Jump to content

Ask Your VA Claims Questions | Read Current Posts 
Read VA Disability Claims Articles
Search | View All Forums | Donate | Blogs | New Users | Rules 

  • tbirds-va-claims-struggle (1).png

  • 01-2024-stay-online-donate-banner.png

     

  • 0

TBI C&P diagnosed Z87.820

Rate this question


mrkman123

Question

C&P was done on 30 march 2016.  Does any one know what this means?    Examiner, concludes objective evidence on testing of mild impairment of memory, attention, concentration, or executive functions resulting in mild functional impairment.  Concludes, judgement mildly impaired for complex or unfamiliar decisions, occasionally unable to identify, understand, and weigh the alternatives, understand the consequences of choices, and make a reasonable decision.  Concludes, social interaction is routinely appropriate.  Concludes orientation always oriented to person, time, place, and situation.  Concludes, motor activity is normal.  Concludes, visual spatial orientation is mildly impaired.  Concludes subjective symptoms that do not interfere with work; instrumental activities of daily living; or work, family or other close relationships.  Concludes, one or more neurobehavioral effects that interfere with workplace interaction or social interaction.  Concludes normal communication and comprehension and written language. Concludes residual subjective symptoms or any mental, physical or neurological conditions or residuals attributable to a TBI.  Concludes, mental disorder of ptsd, mdd, and tbi...  Moca test results, -1,-1,-2,-1.  Total Moca score; 25...  Normal range 26 or greater..   Diagnosis:  ICD code:  Z87.820.. Date of Diagnosis, 1991.     Can anyone figure this out?  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Answers 3
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters For This Question

Top Posters For This Question

3 answers to this question

Recommended Posts

  • 0

The MOCA test ( Montreal Cognitive Assessment test,) is for TBI assessments.

17 hours ago, mrkman123 said:

Concludes subjective symptoms that do not interfere with work; instrumental activities of daily living; or work, family or other close relationships.  Concludes, one or more neurobehavioral effects that interfere with workplace interaction or social interaction. 

That seems to be 2 statements that conflict with themselves. With a MOCA score one point less than normal they might give you only 10% or maybe even 0 %...it is very hard to determine from this brief part of the C & P and how the raters will view the quoted part above, as to subjective and neurobehavioral effects, as one does not seem to interfere with work (subjective)but the other neuro effects do.

And I am guessing as to the rating base on limited info here ....others will chime in as well.

I assume the inservice nexus to the TBI is not an issue.

Have you formally applied for PTSD due to the TBI or due to other stressors?

If so have you had a PTSD C & P exam yet?

Edited by Berta

GRADUATE ! Nov 2nd 2007 American Military University !

When thousands of Americans faced annihilation in the 1800s Chief

Osceola's response to his people, the Seminoles, was

simply "They(the US Army)have guns, but so do we."

Sameo to us -They (VA) have 38 CFR ,38 USC, and M21-1- but so do we.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 0

Dear Ms. Berta,

Thank You for your reply and insight, I value Your skills of perception and understanding of the VA system.  The pdf files above are the C&Ps recently done at the Va outpatient center here in S. A..  The remand was from the BVA, addressing the issues and the need for the C&Ps' have been posted earlier this March.  I believe Your statement to the 15 pages remanded by the BVA was; " Looks like many steak and lobster dinners in the future", or something to that effect.  I wish I was better on the computer but, am forced to deal with learning all over again with a lot of daily issues...  The Nexus is not an issue, as the service medical records reflect the TBI, addressed as severe post concussion syndrome, with symptoms of depression and ptsd....  Applied for PTSD, Major depressive disorder, and TBI.. in 1992, and was denied of course.    Spent the last eight years at the VA being treated for the issues addressed in the remand, and the last three years the psychiatrist  has been trying to turn all of this into a personality disorder.  I know it is a hassle but, could you please readdress the remand and the C&Ps here for that data to help you further understand the claim and its peculiarities.  I would truly appreciate the assistance and will be always thankful for it.   Sincerely, Mark

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 0

I couldn't find the post where I said that.

Did you ever use a different handle (or name) posting here?

I sure must have seen something very positive to say that. If it was prior to 2005, the older hadit board is gone.

GRADUATE ! Nov 2nd 2007 American Military University !

When thousands of Americans faced annihilation in the 1800s Chief

Osceola's response to his people, the Seminoles, was

simply "They(the US Army)have guns, but so do we."

Sameo to us -They (VA) have 38 CFR ,38 USC, and M21-1- but so do we.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Tell a friend

    Love HadIt.com’s VA Disability Community Vets helping Vets since 1997? Tell a friend!
  • Recent Achievements

    • kidva earned a badge
      First Post
    • kidva earned a badge
      Conversation Starter
    • Lebro earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • spazbototto earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Paul Gretza earned a badge
      Week One Done
  • Our picks

    • These decisions have made a big impact on how VA disability claims are handled, giving veterans more chances to get benefits and clearing up important issues.

      Service Connection

      Frost v. Shulkin (2017)
      This case established that for secondary service connection claims, the primary service-connected disability does not need to be service-connected or diagnosed at the time the secondary condition is incurred 1. This allows veterans to potentially receive secondary service connection for conditions that developed before their primary condition was officially service-connected. 

      Saunders v. Wilkie (2018)
      The Federal Circuit ruled that pain alone, without an accompanying diagnosed condition, can constitute a disability for VA compensation purposes if it results in functional impairment 1. This overturned previous precedent that required an underlying pathology for pain to be considered a disability.

      Effective Dates

      Martinez v. McDonough (2023)
      This case dealt with the denial of an earlier effective date for a total disability rating based on individual unemployability (TDIU) 2. It addressed issues around the validity of appeal withdrawals and the consideration of cognitive impairment in such decisions.

      Rating Issues

      Continue Reading on HadIt.com
      • 0 replies
    • I met with a VSO today at my VA Hospital who was very knowledgeable and very helpful.  We decided I should submit a few new claims which we did.  He told me that he didn't need copies of my military records that showed my sick call notations related to any of the claims.  He said that the VA now has entire military medical record on file and would find the record(s) in their own file.  It seemed odd to me as my service dates back to  1981 and spans 34 years through my retirement in 2015.  It sure seemed to make more sense for me to give him copies of my military medical record pages that document the injuries as I'd already had them with me.  He didn't want my copies.  Anyone have any information on this.  Much thanks in advance.  
      • 4 replies
    • Caluza Triangle defines what is necessary for service connection
      Caluza Triangle – Caluza vs Brown defined what is necessary for service connection. See COVA– CALUZA V. BROWN–TOTAL RECALL

      This has to be MEDICALLY Documented in your records:

      Current Diagnosis.   (No diagnosis, no Service Connection.)

      In-Service Event or Aggravation.
      Nexus (link- cause and effect- connection) or Doctor’s Statement close to: “The Veteran’s (current diagnosis) is at least as likely due to x Event in military service”
      • 0 replies
    • Do the sct codes help or hurt my disability rating 
    • VA has gotten away with (mis) interpreting their  ambigious, , vague regulations, then enforcing them willy nilly never in Veterans favor.  

      They justify all this to congress by calling themselves a "pro claimant Veteran friendly organization" who grants the benefit of the doubt to Veterans.  

      This is not true, 

      Proof:  

          About 80-90 percent of Veterans are initially denied by VA, pushing us into a massive backlog of appeals, or worse, sending impoverished Veterans "to the homeless streets" because  when they cant work, they can not keep their home.  I was one of those Veterans who they denied for a bogus reason:  "Its been too long since military service".  This is bogus because its not one of the criteria for service connection, but simply made up by VA.  And, I was a homeless Vet, albeit a short time,  mostly due to the kindness of strangers and friends. 

          Hadit would not be necessary if, indeed, VA gave Veterans the benefit of the doubt, and processed our claims efficiently and paid us promptly.  The VA is broken. 

          A huge percentage (nearly 100 percent) of Veterans who do get 100 percent, do so only after lengthy appeals.  I have answered questions for thousands of Veterans, and can only name ONE person who got their benefits correct on the first Regional Office decision.  All of the rest of us pretty much had lengthy frustrating appeals, mostly having to appeal multiple multiple times like I did. 

          I wish I know how VA gets away with lying to congress about how "VA is a claimant friendly system, where the Veteran is given the benefit of the doubt".   Then how come so many Veterans are homeless, and how come 22 Veterans take their life each day?  Va likes to blame the Veterans, not their system.   
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Guidelines and Terms of Use