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First VA counsling intake


So I just read the notes from my first visit to the VA MST coordinator last Monday...Yeah let me tell you I am as angry as anyone could be but all that aside and knowing this could happen from what Ive been told before even going in it is a step that I have to take in the long process of things. here is a list of WTF's in the notes.

1. she Said I was late and claimed I said I got lost....

I was actually early and waited in a waiting room with my wife with me and just a phone in the reception area that said if I was there for more then 15 min to pick up phone. Not to mention my wife drove me there and actually works there so um getting lost defiantly did not happen. I wont even go into the fact that she cancelled my actual first visit because she called off or the fact that she called off again for my last appoint Thursday.

2. Stated presentation suggested significant paranoia and possible embellishment regarding negative events.

Ok fair enough I can say to some extent I am paranoid it comes with the lay of the land of severe Anxiety and PTSD. But embellishment? I went in and told her about the incidences honestly as fast as I could get through them. There were a few things she paused me on and had me focus on and repeat several times because she could not keep up with me and she was writing.

3. She said I did not mention my suicide attempt in 2009 with my subsequent hospitalization.

It was a 1 hour appointment and we never got that damn far in the time line before time was up. I kept trying to jump forward but she kept having me go back to build a history leading up to the big event so how in the hell did I even get the chance to tell her that shit.

4. Stressors: Interpersonal Loss/Disruption: veteran divorced in 2009...

OK first i did not get divorced in 2009  and in fact the same women i married in 2006 is still the same women i am married to now... (yes i am a major xxxxxxx so this is a mirical in its own right.) i did get divorced in 2003 but was separated from my first wife in February 2002 less then 1 year after discharge and told her the divorce took so long because of the waiting period after separation and then months after separation she got pregnant with not my kid and its stalled the divorce even longer.

5. Says that some remote system search showed that in the past I had claimed to be "black ops" and that is why my DD214's are so messed up.

First I was in the ARMY and we refer to things as spec ops or SF, Black ops are civilian contractors and do not have 214's. but that is not the point years ago when filing my first VA claim and they "lost my claim file for 2 years and had to rebuild it" and they could not find my damn STR's records or even my second enlistment. yes I did make a smart ass comment to the effect that "so your telling me some black op force came and erased all my records from your system. But I never once claimed to be any kind of spec ops I was FA and proud of that fact.

6. I get that there was a shit ton of information packed into that short hour and I know my damn timeline was off on some events. But considering she is claiming events that happened on my second enlistment happened during my first enlistment and is linking them to my first enlistment and has things all chewed up as far as the story goes.

7. that I stated I do not take showers because I claimed I was water boarded.

OK first I did not claim to be water boarded. I said that several times I had buckets of water poured on me when I slept and I woke up choking from the water being thrown in my face. I also said that I do not take showers because the water splashing me in the face triggers a flash back to that time in service so I take shallow baths or use just a wash cloth to get clean.

8. Personality Disorder NOS, Depressive disorder NOS, Alcohol use disorder, in remission by history.

I have been getting treatment for 8 going on 9 years and never once had someone say Personality disorder what in the actual F$#@ is this?  I can agree with the other 2 diagnoses with Severe anxiety NOS but that one is just crap. She did not list it in active problems list just in her notes so maybe this is just a stepping stone I do not know but hell I am so sick of the VA dropping that bomb on people instead of admitting to PTSD.

Yeah so paranoid I can def agree to and this crap is why. there is more but i wont make this any longer then it is. this stuff just gets me annoyed probably more then I should let it. it mostly sucks because I have to go through her to get to what I need so asking for someone else does not seem like a option right now. I do not know what to do to fix any of it without coming off as overly defensive or paranoid.

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Can you request a different counselor or go to another clinic?

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It seems to me the MST COORDINATOR intimidated you.

At this exam  did you raise your voice at her  or be rude in anyway?

Sometimes when we get agitated we tend not to listen and our focus is more on wanting to bust someone in the mouth, but as you mention you need to see her to get to the bottom of this issue.

you can request to see her and take copies of these ''notes'' AND ASK HER IN A NICE WAY TO EXPLAIN THESE THINGS SHE MENTION IN HER REPORT NOTES...let her know you got them from My healthyvet,OR from the INFORMATION OF RECORDS Dept, she can make a amendment to what she mention..that.you want a correction! but be nice  bite your tongue  so-to-speak

or seek a private S.T. coordinator for a evaluation on your issue, look up the VA guidlines for this type of exam and ask that the new Dr go by them, but these types of exams are rare and expensive  so try your best to stay with your VA MST  Coordinator  and maybe things will work out?

just my opinion


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My first scatterbrained MST social worker I saw, said my stepfather abused me.

>I never had a stepfather.

My first scatterbrained MST social worker said I threw myself down a flight of stairs in my home.

>Our house did not have stairs.




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Whew! Sunny(H!)

Boy, I'm glad my MH C&P examiner didn't try to say something like that for when I actually did fall down some stairs...

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He he well don't be surprised by the unexpected things you might find in your therapist's notes.

VA must hire budding or latent Cinematographers/Playwrights for MST counseling.

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