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Morning Reports To Help Rvn Vet



I need to be reminded where to get these reports.

My 2 tour RVN :

vet served from 22 Mar 1968 through Honorable Discharge 14 Mar 1971.


NDSM -- SPS M-14 -- SPS M-16 -- VCM -- VSM -- 2 O/S Bars

In Aug 1973 he was denied SC for "nervous condition" -- not shown by evidence of record. Drug addiction -- disability due to willful miscondust. HE IS CLEAN and HAS BEEN FOR MANY YEARS. I do know him well.

He has been VA diagnoised with PTSD but the doc only stated due to financial problems. HOW STUUUUUUUUUPID ! ! Thanks

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Was he Air surface Radar? Navy?

I see Vietnam Campaign Medal and the National Defense Ribbon-Vietnam Service Medal and two overseas tours.

What I dont see is combat or in support of combat designated here.

He will have to connect his stressors with his service.

I think he should contact his unit if they are on line-if he needs a buddy statement.

NARA has a link to morning reports.

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Sorry about that ---

From his DD 214

# 30 - Remarks

His VN Service list: 1st tour 6 Aug 68- 4 Aug 69 : 2nd tour 19 May 70 - 14 Mar 71

# 23 a - Specialty Number & Title

16F10 - Lt AD Wpns Crwmn

From speaking with Mr. Flipper I've learned this vet was at

Counter Offensive Phase VI - July 68 - 1 Nov 68

Counter Offensive Phase VI - 2 Nov 68 - 22 Feb 69

Tet 69 / Counter Offensive22 Feb 69 - 8 June 69

Summer Fall - 1969 - 9 June 69 - 31 Oct 69

Winter Spring 1970 1 Nov 69 - 30 Apr 70

Sanctuary Counter Offensive 1 May 70 - 30 June 70

Hope I listed everything in order but I'm sure Berta and RVN vets will understand all of this.

What else do I need to find out ? I do want to file for the original decision as the only thing he's gotten shows no evidence or ANYTHING - just the denial.

Thanks so much.

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You can fill out a DD-9 or request it and return the form to:

U.S. Armed Services Center for Research of Unit Records (CRUR)

7798 Cissna Road

Suite 101

Springfield, VA 22150-3198

CRUR'S email address: records@crur.belvoir.army.mil

CRUR'S telephone number: (703) 806-7800

CRUR's fax number: (703) 806-7846


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I think Patrick means DD 149 -I have attached here many times-

and as he said -it is at NARA.

This still does not make sense to me-

He needs some sort of paper trail for the "nervous " condition -they used to call PTSD that.

He also needs a current diagnosis and treatment records and certainly something that states more than financial problems.

What branch of service has a three year enlisment ?

In my opinion , you should see his last decision from August 1973 as to the actual reasons for denial.

Those Campaigns etc- if he was not in them physically-nor in direct support-

that wont help his claim.

He needs a stressor. By the way what IS his stressor?

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He was Army.

PTSD Diagnosed 2000 & 2001 - VA doc stated due to financial problems,

that's how I started the post - that's a farce - I don't think this could cause PTSD,

and if so it's not related to active duty.

He has a good paper trail though, especially with a couple of AR 15's after his 1st tour. Prior to this he has all excellent remarks in his records.

I do have the ORIGINAL 1973 denial from PR VARO States Your disabilities listed below, are SC, but they are less than 10 % disabling and compensation is not payable.

1) Left foot toe condition.

3) Nervous condition -- not shown by evidence of record.

Drug addiction -- disability due to willful misconduct.

Right now I'm looking at his letter I got from NPRC that states:

We are pleased to verify entitlement to the following awards.


VIETNAM SERVICE MEDAL with 4 bronze stars;

SHARPSHOOTER BADGE with Auto Rifle Bar with Rifle Bar;

Your awards case number is XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

The Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal w/device (1960) was awarded by the

Republic of Vietnam. The Department of the Army does not issue this foreign award, but does provide the pertinent ribbon.

You are authorized the Republic of Vietnam Gallantry Cross w/ Palm Unit Citation. This foreign award is not issued by the Department of the Army, but may br purchased from civilian dealers in military insignia.

I don't understand OBRA (1990) and don't know if it has been rescinded nor

how it would apply to this veteran. He got addicted to snorting heroin in RVN

on the 2nd tour. Did his complete enlistments with an Honorable Discharge.

Within a month of being discharged he did a little jail time for heroin and was told if you go into re-hab then no more jail time. This happened in PR and I have some of these records from re-hab.

Thanks so much to all for helping me help a vet. I am having him do some of the

work also.

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I assume- (so that might make me an A--) that he got two discharges-two separate discharges- one with an early out-

The second one was probably bad paper and it appears that VA made a Character of Discharge determination on the basis of the first discharge.

"Drug addiction -- disability due to willful misconduct."

What was the Determination of Character of Discharge - did VA say he was eligible for VA health care and compensation benefits?

Or in the decision did the VA say his Character of Discharge was a bar to VA benefits?

Carlie- when the VBM comes to you- study carefully Willful Misconduct regs in Chapter Two as they apply to VA health care and claims for SC.

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