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And what about the Vets who were have not paid in enouigh Social Security? Take their comp and they get

600 for SSI.

VA compensation is just what is says, It is compensation the Vet has earned. With benefits at the 100 percent rate. It is not a retirement program.

Also remember Veterans Comp the next time the Rich Congressmen vote themselves a big raise.

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If I remember the rules right a veteran has to be at least 70% SC with a combined rating with at least one of the disabilities being what 40% , and if a veteran is getting 70% before he is awarded IU then her is already getting to much money to qualify for the SSI award of 652 or whatever ridiculous low sum they grant.

Many of us know that many veterans worked their entire life and when it came time to retire they found that they had no more opportunity to cope with their PTSD thru being a workaholic and no job to go to, so their PTSD symptoms worsened, also they found the SS check and their retirement benefits if they had any did not go very far, so some veterans used the system to increase their retirement benefits, I am not saying all of them did it, but we all know some did it, but as Senator Obama stated at a senate hearing about a year ago, I would rather see one vet who didn't deserve the benefits get them, rather than have one who did deserve them get denied their benefits in an over zealousness to save the government a few dollars.

We all know the reviews, the PTSD screenings, proving the stressors, etc that is required before a veteran can obtain compensation, how many truly believe that there are that many "fraudulently obtaining benefits today, are some of the people awarded IU when they are in fact retired, at the time of the award, yes, and all it appears is they are beefing up the retirement, and the screening will probably see some removed from the IU level. If in fact they attempt to return to work at Wal Mart as a door greeter and can't hold the job down, then by all means reapply for IU, some people need to either work or have something to do, sometimes it is not just about the money, it's to have something to do, and the VARO's do not know how to help these veterans either.

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Read this story:

http://www.vawatchdog.com/old%20newsflashe...0-24-2006-6.htm

Folks wake up... time is coming that veterans benefits are going to become harder and harder to get. Our government can not afford to keep paying veterans, this thanks to a do nothing congress, and a war that has gotten way out of hand..

Now I for one never agreeded that veterans already retired at 65 and above should get IU. I know most veterans don't agree with me but I have seen and even helped many veterans already retired get IU for heart problems after they were retired for 7-10 years. This never made sence to me, but the rules say age cannot be considered in compensation claims. 65% of the New veterans drawing IU are over 60 years old, I agree this has to stop, most of these veterans are retired at 63-65 years of age, so why pay IU when they have already retired? Any way my opinion.... does not always agree with the majority..

Hey Rickb54....what is your disability for and where and when did you serve my friend?

Cavman

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I would not have much to say but what about those 500,000 Veterans who are homeless? What about all the Veterans who take many years for their claims?

I am 100% P&T for over 10 years and 62. I don't think changing the rules will affect me but I still think that there are not enough Veterans drawing 100% instead of to many. However like Rick I have not understood how a Veteran of retirement age would justify TDIU but you can put me on record for saying I am against the VA changing the rules again. That is unless it helps Veterans than it is OK.

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If they goverment can pay almost a TRILLON dollars for bush's war, then they can pay for IU for any Vet, regardless of age.

To use the premis of the war as a reason of any kind to deny benefits or cry poor house is the fault of the people who put these bums in office. We have watched this mess unfold for almost 4 years and we have set on our hands with our mouths shut like good little soldier's, so we have no one to blame but ourselfs.

Veterans once had a voice, and once held many seats in both houses.....Its time for that to happen again.

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"38 C.F.R. 4.16 the veteran must have one disability rated at 60% or two or more disabilities when combined to equal 70% (one of which most be 40%). In the event you don't meet the schedular requirements the Secretary must still consider entitlement under 38 C.F.R. 3.321(:blink:(1)."

You can file a claim for IU without meeting the schedular ratings, as long as your SC disability keeps you from gainful employment. I'm not saying that it's easy, but by law it can be done.

This is why it's important to continue to seek treatment at the VA (or private specialist) after you are aawarded IU, or any SC rate. Just because you won the first battle, you have the burden of proving that you are "currently" disabled.

The VA can bring a veteran back anytime they want for C&P exams, even if they awarded you 100% T/P with no further C&P's scheduled. It's written in the law.

Fraud is one thing, but I find trying to save money shameful!

Boondoc

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As a Volunteer service officer your duty is to assist Veterans in filing their claims through the VA. It is not your duty to opinionate and mislead Veterans for any curcumstance regardless of your views.

Several VSO's that I know do just that and need to be canned. It aint all about the money, It is about the Veteran. Why should you worry about the money, They not going to give any of your taxes back.

JMHO

John

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Rick, I somewhat see your point that a guy who had 10% for 40 years and finishes a full career and retires with a full pension and then suddenly develops symptoms to justify IU is a bit fishy. My problem is that the VA will try and throw out the baby, bathwater, bathtub, toilet and the veteran. The people in government who don't want to pay for the long term consequences of the war in Iraq will grab an issue like IU and just beat us all to death with it. I think each decision should be reached on its own merits. I don't know about you ,but I had to prove my IU was due solely to my service connected disability and no other reason. I don't see the VA just handing out IU awards. I do see them trying to write rules to drastically limit the benefit for vets just to save money and for no other reason. I do not trust the government to keep their promises to vets in any way, shape or form. They will use any excuse to cut our benefits so we just have to fight every attempt even if some bad apples get benefits. Think of the many thousands who got nothing but deserved 100%. I think of all the PTSD combat vets who got thrown out after their service in Vietnam and many with bad conduct discharges.

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Rick, dont post moron comments and allow anyone to question your integrity. Im sure you do a fine Job as a VSO. I dont have very much faith in VSO's I use them as secretarys and filing boys to run claims issues to the VARO. After my first experience with the DAV I decided to do it mysself and Have been very successful.

If I was 90 percent and Iu, I would keep my big mouth shut for you may be the first one they look at. You would lose $1000 per month.

You have no right to Judge me, I have not judged you. It is none of your business what I do, I have only interpeted what you have said.

Your agreeing that vets abuse IU and it is only political hogwash derived from a report by some Republican led accountant at the GSA. Our country does not work that way.

It is my opinion that most veteran service Officers will be out of a Job in less than 2 years when the Attorneys take over. Then complain about IU being abused.

The Bottom line is this , Given the negative profile of the VA Regional Offices and their constant denials of claims or low balling ratings, You actually think they are allowing an abuse if IU.

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You know, this is a pretty ironic debate. Basically what I'm reading is that the GAO/VA is looking to establish some sort of "means testing" for IU!

Reading the comments of a few of us posted in this thread ,some of us seem to feel that vets who are otherwise "qualified by the rules on the books " are unfairly screwing the IU system by getting their award after they have retired or after they are sixty . The implication must be that these Vets are undeserving because they "must" be manipulating the system just to pad their already comfortable retirement income.

So, what these guys must want is the government to demand that Vets with service connected disease/iinjury also prove they are NOT financially independent.....i.e MEANS TESTING for disabled VETs

Oh and of course if it hAPPENS that your DM 2 heart disease disables you at age 60, you have no right to get I.U because you are so close to age 65 retirement that you should have no need for the I.U dollars! and are obviously just trying to pad your already handsome retirement income.

Now , as an admitted cynic who has seen the congress time again vote it self midnight raises and have watched our rich elected representatives resist any and all attempts to means tes,t say , something like social security, or to remove the limit on incomes taxed for social security , both of which would permanently fix that sytem: but of course would bring their wealthiest supporters out with clubs in their hands

So what we have here is another fat cat attempt to initiate some "budget discipline" by screwing one of the few groups of people who through their service to their country and related pain and injury are still vulnerable and relatively powerless.

Heaven forbid the budget discipline be applied where it should be, to the fat cats who have the power to get these pricks re elected.

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Oh and by the way, the fact that I was over 60 when my DM2/heart problems forced me to retire means that I do not suffer as much as the guy who was disabled at age 40.

It also means that had I not become disabled because of my service to my country I would absolutely never worked beyong age 65.

Finally, it beyond the shadow of a doubt , means I am manipulating the system to the detriment of more deserving younger VETS who will find the funds are just no longer there for their needs!!!

CAN ANYONE FAIL TO SEE HOW THIS IS ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO BALANCE THE BUDGET ON THE BACKS OF VETERANS???? Check the damn voting records of your congressmen next week and vote the damn anti vets the hell out of office!!!!!

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You know, this is a pretty ironic debate. Basically what I'm reading is that the GAO/VA is looking to establish some sort of "means testing" for IU!

Reading the comments of a few of us posted in this thread ,some of us seem to feel that vets who are otherwise "qualified by the rules on the books " are unfairly screwing the IU system by getting their award after they have retired or after they are sixty . The implication must be that these Vets are undeserving because they "must" be manipulating the system just to pad their already comfortable retirement income.

So, what these guys must want is the government to demand that Vets with service connected disease/iinjury also prove they are NOT financially independent.....i.e MEANS TESTING for disabled VETs

Oh and of course if it hAPPENS that your DM 2 heart disease disables you at age 60, you have no right to get I.U because you are so close to age 65 retirement that you should have no need for the I.U dollars! and are obviously just trying to pad your already handsome retirement income.

Now , as an admitted cynic who has seen the congress time again vote it self midnight raises and have watched our rich elected representatives resist any and all attempts to means tes,t say , something like social security, or to remove the limit on incomes taxed for social security , both of which would permanently fix that sytem: but of course would bring their wealthiest supporters out with clubs in their hands

So what we have here is another fat cat attempt to initiate some "budget discipline" by screwing one of the few groups of people who through their service to their country and related pain and injury are still vulnerable and relatively powerless.

Heaven forbid the budget discipline be applied where it should be, to the fat cats who have the power to get these pricks re elected.

I don't think we're powerless. I think we're disorganized! If we could get a cohesive group of veterans together nationally, get media publicity and conduct an ongoing protest movement emphasizing the effects of past VA practices on today's returning Afghanistan and Iraq service men and women and soon-to-be vets, we could probably become a deciding force for the 2008 election! And if we could let the congresscritters know we're on track right now - we might even influence the 2006 - 2008 legislative period. Whatcha think?

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OBJEE,

You are absolutely correct but honestly I am too screwed up fighting with illness to do anything other than vote against those whose voting records are anti vet. I'd bet there are too many Vets in the same shape a I am

OBJEE

I don't think we're powerless. I think we're disorganized! If we could get a cohesive group of veterans together nationally, get media publicity and conduct an ongoing protest movement emphasizing the effects of past VA practices on today's returning Afghanistan and Iraq service men and women and soon-to-be vets, we could probably become a deciding force for the 2008 election! And if we could let the congresscritters know we're on track right now - we might even influence the 2006 - 2008 legislative period. Whatcha think?
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Unfortunately, I can see our current VA Secretary Nicholson bending over backwards to support the GAO - - when the Secretary should be backing the Veteran! Remember that the Secretary is not voted into office, he's appointed - by you know who: thank you very much (not)!

This report is horseshit IMO!

VA has clear regulations for implementing TDIU laws and regulations. These laws and regulations have been in effect since about the 1960's.

I did notice how they omited the preceding TD is all of their report, except for a single ( ) in the preamble! TD means Total Disability, service-connected to Military Service!

Nowhere in their report do I see or feel a sense of gratitude or respect for the defenders of our Country! Nowhere in their report do I read an honest or humble appreciation for the Sacrifice.

They are talking numbers and dollars, and nothing with spirit or soul. Beurocracy at its worst !! Its gross!!

Let them keep bashing the TRUE and the BRAVE and they will see their precious Government Budget fall prey to their Foreign Investors! Who will fight for them now ????????????

~Wings

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Great Post Wings,

For all, The Press is Powerful as they are really pushing a New Democratic Win in the November Elections.

They are predicting that the Dems will take either the senate or the house if not both.

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Caveman,

I was surprised that you decided to take a personnal attack and question my military service and disability, something you don't have the right to do because you have not walked in my shoes. You my friend should be ashamed of yourself.

Now, I was expressing an opinion along with the article, not the sincerity of any veterans claims. In fact if you would open your eyes you should have read that I helped veterans over 65 get IU (when I was a volunteer service officer for the DAV). Just because I have a question about the logic of something doesn't mean that I would ignore rules, laws and requlations to screw veterans. In fact I have said many times to a vet, " I don't think it will be approved but lets let the VA decide". I was sure surprised the first time when IU came back approved for a 73 year old veteran who worked until he was 65, three years in the army in Germany, retired from civil service, and General Motors, and had his own business. He was not a vagrant or homeless vet, he was a greedy bastard, that had 10% disability for 35 years, and never once did he look back until someone told him he could get TDIU, he was entitled to IU because his service connected hipertension cause a heart problem. I don't agree with" Legal" pork barrow spending either but I bet you would never question me on that opinion!

One final thought..IU as with all compensation is paid to offset losses a veteran has because it is deemed he does not have the same earning power as those without service connected disability. If someone is already retired and applies for IU years later, why should IU be approved since the vet is already retired and not working there is nothing to offset. we bitch about congress and the VA not using common sense all the time why should this be any different?

I totally agree that the system is sometimes abused, but I honestly think the younger vets are more to blame for abuse than the older ones. Many of the older ones could have been and should have been drawing IU for many years and have not. When you had guys coming home from Panama and getting IU we have abuse in my opinion. I think your comments maybe came across in a way you never intended. If so, I apologize if I offended you. I would still love to know your time in combat, decorations & MOS.

Cavman (old vet)

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