle and at first I had a hard time understanding where he went in Vietnam, then it came out..He flew into Cam Rahn Bay. When he said that, I am like...I have heard of that. I sometimes have problems understanding my uncle.

At the time he wasn't assigned to a ship, he was assigned to a unit on Okinawa. I am assuming he was on shore duty, but overseas at the time. He was a jet mechanic, so I don't know if went to deliver a part or to fix a jet or a helicopter, all I knew was he was there for a short time. I know he was assigned for a while to work on helicopters, why the Navy had him working on choppers I don't know, since he was a jet mechanic.

I am going to e-mail him what info you said for him to request. I told him all he could do is try or if he will try. I don't know if any of the records will show him going to Vietnam for a couple hours. He is one of those silent types who served, was proud about it and left it at that. He decided to go into the Navy before he ended up with a draft notice.

I also got onto him about his feet and that he could be developing PN, which is tied in with the diabetes. Of course that is like talking to a wall, almost as bad as my father.

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Cam Rahn Bay- he most probably took a pit stop to use a latrine-(more than likely) and did not remain on the plane during the stop over-

Feet on Vietnamese soil!

I bet this would be documented in his NAV 118 SRBs- Service Record Book-is what the Navy and Marines calls it- dont know what the Army and Air Force calls it-

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Forgot- does he know what type of helo he worked on? Some of them were used to spray Agent Orange around the bases,in Vietnam, as well as he could have been exposed also, by working on the aircraft-

If he can remember what type of helo or aircraft-I could look it all up and that would be more support for his claim-I have a great air power collection of info- my daughter was in the Air Force.

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