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Devastated, Worried.... Ptsd/all Denied.


I don't even know where to begin. I'm shaking, and avoiding my emotional response as much as possible. I wanted to get some of this down before whatever happens next.

My case decided on Jan 27, and closed two days ago. One year (with last three months flagged for hardship), Today an American Legion person at my VARO was able to read my letter and tells me my PTSD and all other claims were denied. I am 65, so pension was awarded at $311/mo on top of my $702 social security check.

My initial claim went in with PTSD, depression, anxiety, sleep problems, and a string of other claims. I have seen three VA psychiatrists, all of whom confirm PTSD. My C&P says PTSD is "severe and chronic" and "not likely to improve" and that I am "unable to work." My GAF score was 42. The VA added TDIU to my claim.

Everything was denied because they say I was assigned to the FDR (aircraft carrier) operating off the East Coast at the time of the major stressor in California. (We flew back and forth to the carrier) The records show that I was assigned to the carrier as my photo recon squadron was assigned to the ship, but home base was NAS Miramar in California where my major stressor happened. (I was present when a fighter crashed into a hangar, with 11 deaths, 26 to burn unit, etc.)

I had three other stressors while working the flight deck on the carrier, all of which my C&P says meet stressor standards. These were denied because I have no medical records from the time showing I experienced this. (Am I alone in not going to sick bay when someone got killed? This was 1970! ) I wrote careful and extended accounts of all stressors with notes on the impact on my life. I was very detailed and careful.

I am fortunate to have the best relationship ever in my life, and to have had support through all this, but financial stresses have been extreme with bankruptcy and foreclosure. I don't know if this is survivable.

The American Legion person at my VARO says I or they need to find flight logs from my squadron showing my being at Miramar at the time. I don't know if this is possible.

I don't know that anyone can help. But I needed to write this down.

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Carlie, the primary sentences in response to service connection were:

"In your claim for service connection for post traumatic stress disorder, you submitted information stating you witnessed an aircraft accident while stationed at Miramar Naval Air Station (NAS) in December 1969. In addition you reported multiple stressful incidents while deployed with the U.S.S. Franklin Roosevelt. The evidence from your military personnel records show you were deployed with the U.S.S. Franklin Roosevelt during the aircraft crash at Miramar NAS, and you failed to submit enough evidence to request additional evidence from the Joint Services Records Research Center (JSRRC) regarding your other claimed stressful incidents."

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68mustang, I don't think the JSRRC review was done. In my decision they said I did not give enough evidence to do a records search for my other stressors. I now understand that they need approx. dates of crashes/deaths and/or plane #'s, etc. Maybe now that I have the link for information on CVA-42 I will find more.

I will work on this... since I thought the Miramar event was beyond question I did not pursue the others so much. oops. Had I done that it would have been good, as all I listed were stated in my C&P as meeting requirements to be considered as stressors. (there were three besides the Miramar event)

Bottomline is that you have fellow shipmates give you buddy statements placing you at the scene. Official documents will also help. Those things will go a long way in proving your stressors.


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It's all about submitting the correct evidence, Don't give up just get tougher and do more research

and collect all the paperwork they need, your almost there...They do this to all of us, Thank God for

this site!


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After you had said the plane broke up when it hit the water- I thought that wasnt quite all.

I was in the catwalk watching and saw it go over the front=== then the sound of the roosevelt cva 42 ,running over the plane-

"On 26 February 1970 an EA-3B was lost while operating from Roosevelt (CVA-42) in the Mediterranean. The catapult system malfunctioned in mid-stroke, resulting in the Skywarrior “dribbling” off the bow and being run over by the carrier. Four of the crewmembers made the ultimate sacrifice for their country in the accident, as LCDR Blaine Thrasher, LT Tom Walls, AEI Bond and an unidentified passenger were lost at sea. A fifth VQ-2 crewmember, the plane captain, Petty Officer “Rosey” Rozier, miraculously survived to be picked up by the plane guard."


Like I said I can also do a buddy statement if need be.. STEVE

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steve&pat... With the information you have found for the crashes from the FDR on our deployments, both the "cold cat" shot with the EA-3B, and the loss of the A-7B Corsair II, ....along with exact dates (!!!!) ...I can now get records from JSRRC. This is wonderful news for me. This makes these other stressors listed in my claim something they will have to have to take into account. This is hard evidence. They cannot refute my working the flight deck at that time as I still have my "hazardous duty" pay authorization for that deployment.

For the information to send in with my request for reconsideration, I am not sure if I can request the records from JSRRC, have the Am. Leg. do this? or will the VA only do this themselves?

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