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Audiologist never conducted a word discrimination test

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Hello everyone, I was rated at 10% for tinnutis due to being an F-16 Aircraft mechanic and claimed hearing loss in my initial claim. I was given the exam by

an Audiologist, but it was only the test to determine the loss of hearing with the clicker and listening for the tone.

They were also very high and noticeable at the start of the tones threshold.

In other words, there were no tones that I could barely hear and then the gradual increase like in the occupational health hearing exams in the military. 

Can anyone else give some feedback or insight.

She also did not conduct a word discrimination test either. I remember reading the award letter and saying to my self she never did that. 

Does this make the exam null and void?

Thank you to all the contributors to this forum who are helping, teaching and empowering Veterans with this knowledge.

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Was this a C & P exam for HL? If it was you should file a NOD, they have to give you a complete audio test to determine HL and the word discrimination is a part of it. There is no test for tinnitus, they probably rated you from the MOS list they use to determine your risk of HL.

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Can you post your decision and bases of there decision?

black out any your name and SS # any personal information that may identify you.

was this a C&P Exam for rating purposes?

 

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 The speech discrimination test is to be made for c and p exams:

 4.85 Evaluation of hearing impairment.

(a) An examination for hearing impairment for VA purposes must be conducted by a state-licensed audiologist and must include a controlled speech discrimination test (Maryland CNC) and a puretone audiometry test. Examinations will be conducted without the use of hearing aids.
Source:  

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/38/4.85

If your c and p exam did not include the same, then you need to challenge the exam on this bases in your appeal.  

 

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I think when the VA Test your Hearing rather for a C&P or just that the veteran wants his hearing checked...They always do all the testing including the Matyland  CNC word Discrimination.

Usually if a veteran has been Hospitalized with the VA for over 5 day period  I think there required to test the veterans hearing...they did me that way years ago.  it may be different now? 

For a C&P a ENT usually does the Exam but the VA Audiologist will do the Hearing test & word discrimination and the  VA ENT  Dr will  perform the exam after.  and just hope and pray you get a vet friendly Dr.

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9 hours ago, boomer2 said:

Was this a C & P exam for HL? If it was you should file a NOD, they have to give you a complete audio test to determine HL and the word discrimination is a part of it. There is no test for tinnitus, they probably rated you from the MOS list they use to determine your risk of HL.

This was a C&P exam for hearing loss claim and was conducted through a QTC clinic. I  claimed tinnutis and was awarded due to the career field. I will file an NOD before my time is up since the test was bogus due to not being complete without the word discrimination test. Thank you.

 

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