Do Veterans Have Any Rights Under The Constitution?

[Josephine]

Hi,

As most of you know that my claims file has left the AMC to go back to the two psychiatrist, who did the hynpnotic and slanderous lies in the last C&P.

I called the medical center and my claims file is there for the new opinion?

Am I allowed to be present during this review?

What assurance, if any, do I have that they will not turn around and write a slanderous lying opinion?

Trully the C&P is full of lies. Ones that I can prove.

If the the BVA didn't believe me, I don't think that they would be sending it back to them for a new opinion.

The AMC stated this morning, that they use the last physical to make their decision as to service connection???

I called my rep this morning and he didn't even know who I was. Stated that he represents 6 organizations.'

Can you change Reps this late in the game?

This guy surely has no clue as to what my claim is about.

He just said, we would have to wait until the opinion comes through and if it is the same. He would receive another remand to fill out a form 646.

What in the heck is he talking about?

If two psychiatrist were reviewing your claims file, as remanded by the BVa, would you trust the two psychiatrist to do any thing any better than previoulsy.

I would like to be present, as it has been approximately 18 months since that C&P was done, definitely under hypnosis.

I should have some say in this. Does the Veteran stay in the dark through - out the complete process?

My form 9 was turned in to the BVA by the Virginia office November 2004, before I had my first C&P and then transferred when the first C&P came in for rating.

Who has jurisdiction over your claim once you fill out a form 9.

After I filled out my form 9, I had two C&P's and it was two years later, before the DRO finally made a decision to deny me.

Thanks again,

Josephine

Edited October 20, 2006 by Josephine (see edit history)

[Pete53]

No matter where your claim is you can always request a Hearing and in my experience the VA usually accomodates this request in a pretty short time.

To date I have not seen much that AMC has accomplished except to remand back to the VARO. AMC appears to be another place to hold claims.

Before you do anything you should carefully consider consequences. Many here had to wait a long time to win our claims. I know it is very frustrating but no matter what don't give up.

Good Luck

[Berta]

A 646 is what the vet rep will send to the VA in support of your claim if they deny you benefits again.

Hypnosis- only a qualified hypnotherapist can hypnotise a VA patient.

They usually always tape the sessions.

My husband had extensive hypnotherapy sessions with a highly qualified VA PTSD psychiatrist.

He also gave Rod some of the tapes.

It took quite some time before Rod would agree to it however-but once he trusted the doctor ( an incountry Vietnam veteran) he was able to accept the hypnosis and these sessions helped him to sleep much better. He remembered what went on in all of them.

It would be highly unethical and almost impossible to hypnotise someone without their knowledge and willingness.

If this doctor claimed her negative C & P findings for your claim were from a hypnotic session, she would sure have to prove that this actually occurred and that she was fully qualified to perform hypnosis.

[Josephine]

A 646 is what the vet rep will send to the VA in support of your claim if they deny you benefits again.

Hypnosis- only a qualified hypnotherapist can hypnotise a VA patient.

They usually always tape the sessions.

My husband had extensive hypnotherapy sessions with a highly qualified VA PTSD psychiatrist.

He also gave Rod some of the tapes.

It took quite some time before Rod would agree to it however-but once he trusted the doctor ( an incountry Vietnam veteran) he was able to accept the hypnosis and these sessions helped him to sleep much better. He remembered what went on in all of them.

It would be highly unethical and almost impossible to hypnotise someone without their knowledge and willingness.

If this doctor claimed her negative C & P findings for your claim were from a hypnotic session, she would sure have to prove that this actually occurred and that she was fully qualified to perform hypnosis.

Berta,

Let's assume that my nerves, just got the best of me. I had the session, with no recollection, of what went on in the room, to the extent that I had to see the staff nurse, as I couldn't even remember the examination.

Three phone calls placed to the male doctor, who said that I would remember what he looked like in about 3 days.

Telephone call placed the next day from the nurse to see if I was feeling any better.

When I entered the room, as they would not allow my husband to be present. Why? What harm could her do? I noticed the strangest seating arrangement. It certainly wasn't a conference table and the lady shrink did not open her mouth not one time during the complete session. I spend 3 days trying to fiqure out what was said and done in that room. Some things I remember and some things are like a dream.

Any reason, why she chose not to speak?

We can assume again that it was not hypnosis. Why did the male doctor refuse to sign the C&P and why did she attack my character. Why did she change all of my military and private medical records?

Why would she wish to do this?

If you were with your husband for his hypnotic sessions, did they use the old watch and lay him on a bed routine?

Thanks,

Josephine

Edited October 20, 2006 by Josephine (see edit history)

[Berta]

I am sorry- I thought this doctor was basing her negative C & P reports on her hypnosis records of you.

I just felt you could challenge that.

I misunderstood this and I apologise.

I have been hypnotized myself many times and it certainly isnt the dangling watch routine.It was nothing like what I expected at all.

I just felt that you could attempt to knock down her opinion -if she tried to say her negative comments came from putting you under hypnosis.

[Josephine]

I am sorry- I thought this doctor was basing her negative C & P reports on her hypnosis records of you.

I just felt you could challenge that.

I misunderstood this and I apologise.

I have been hypnotized myself many times and it certainly isnt the dangling watch routine.It was nothing like what I expected at all.

I just felt that you could attempt to knock down her opinion -if she tried to say her negative comments came from putting you under hypnosis.

Berta,

No need for an appology. I know that my claims file is down on the desk of the psychiatrist, the male that refused to sign it.

The BVA is doing a full investigation of this C&P.

The male is the only one in the room that did any talking and we were sitting to where I could only see her. She was sitting to my opposite corner and he was sitting to the far left side. Anytime that I wanted to see him, I had to turn around in the seat.

His voice always came from where I could never see it.

The trance or hypnosis is a violation of the C&P. He certainly would never say that he did it, but I feel that I have given the BVA enough proof to prove this point.

Actually, what I do remember of the examination is not even written in the examination. This is the way he did things.

He always spoke in 3 or 4 words. He would say" Tell me about the pool"? " Tell me about Doris"?

"What about your dad"?

I can see myself saying to both of them. " You may think that I don't know who you are, but you are doctors for the Veterans Administration". I still don't know what they said to me, for me to say this.

When I left the office and ran back into the center to see the nurse, I was sure that I had had a stroke.

My daughters and my husband all three say the same things about me that day. They say I kept repeating" I will never have another C&P exam, for the money is not worth it". I do not remember saying any of this.

They say this went on until the next morning. My husband was frightened and called the make Psychaitrist 3 times that day and he said, I would start remembering what he looked like in about 3 days.

That lady psychiatrist never spoke a word in that room.

All I was asking, now that the claim is back with them for a new opinion, per the remand, to give a new opinion with complete rationale and to follow the records only, is it in my best interest to be present when they review the complete records. All of the records even down to the insurance bank.

Thanks Berta,

I sure hope that I didn't hurt your feelings.

I realize that this one is a hard one to prove, as my psychiatric records only surfaced 2 years ago, with my getting them from the archives. Before that each filing was not service connected. This all started in 1978 and the BVA wants to know " What was the real reason for my early discharge"?

Thanks,

Josephne

[john999]

No way could the VA do a C&P under hypnosis and have it valid. This just does not make sense.

This is the usual C&P situation as I have experienced it:

You meet the doctor and go into an office. He sits there looking at the medical notes and records. Then he asks you some questions about your symptoms, where you served, how you feel , blah blah. 15 mintues later he says OK I think I have enough and out you go.

Josephine, can you put your copy of the C&P exam on hadit and let us look at it to determine what the heck is going on with this thing? I have had some awful exams but they were never mysterious just inadequate.

The VA is incompetent but evil I don't think so. They are too dumb for that.

[Josephine]

John999,

If you read my reply to the Financial Statement, you will get a better ideal of what is going on.

I never dreamed that I could get involved in a mess like this.

It is all true.

This is the flow of my Va. Claim:

Filed in 1978 - No service connection, by counselor.

The Va has in my pension that they sent me a letter in 1992, denying me benefits. The BVA and I have a copy of such filing.

I filed again in 2002 - Denied no Service connection 2003

With this decision I was awarded a NSC Pension, stating that you have not been employable since 1983, due to chronic anxiety and depression and high blood pressure.

Denied due to excessive income.

Even with my chronic vertigo and balance problem, I made it down to the Va. Office, and demanded to see my claims file. What a fuss!!!

I did get to see it and I ask, " Where are my Compentency Review Records, The counselor said there aren't any! I said, well those Military Psychiatrist sure didn't think much of me.

I came home and wrote a letter to the St. Louis Archives and they mailed me all of my Psychiatric Records and a letter from the Commanding Officer as to the reason for my discharge.

This had never been seen by the Va. I turned them in with a NOD of the decision of 2003.

Within 3 months, I received all in one envelope. A Statement of the Case - stating it appears that you may have a personality disorder, but this is not the DRO final decision. You will be having a C&P for an Acquired Chronic Psychaitric Disorder. I also received a form 9 to have in within 60 days. I called and called the Counselors as to what to do with the form 9, they said fill it out and turn it in.

I turned in the form 9 in November of 2004. October the 19th, I went for the C&P, which the Psychologist spend every bit of a hour reviewing my claim. As the R.O ask him to evaluate me from 1978 to date. He stated too many years have gone by. I ask him, " do you not have my medical records from 1965 to 1978 and he said no. He ask me if I had them. I said yes, but so does the Va. as I saw them in my file.

This dear man spend at least 45 minutes until he located all the hidden medical records within my file.

Diagnosis Generalized Anxiety Disorder not other wise specifiec with depression. More likely than not that my anxiety began in service.

On November 30th, my claims file was transferred to another state for rating and this is where the trance board of two comes in at, 5 months after the first examination.

The rest is in the other financial statement question.

Now my claims file is with the two Psychiatrist to reconcile their difference and come up with a reason for all that has happpened.

I know that any form of trance or hypnosis is not legal within the Va, but it sure happened to me.

I have a letter from the nurse that saw me afterwards and she said that the male psychaitrist is the best for hypnosis in the state.

John,

If I had a scanner, I woud be happy to let the whole world read this dumb C&P by those two and my military and private records to compare the two.

John, I think these strange things are happening because of the psyciatric records being located in 2002 and by me.

Thanks,

Josephine

Edited October 20, 2006 by Josephine (see edit history)

[Hoppy]

Josephine,

It is my understanding that once you file the form 9 you have to stay with the same organization until the appeal is complete. Maybe they can assign a new rep. I agree with John. Hypnosis sounds like a treatment not a process for gathering legal evidence. In my C&P exams they went much like John stated. I would have the the tactics used in the C&P investigated. If it was like you say a series of 3 word and 4 word questions and the letter from the nurse after the exam indicating that the examiner was a hypnotist, I would have to ask the question if the examiner used illegal or inappropriate techniques during the C&P exam. I do not trust anybody. I wouid not be surprised that the VA let their shrinks use hypnosis in a C&P. That still does not make it right and if you appealed to federal court I would hope the feds would stop them.

I went to Private Investigator school and was taught all about lie detector tests. The results are used for investigative purposes and not as direct evidence in court. I also remember that recently there was a court decision that latent memories developed through hypnosis can not be submitted as evidence in court.

The guy who ran the PI school was a pathalogical liar himself yet he was licensed to perform and intrepret lie dector tests. There are many differnt schools of thought in psychology. If you get a bunch of shrinks in the same room I am sure that they would be telling each other that they don't know the A__ from a hole in the ground or be accusing each other of being out right liars. That is why psych claims have to be worked so hard by the veteran.

The VA has changed the way they process claims over the years. Once your claim was initally denied way back when I would be surprised if they ever read your complete file or for that matter any letters you sent them. They would just stamp it "not well grounded" and forget about it unless they decided that you had submitted new and material evidence. Your persistence and the fact that you got the NSC pension caused them to schedule the C&P that was performed by the two psychiatrists.

Not to harp on this but I won my claim by entering treatment at the VA. MY SO told me to do this. It is not a question of waiting for decisions from the RO or getting a C&P. It would be best to get some VA shrinks on your side before the C&P.

[Guest jstacy]

Josephine, If you can afford it, Buy a scanner and scan your entire file into my pictures or create a VA file. It is so much easier to go right to your info. It is work getting it scanned but after you do it, You will be glad you did. After it is scanned, copy it to a CD rom and put it in a fireproof safe or in a safe deposit box at the bank.

Edited October 21, 2006 by jstacy (see edit history)

[Wings]

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Has anyone ever had to contact the VA-OIG for Patient Abuse ???

http://www.va.gov/oig/

[Josephine]

Not to harp on this but I won my claim by entering treatment at the VA. MY SO told me to do this. It is not a question of waiting for decisions from the RO or getting a C&P. It would be best to get some VA shrinks on your side before the C&P.

Hi Hoppy and everyone,

I thought that I was entering some type of treatment as the first Va. Psychologist had mentioned to me that he thought that I should go back into treatment.

It is my understanding from the AMC that they have pulled all of my records from the insurance bank and if this is true, they will see that there are two other psychiatrist that I saw for consultation, after this hypnotic C&P. I just never mentioned them, for I saw no need.

I have been so busy on how I was going to prove what they did to me. You can't imagine what it is like, and I am sure that you can, to prove that two psychiatrist used some form of trance on you and gave you a C&P. I has taken me 9 months to remember that when I went back into the hospital, that the male psychiatrist was standing at the end of the hall.

My husband called Dr. Bad the male psychiatrist three times in one day, being a Tuesday, but I did write and tell the AMC that he called the first Psychologist on Friday, as I was not any better. The other two had the day off and I am confident that someone has spoken to him, as they made him look like a fool.

After all that has happened to me, I would be afraid to stay in the Va. hospital. I trust my Board Certified Internist.

All of this crap started when I turned in those psychiatric records and the letter from the commanding officer in 2004.

John,

I have everything in a fire proof safety box, for fear that something will happen to my papers.

I have papers back when I was discharged, which I have never seen in my administrative file.

It has took me 42 years to locate my request for transfer from this station. Only by the grace of God did I locate my military treating physician, to state what he did for me and how I baby-sit for him and how I was telling the truth.

To be honest with you, had it not been for the hypnosis, I am not sure to this date, if I really remembered my military doctors complete name and where his family was from.

5 days after that C&P, I sat down at the computer and typed his name in and there he was, with a privte telephone number.

I had my husband to call and speak to his wife, to see if I honestly had him on the telephone. Sure enough it was him.

He told me that he wrote a letter after I was thrown out of that duty station of how to file for benefits. Of course the letter did not make it past the personnel office.

He was under the impression that I was drawing disability all along.

Not true.

$15.36 cents and orders to be out of the duty station within 24 hours.

When I left that C&P, I remembered everything just like it happened yesterday.

I will never forget them placing me back in that swimming pool and trying to desperatly keep from drowning from that high dive.

My life has been a nightmare since then.

All I ask of the BVA went I filed all of my papers, was to please take the time to read my claim and I would like for my case to finally be heard.

I am 62 years of age and I have lived with this nightmare for 43 years.

I filed for early social security and received my first large check of $251.00, because I could never hold down gainful empolyment.

A person with an histronian personality is not going to have water running down their hands to their elbows from fear.

Can't you just imagine how many times, when you wrote something on a piece of paper , just how badly that ink would smear.

The lady Pshchiatrist spend 3 sheets of paper writing about my hands, and then gave me that personality. The one who wants to be the Center of Attention and then she writes how I worked nights, so no one would see my hands.

I may never collect a dime of benefits, but I will bring them down, for what they did to me.

Hoppy,

Yes the Dr. Bad, the male psychiatrist did speak in those 3 and 4 word sentences. I can hear him saying to me." show me how you kick a wall". and I thought that was the most stupid thing to do, but I did it.

" show me your valium" .

I could never see him as he spoke, I could only see her, and she did not one time open her mouth.

There will not be another C&P examination, only for those two to give a new opinion on the record, using rationale and sound judgement and to use only the records and new information that the remand ask for.

No more changing of the records.

It has to be the where my claim is open to 1978 with the VA. themselves stating in the pension, 100% disabled since 1983, due to chronic anxiety and depression.

If I should win this, they would have to pay me back to their own ruling. 100% from 1983 to now and what ever they wanted to pay me from 1978 to 1983 and give me the medical discharge that I deserved.

Someone set out to seek a denial after the first decision was made.

That is the only reason that I can think of that this would happen.

Now that the file is back with those two psychiatrist, perhaps this claim will be decided soon.

I never knew that their was an organization for patient abuse?

You all see now how I came up with that GAF of 40 that day. I didn't have sense of a bedbug!

Thanks to all,

Josephine

Edited October 21, 2006 by Josephine (see edit history)

[Josephine]

Jstacy,

This would be a job for my daughter or granddaugher, as they are both the computer expert.

I have been blesssed that I met my husband in service and he was able to take advantage of the GI Bill Benefits.

He has always supported this excess baggage around. Me!!

I was always told that I would have to give mine up, if I took the early discharge.

I will have them come up and do this. He can buy a scanner for me and they can use it.

Thanks so much,

Josephine

[Berta]

I noticed that BVA decisions under hypnosis did not rely at all on what the hypnosis revealed.

Some were sessions in which veterans revealed stressors but still-if the VA could not confirm them, they did not accept the hypnosis statements as proof of the stressors.

It seems to me that the best thing to do is to continue to go over the BVA remand for anything whatsoever that might still be needed as evidence.

Was the BVA looking for the proof of a nexus?

Does a veteran need a nexus for acquired psychiatric disorder claim?

Or do their personal and medical records from service records satisfy that?

I regret I dont know and wonder why the BVA appeared to ask for a nexus in the remand.

Josephine- I might have this wrong-but it seems the VA denied you a pension due to your income from your husband but they did say that you were disabled by anxiety.

"It has to be the where my claim is open to 1978 with the VA. themselves stating in the pension, 100% disabled since 1983, due to chronic anxiety and depression."

Since the VA itself already confirmed the anxiety with depression-I would think they only would need to have an inservice nexus for service connection.

Did the 1983 decision state in any way at all the cause for the diagnosis they gave you at that time?

Does anyone see what I mean here?

I would not worry about the hypnotic session Josephine-

maybe if you could post the remand again (I will try to find it) we could read it again and see what could possibly be needed yet.

Does your local library or anyone you know have a scanner to scan the C & P onto a disk which you could post here?

Edited October 21, 2006 by Berta (see edit history)

[Josephine]

Was the BVA looking for the proof of a nexus?

Does a veteran need a nexus for acquired psychiatric disorder claim?

What is one? I filed for Anxiety and Depression with headaches!!Or do their personal and medical records from service records satisfy that?

I regret I dont know and wonder why the BVA appeared to ask for a nexus in the remand.

Berta,

I have no ideal of what they want. They keep telling me that since Dr. P. has treated me for 29 years, that even though, he is a Board Certified Internist, that he would know me better than any of their Paychiatrist.

Dr. C. my treating military physician, wrote the letter for me after that horrible C&P examination.

I turned this letter into the medical center with the rebuttal of the examination and also turned it into the R.O.

The R.O ruled for the psychiatrist, because they were a psychiarist, not by what proof they brought to the table.

The proof they brought to the table was a bunch of slanderous lies.

As Dr. C has stated, what is so difficult for these doctors to understand. He wrote the statement. Reported 5 to 6 month headache, since having the measles. Caffergot not effective, Librium T. I. D. with a referral to the first psychiatrist to see if he had me on the right medication.

The medication is right there in my sick bay records. It was an easy call for him, as I sent him his records to read.

Dr. L ( that dumb shrink) wrote in the record, that I saw Dr. J. Military Psyciatrist for a headache, she added

nothing else to the sentence.

If you read his report, he states, I was referred to him by one of the medical officers, for nervousness, headaches and irratability and stated my dissatisaction with the working condition and my life in the barracks and that I wanted an early discharge, due to the following.

That is a pretty weak way of saying that a doctor jerked you by the neck until you wet all over yourself and the life in the barracks was coat hanger abortions.

The Commanding Officer states that I vented my mouth off to anyone that would listen, that the psychiatrist failed to listen to me or to help me.

Berta,

I may collect a dime in benefits, but I bet two Psychiatrist are coming down with me. I contacted the Board of Medicine for New York and they sent me the link to the Board in my state.

The male Psychiatrist may not be sitting too pretty, as he teaches Psychiatry at the University hospital of my state, which you know.

I have to watch out that I don't get sued for slander.

My Internist has written them another letter. He has written 3 and I guess, if need more, he could write another one.

How did filing for Anxiety, Depression and Headaches become an Acquired Psychiatric Disorder?

Thanks,

Josephine

[Berta]

"How did filing for Anxiety, Depression and Headaches become an Acquired Psychiatric Disorder"

That is what bothers me Josephine- how did they come up with that? Because if the claim was for anxiety with depression,and you have treatment records to prove this began in service-I dont see how it all changed around to something else.

Clearly the VA stated you had anxiety with depression for the pension claim.Although that came years after your service they also said it was a chronic condition.

I think I found the remand:

http://www.va.gov/vetapp06/files3/0610341.txt

Please correct me if this isn't the right one.

The BVA states:

THE ISSUE

Entitlement to service connection for an acquired psychiatric

disorder, to include anxiety and depression.

But then they state:

"This matter comes before the Board of Veterans' Appeals

(Board) on appeal from a February 2004 rating decision by the

Roanoke, Virginia, Regional Office (RO) of the Department of

Veterans Affairs (VA), which denied reopening the veteran's

service connection claim for chronic anxiety with depression".

"Then the BVA requests:

additional examination by a board of two

VA psychiatrists for an opinion as to

whether there is at least a 50 percent

probability or greater that an acquired

psychiatric disorder was incurred in or

aggravated by active service"

This baffles me as well as you and I hope others read this too and give opinions.

As I see it- if a vet has evidence of anxiety with depression with documented links of events inservice which caused anxiety and depression I dont see how this all changed around to something else.

I sure feel your frustration and think-if this claim had focused solely on the diagnosis of anxiety with depression linked to service

with a proven stressor- the claim would have been resolved much better by now.

Were these records that the BVA requested obtained by you Josephine-and submitted to the VA?

"It is possible that a

further search for official service medical records might

substantiate the veteran's claims of repeated visits to

physicians in service. In addition, as the reasons for her

early release from service in May 1964 are at issue, the

Board finds the veteran's complete service personnel file

should be obtained and added to the record. "

[Josephine]

"It is possible that a

further search for official service medical records might

substantiate the veteran's claims of repeated visits to

physicians in service. In addition, as the reasons for her

early release from service in May 1964 are at issue, the

Board finds the veteran's complete service personnel file

should be obtained and added to the record. "

Berta,

I contacted the St. Louis Archives twiced and finally had a letter sent to the AMC, that there are no more medical records for me.

The remand has never made any sense to me.

I have no ideal how the " Acquired Psychiatric Disorder came about. This is what the DRO in Roanoke requested of the first doctor. If you note , no one ever mentions headaches.

When I filed in 1978 and I have the proof of filing - the va did not secure the psychiatric records of Dr J and Dr. M and the letter by my commanding officer,

I was told in order to get the early discharge that I had to give up all my benefits.

I filed again in 2002 and the same thing happened.

In 2003 they awarded me NSC for Anxiety and Depression with Headaches. Stating that I have been disabled since 1983.

I almost took the roof off the house, when that came through. I demanded to see all my records and that I went to the R.O and ask a counselor about the Competence Review Reports. He said that they didn't exist.

I wrote to the archives in 2004 and they sent them all to me.

I turned copies in to the Va and was send a SC which said, looks like you may have a personality disorder. They didn't list any of my medical records from 1965 to 1979.

We are sending you a form 9 to return in 60 days and you will be receiving a C&P.

I guess they assumed that by asking Dr. M to evaluate me from 1978 to date, it would be a no.

He was smarter than that. He looked until he located all the records from 1965 to date.

I filled out the form 9, due to the time line, before the C&P. When he made his More likely than not, I was transferred to West Virginia and then 5 months later had that horrible C&P.

There just aren't anymore records. I will assume some were destroyed. I believe it was a slip up for me to get my hands on the ones that I did get.

I located my request for transfer from that duty station, this go around.

I also received a paper that stated by the C. O. Discharge her for Emotional Immaturity but keep it hidden and give her a 460.

Note the date of 2004. I have had my form 9 in to the BVA , but never received an answer till this year. I kept having C&P examination, until they found the answer they wanted. I wasn't denied until 2006.

The National Level of the American Legion helped me advance on the docket.

If anyone has any ideal of how to rid myself of " Acquired Psychiatric Disorder". Please do let me know.

At the R. O it was listed as Acquired Chronic Psychiatric Disorder".

That is why I keep saying my Board Certified Internist is more than capable of treating me. I tried to Psychiatrist route and didn't get anywhere, until Dr. P. He has been a life saver to me.

I really don't even know what one is.

Berta,

I was in Dr. C"s home so much , that he and his wife talked to me over the dinner table and wrote prescriptions for me then.

He worked his behind off to get me out of that place. Personnel Office wasn't as eager.

Now, you can see why I am losing my mind in all of this??

Josephine

Edited October 21, 2006 by Josephine (see edit history)

[Josephine]

. After the above development has been

completed, the veteran's claims file

should returned to the board of VA

psychiatrists who participated in the

April 2005 examination for clarification

of the provided opinion. They should be

requested to review the record and

reconcile their opinion as to etiology in

light of the evidence added since their

examination of the veteran, including the

May 2005 statement of Dr. B C.

C and the January 2006 statement of

Dr. M P.

Berta,

since the two that did the C&P are available , they have chosen to take this route. The claims file is with these two that did the examination of 2005.

They may be questioning Dr. P nexus, because I noticed in his first letter, his staff has made a typing eror and have stated 5 years of psychiatric treatment instead of fifteen.

He has corrected this in his letter requested in the remand. He stated treatment in service in 1964 and picks up again in 1967 and to date.

I am guessing that is the reason.

Thanks,

Josephine

Edited October 21, 2006 by Josephine (see edit history)