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Audiogram Hearing Test!

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  • HadIt.com Elder
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What would this test show from a board certified otolaryngology MD & State certified License Audiologist. (IN PART)

Audiogram was obtained showed his best hearing at 80 decibels on the right side at 1000 hertz, and 90 decibels on the left side at 1000 hertz.

his hearing, his hearing at lower and higher frequencies was around 110 decibels on the right and he showed no hearing on the left side at a the higher and lower decibels.

His Tympanograms are normal on both sides, His speech reception thresholds are at 95 decibels on the right side and 100 decibels on the left side.

His Maryland CNC word discrimination score was at 0% at 95 decibels and at 44% on the right side with 105 decibels and 40% on the left at 105 decibels.

Anyone have any Idea what this means or how to read this? and what is your impression of this test??

Hadit elder member

Broncovet had a Vertical and Horzional reading chart here a few weeks ago...I can't find it now.

I don't know how to read this chart?

Anybody know how?

Thanks In Advance

....................Buck

Edited by Buck52

I am not an Attorney or VSO, any advice I provide is not to be construed as legal advice, therefore not to be held out for liable BUCK!!!

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  • HadIt.com Elder
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Anybody??

I am not an Attorney or VSO, any advice I provide is not to be construed as legal advice, therefore not to be held out for liable BUCK!!!

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Buck52

I was granted 10% bilateral hearing and tinnitus early last week and they made me take another hearing test last Friday....I'm assuming to challenge the results of the first hearing test? They don't like giving SC for hearing so make sure that you check the results if you can..before you leave the test....

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  • HadIt.com Elder
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This for a veteran I am helping him with his Claim a increase in his hearing.

Thanks rootbeer

.......................Buck

I am not an Attorney or VSO, any advice I provide is not to be construed as legal advice, therefore not to be held out for liable BUCK!!!

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Buck52

Any audio test done by an outside ENT or audiologist must be done to VA standards or they will not be accepted on a claim. Check the following CFR to clarify this.http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?rgn=div5&node=38:1.0.1.1.5#se38.1.4_185

You must have results at 1000,2000,3000 and 4000 hertz for each ear and then you must have the Maryland CNC word test at three different DB levels as well. The best thing to do is file a claim for hearing loss and have a C & P done by the VA. If your hearing is as bad as indicated on your test and you have proof that it happened on active duty then you will be Sc'd for it. Also, do you have ringing in your ears, if so you will get rated for tinnitus as well. You can only get 10% for tinnitus. I am currently rated at 30% for hearing loss and I can tell you it took me 10 years to get that. You have to be dam near deaf to get rated for HL.

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I agree with boomer. While these hearing loss numbers are VERY VERY high, the VA audio may/may not agree. This Veteran has a "Profound hearing loss", (deaf) based on the numbers you posted. (Anything above 95 decibels is "profound", and this Veteran had only one BELOW 95) VA takes the "Average Puretone hearing loss at 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000". (Add up the hearing loss at these readings, then divide by 4) Then, the VA erroneously puts the Speech discrimination VERTICALLY in Chart VI (38 CFR 4.85). (Speech discrimination SHOULD be ACROSS the chart HORIZONTALLY, as per 4.85 (b) ) to arrive at an incorrect percentage.

Veterans now are faced with 2 choices:

1. Accept VA's misapplication of 4.85 (b) which makes for a low ball hearing loss rating or

2. Fight with VA for years appealing to get it right.

His speech discrimination scores are also telling. This Veteran has been hard of hearing a long time, because he cant understand stuff even when he "hears" it. (Speech discrimanation at 0% in one ear)

This Veteran should be rated for hearing loss at 70% or more, probably 100%, THAT IS, assuming the hearing loss is service connected.

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  • HadIt.com Elder
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Thanks broncovet & Boomer2

This test was performed by an ENT Speclist and quaflied Audodioligist using the VA Guidelines & use the VA CNC Maryland Word decimation test as requested.

This is just ''in part'' of the test and only an impression from the Dr.

This veteran is SC for hearing loss at 50% and he says his hearing has got worse so I ask him to go to this private specialis ENT (Otolaryngologology) and take a Hearing test, this was the results.

I Believe this test to be accurate and the Dr did follow the VA guidelines set forth.

I ask the veteran to go back to the Dr office and request the hearing chart and have the Dr to explain it.

I ask him to take his last Hearing Test he got from the VA and ask this Dr to compare his last hearing test with this one and see if his Hearing is indeed worse.

I don't know how to read the charts, but from what I have read in the CFR's his Hearing his definitely worse.

...............................Buck

I am not an Attorney or VSO, any advice I provide is not to be construed as legal advice, therefore not to be held out for liable BUCK!!!

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