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RETIRED? NOW I AM DISABLED?

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RAPIDFIRE

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This is a general question. One that has been fumbled around in my mind for some time, as I opinion this myself here. Do you think it is fair that retired military (with the exception of those who went through Physical Boards and Medically Retired, under 20 or 30 yrs.) should be able to also keep full retirement pay, plus VA Compensation? For me, this is what invokes this question, and quit literally nerves me and I think it has become an epidemic. Military service person (as example), goes on to complete full retirement and then all of the sudden near retirement has all sorts of medical problems (buddy system helps out, let's be honest here, wink, wink) and therefore receives both retirement pay/VA compensation (often near 100%) without reduction (not saying there aren't some legitimate cases). SO, IF YOUR SO DISABLED, how were you able to stay on Active Duty? I think the only exception should be for people who were in direct combat with combat injuries and or people in a uniform role were injured right before their retirement. If you were so disabled, like myself, you had to get out. This didn't used to be allowed, CRDP until 2004; the dual payment. And in fact, was used as a tool to torture people who were too injured or disabled to stay in as a jealousy factor would kick in, my own USMC experience (being that their retirement at 20 would only reach max close to 60-90% VA rating) and my opinion was tort (saw a lot of it with tons of young Marines, and dealt with it myself, even while being severely injured in OEF, blown spine, shrapnel in back, priapism for over two-weeks in war and on ship and nobody/command cared, how could this be, how could this exist, it did, and only because of the jealousy factor). Now, it seems like near retirees have been riding this boat, collecting CRDP/retirement. As illustration, I used to work for the Fed. Gov't, people would come in right before their civilian retirement and claim disability, they were working full-time (40 plus overtime) I remind you, and now, all of the sudden they are too disabled to work. Now, why, because SSDI over SS Retirement Pay is often twice as much as it kicks in a higher amount and you receive it decade or more earlier (plus your pension), if awarded, and likely with an atty. So, to me, this is one thing, for you, I am not asking you to defend or argument for yourself and become exploitative, compulsive, or vulgar-AFTER ALL, it is current law. I just want you to give me a clear conscious how and why this dual payout should be in receipt, and remember, if you are SO DISABLED to work, you shouldn't be on active duty, period. It is one thing for a disability to be caused or aggravated by military service, it is another things for this to effect your ability to work with such conditions through retirement, and if you have had such conditions they would be no severe enough to impact your service length, think re-rated for us who have been through hell with the VA's irate C&P's, rating downgrades, re-reviews, etc. It is kind of like the girls who have fun their entire enlistment/commission with loads and loads of guys and then cry wolf and say they were raped and receive compensation. By the way, I am not liberal, I am a patriot and if you get offended, you are not a true countryman.  

 

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UPDATED 5/28/216

The basis for this discussion is prior to the 2004 effective law; military individuals would purposefully find ways to make sure (under their command) injured or otherwise to receive no VA compensation when they got out because in their eyes, at that time, you would get out and would receive more than them (and I am talking the Senior NCO's and Officers here at retirement), and did everything in their power to make sure treatment wasn't provided, etc. because of the jealousy factor $$$$ get people wrongfully off Medical Boards etc. it was an epidemic. Now, since that has changed (the law) the military care and recordings has improved dramatically since this jealousy factory had been about solvent. Now, anyone who was in prior to 2004 would share to comment about how these veterans were treated prior to such effective law because of the jealousy factor. I think the commentators so far have took this the wrong way. When I got out, I had shrapnel from a round in my back, a busted spine, partial paralysis, PTSD, hearing loss and headaches from explosions/IEDs.......and a bunch of other stuff prior to the 04' law/ OEF. I am trying to relate to others who got banged up, even while in training, and got screwed by your command because they in their eyes only saw you getting compensated, not your injuries (and did not treat you because of this properly).  

So, shouldn't veterans be able to prove that they deserve full retirement from the military plus VA compensation too. Not just the other way around. In my case, shouldn't it be streamlined where I can show, hey I have all the documents conditions right after I got out and had bunch of surgeries, etc. and my command where a bunch of jerks who got off on screwing peoples lives over and look here is the proof.     

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On 5/20/2016 at 9:33 PM, green said:

I'm happy to say that on Hadit we don't judge others but rather assume veterans are ethical and have their fair share of integrity.  By approaching veterans with this mindset we focus on helping rather than judging.  There are other sites that focus on judging and believe that the majority of veterans (new posters)  are looking for undeserved handouts, as such they offend a significant number of hurting folks.  I personally think the environment here is much more helpful and productive.

THANKS................................

The basis for this discussion is prior to the 2004 effective law; military individuals would purposefully find ways to make sure (under their command) injured or otherwise to receive no VA compensation when they got out because in their eyes, at that time, you would get out and would receive more than them (and I am talking the Senior NCO's and Officers here at retirement), and did everything in their power to make sure treatment wasn't provided, etc. because of the jealousy factor $$$$ get people wrongfully off Medical Boards etc. it was an epidemic. Now, since that has changed (the law) the military care and recordings has improved dramatically since this jealousy factory had been about solvent. Now, anyone who was in prior to 2004 would share to comment about how these veterans were treated prior to such effective law because of the jealousy factor. I think the commentators so far have took this the wrong way. When I got out, I had shrapnel from a round in my back, a busted spine, partial paralysis, PTSD, hearing loss and headaches from explosions/IEDs.......and a bunch of other stuff prior to the 04' law/ OEF. I am trying to relate to others who got banged up, even while in training, and got screwed by your command because they in their eyes only saw you getting compensated, not your injuries (and did not treat you because of this properly).  

So, shouldn't veterans be able to prove that they deserve full retirement from the military plus VA compensation too. Not just the other way around. In my case, shouldn't it be streamlined where I can show, hey I have all the documents conditions right after I got out and had bunch of surgeries, etc. and my command where a bunch of jerks who got off on screwing peoples lives over and look here is the proof.     

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I have also revised this in the original post to clear up any confusion. 

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