ptsd Can you still get 100% for PTSD if you are working?

[kent101]

If you are working but need special breaks to deal with PTSD can you still get 100% rating?

Edited September 20, 2016 by kent101

[Tbird]

kent101 this question gets asked a lot - i don't know the answer - most folks say no you can't work if you are 100% for mental health, however i've never seen it in writing. perhaps some others can chime in.

[Gastone]

Kent, is this a hypothetical question, or are you working full time and think your 100% Disabled due to a SC PTSD DX?

I can't say that I have ever viewed a post on Hadit, where a PTSD Vet with a  Scheduler (PTSD) 100% rating ever opined, regarding anything work related. Plenty of PTSD IU discussions, primarily from Vets with a 50 or 70% PTSD Rating.

When you look at the 38 CFR 4 for PTSD 100% rating, that's One Mentally Fracked up Dude/Dudett, wouldn't you say. PTSD Ratings all come down to the VA Rater's determination of the Vet's MH Disability picture based primarily on the PTSD Forensic Examination DBQ.

A PTSD Vet that is capable of working full time, with "special breaks," would be hard pressed to get a 100% Scheduler Rating.

Semper Fi

[broncovet]

No, sorry.  If you look at the criteria for 100% for mental disorders, it says "total occupational impairment".  Its not a stretch for "total occupational impairment" to mean you are not able to work.  

djustment disorder

General Rating Formula for Mental Disorders

	Rating
Total occupational and social impairment, due to such symptoms as: gross impairment in thought processes or communication; persistent delusions or hallucinations; grossly inappropriate behavior; persistent danger of hurting self or others; intermittent inability to perform activities of daily living (including maintenance of minimal personal hygiene); disorientation to time or place; memory loss for names of close relatives, own occupation, or own name.	100
Occupational and social impairment, with deficiencies in most areas, such as work, school, family relations, judgment, thinking, or mood, due to such symptoms as: suicidal ideation; obsessional rituals which interfere with routine activities; speech intermittently illogical, obscure, or irrelevant; near-continuous panic or depression affecting the ability to function independently, appropriately and effectively; impaired impulse control (such as unprovoked irritability with periods of violence); spatial disorientation; neglect of personal appearance and hygiene; difficulty in adapting to stressful circumstances (including work or a worklike setting); inability to establish and maintain effective relationships.	70
Occupational and social impairment with reduced reliability and productivity due to such symptoms as: flattened affect; circumstantial, circumlocutory, or stereotyped speech; panic attacks more than once a week; difficulty in understanding complex commands; impairment of short- and long-term memory (e.g., retention of only highly learned material, forgetting to complete tasks); impaired judgment; impaired abstract thinking; disturbances of motivation and mood; difficulty in establishing and maintaining effective work and social relationships.	50
Occupational and social impairment with occasional decrease in work efficiency and intermittent periods of inability to perform occupational tasks (although generally functioning satisfactorily, with routine behavior, self-care, and conversation normal), due to such symptoms as: depressed mood, anxiety, suspiciousness, panic attacks (weekly or less often), chronic sleep impairment, mild memory loss (such as forgetting names, directions, recent events).	30
Occupational and social impairment due to mild or transient symptoms which decrease work efficiency and ability to perform occupational tasks only during periods of significant stress, or symptoms controlled by continuous medication.	10
A mental condition has been formally diagnosed, but symptoms are not severe enough either to interfere with occupational and social functioning or to require continuous medication.	0

[kent101]

16 hours ago, Gastone said:

Kent, is this a hypothetical question, or are you working full time and think your 100% Disabled due to a SC PTSD DX?

I can't say that I have ever viewed a post on Hadit, where a PTSD Vet with a  Scheduler (PTSD) 100% rating ever opined, regarding anything work related. Plenty of PTSD IU discussions, primarily from Vets with a 50 or 70% PTSD Rating.

When you look at the 38 CFR 4 for PTSD 100% rating, that's One Mentally Fracked up Dude/Dudett, wouldn't you say. PTSD Ratings all come down to the VA Rater's determination of the Vet's MH Disability picture based primarily on the PTSD Forensic Examination DBQ.

A PTSD Vet that is capable of working full time, with "special breaks," would be hard pressed to get a 100% Scheduler Rating.

Semper Fi

I was afraid if I tell the c&p examiner that I'm having to take special breaks to deal with PTSD that they might try to say I'm unable to work and put me at 100%. I think I would rather try and work and have a lower percentage. I just have to do some yoga breathing every hour or two throughout the day.

[Gastone]

The C & P Psychiatrist/Psychologist PhD, only completes your FORENSIC EXAM DBQ and determines if you actually have a PTSD DX per the DSM V criteria. This is a FORENSIC Exam, any attempt to deceive would not look good. Over reporting of PTSD symptoms, as well as under-reporting, would hurt your claim.

As to the end SC %, that all up to the VA Rater. If your still working full time, for the most part, IU is currently off the table. You don't sound like your 100%, how fracked up are You?

Have you reviewed the 38 CFR 4, for PTSD Ratings? How do you think you measure up?

At the end of my 2010 PTSD C & P, I asked the VA Psychiatrist if I had PTSD, he answered yes. About a month later, I compared his completed DBQ with the 38 CFR. My Lay opinion was, 30% was a lock, maybe a 50%. 2 mos later, Award letter, indicating a 70% SC with an "Inferred IU Claim" pending. Shows what I know.

Semper Fi

[Buck52]

Gastone

I would think the veteran needs a PTSD Diagnose before a C&P?

As for as the MH Dr's

 I suppose it all depends on what type/mood of Dr you ask to fill out a PTSD/ DBQ.

I ask my VA MH psychiatrist to fill out a PTSD DBQ for me to help me with my claim  she flat out refused....said ''its not my Job''

So then I ask her  ok then do I have PTSD she said yes

After that on all my MH Notes it said diagnose:  Chronic PTSD with depressive disorders even From a MH MD (may have been a specialist?)  but it said MD on his white coat.

All of the MH Dr's said that

I used Myhealthyvet progress Notes in my claim, some times they hang them self in writing them VA Notes &  in my case they did and I took it and run with it...the rater used some of them in my PTSD Claim...

So when a MH Dr refuses to help in your PTSD Claim   Be sure and check your VA Progress Notes. &  make favorable copy's send in with your claim.

At my PTSD C&P the examiner mention in her report   

''Does this veteran have a Diagnose for PTSD''DSM 5 She check  X (YES) 

JMO

..............Buck

Edited September 21, 2016 by Buck52