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Agent Orange: Alphabetized Ships List

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Thank you Carlie, This just show the large amount of Nary and Coast Guard that was involved in the Police acton -(WAR)

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A friend served USS George K. McKinsey DD836. the ship list show it to be February 1969, He arrived aboard ship in April 1969.

Does he meet any or some of the Agent Orange presumption?

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A friend served USS George K. McKinsey DD836. the ship list show it to be February 1969, He arrived aboard ship in April 1969.

Does he meet any or some of the Agent Orange presumption?

That's a very good question. Unfortunately for your friend, the DVA is likely to say that the presumptive requirements are not met.

The DVA has still not formally recognized that ships can be contaminated for some time after presence in Vietnam inland rivers, etc.

Australia, on the other hand, has recognized that Vietnam era ships systems did not have the capability to remove dioxin.

It's somewhat interesting that the majority of ships used in Vietnam's inland waters were scrapped, or, in a very few cases, had

fresh water systems completely replaced. One ship (a DD) that I briefly served on (reserve training, 70's) was sold to a south american country after it's freshwater systems were completely replaced.

DD's usually were in inland waters such as rivers for short periods. If nothing else, DD's were generally powered by steam turbines, and had to use a heck of a lot of fresh water, even with water recovery systems. Unfiltered river water will clog the evaporators, causing serious problems. Most ships in Vietnam did not have filters that were effective in removing things like river water muck, let alone A/O related chemicals. (Dioxin) The Army did have some filters that sort of worked, but they were not large enough to provide the amount of clean fresh water required by steam turbine propulsion systems.

The process we used on ships that were in rivers, etc for extended periods.

Pump the river water into a "void", a large empty compartment used for ballast - water, air, whatever was needed to properly balance a ship.

Let the muck settle to the bottom, and then pump cleaner water from the top. Pump the settled muck back into the river.

Pump the cleaner water through an "Army osmosis filter", and then into a clean void. Finally, as needed, the clean water was sent through the ships evaporators, and stored in tanks used for fresh water suitable for drinking, food preparation, etc. The majority of these "up the river" ships were diesel powered, and used far less fresh water than a DD.

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Was any of the Aircraft carriers apart of the AO list? I have Veteran that served in Vietnam on a Aircraft Carrier! Don't which one yet. He has Prostate cancer. Diebeties II, and Heart problems. He is being treated at the VA hospital, but that does not mean he is being compensated.

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Blue Water Navy has the most updated AO ships list here:

http://www.bluewaternavy.org/updatelog.htm (I just noticed Carlie posted this already)

Also the new Agent Orange Equity Act has 79 supporters (HR 3612)

Blue Water Navy Assoc has been relentless in try to obtain equity for Blue Water vets with AO disabilities.

He should go through the ships list to see if is ship is on it.

He should file the claim whether it is or isn't.

If HR 3612 gets the support it needs, this could rectify the Blue Water predicament but it will probably be determined by how near many ships, not on the AO list yet ,-were to the coast of Vietnam.

AO Blue Water Navy vets filing claims have impacted the fact that this list has grown.

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