Lawyers & Ro.

[Guest fla_viking]

Dear Fellow Veterans & Friends

It will be interesting to see lawyers who are use to going into a court of law to enforce laws that are being violated. To have those same lawyers see the corrupton they have to navigate through in the RO system and not beabel to get anyone to do anythig about it. Maybe the right to hire lawyers at the VA level wont be such a threat because no lawyer would want to pratice in such a one sided system. I also presume lawyers will have complet cases when they go forward and will try for the ajudicators to spell things out as clear as possibel. I wonder if the VA will take perfectly preparied cases that should be SC from the start and drag them out for years.

I saw on Fox 28 this morning where in those who worked at the collapse of the world trade center towers have very serious health problems. THey have been awarded money by the courts but workmans comp will not pay. The wife of one said they were waiting for her husband to die so the claim would not have to be paid. It was reported that many injuried workds just gave up because they made the process so hard to go through. These people are represented by lawyers to and getting a royal screw. They even have acess to courts and have orders for payment yet the payer doesnt have to pay. The Wife talked about all the econimic stress they go through having to beg for money to pay bills. This naton does that to so many military, veterans, workers that it is a common pratice. They should out law the systems that allow those pratices to happen agianst the disabled.

Terry Higgins

[Berta]

Terry- I am thrilled that vets will finally have this choice to get a lawyer but I also am concerned about things that you have brought up here too----

Next month I am going to start checking out lawyers in NY to see if any are even interested in representing vets---or able time wise-

my personal lawyer is so overwhelmed I don't think he could do this-but will check-

I am hoping the fee will be 20% of any award- and that the fee is on contingency-and only due upon award-

Lawyers will have to wait for their money if it is contingency-

meaning lawyers will make sure the claims do not take forever-

I have it all doped out in my mind-----what a dream!

Lawyers- Having a combo of the methods and ability of Nancy Grace, Johnnie Cochran, and Ron Kubee---- dancing circles around the VAR0s-

spouting VA legalise like it is their second language, whipping out evidence like it is the Holy Grail and

high fiving the veteran---- in less than a year after filing the claim-----

then again---

I couldnt find one to help me in 1997-with my FTCA-and they sure missed out on a lot of cash.

Maybe this time when I call them -they might change their tune if they know there is money in VA claims.

Again though -I worked for lawyers a long time-

No doilies and no files that they have to put in order-

And they can say No too- if they assess that there is no possible approach that would work.

I personally believe that 95-98 % of all valid claims can succeed.

Another thing-I was talking to regional counsel the other day (we BS about claims a lot) and he said in his mind a denied claim is not a valid claim-

I reminded him-a denied claim is either one that just hasn't succeeded yet-

or its evidence hasn't been handled right by the VARO as most claims seem to get granted anyhow-

It is odd-RC knows FTCA and Sec 1151 in and out , and 38 CFR-but the other regular claims process-what we go through under 38 CFR- is not really part his background.

My point is that lawyers are smart but we cannot expect them to be omniscient-they will need our help on our claims.

Edited December 19, 2006 by Berta

[Ricky]

Terry has a good point and I disucssed it on another thread about lawyers. No matter who represents you the RO is going to be the RO. They will continue to violate title 38, the US Code and regulations no matter what. After all who is going to impose the law upon them? The Kangroo Court of Veterans Claims - hahahahhahahahahahahhahahahaha. You can't even use one of their rulings to force the RO to abide by the law.

[Bound4heaven]

Greetings to all,

Does anyone know when we will be able to start hiring attorneys on our behalf? and where do we go to hire them?. Thank you all. God bless and Merry Christmas.

Bound4Heaven

[john999]

The thing about hiring lawyers to help with claims is that in complex claims you hand the stress of arguing the case over to the lawyer. There is nothing harder than trying to argue your own claim in front of a hostile Review Officer. I have gone pro se on other things and it is hard when you own ass is on the line to remain objective about the facts. You know you cannot let emotion get involved in your argument with the opponent. Getting a good lawyer who really knows his stuff may take a while since this will be a new area of law and the attorneys have to get up to speed, but if there is money to be made I think they will be there.

[chief 313]

Dear Fellow Veterans & Friends

It will be interesting to see lawyers who are use to going into a court of law to enforce laws that are being violated. To have those same lawyers see the corrupton they have to navigate through in the RO system and not beabel to get anyone to do anythig about it. Maybe the right to hire lawyers at the VA level wont be such a threat because no lawyer would want to pratice in such a one sided system. I also presume lawyers will have complet cases when they go forward and will try for the ajudicators to spell things out as clear as possibel. I wonder if the VA will take perfectly preparied cases that should be SC from the start and drag them out for years.

I saw on Fox 28 this morning where in those who worked at the collapse of the world trade center towers have very serious health problems. THey have been awarded money by the courts but workmans comp will not pay. The wife of one said they were waiting for her husband to die so the claim would not have to be paid. It was reported that many injuried workds just gave up because they made the process so hard to go through. These people are represented by lawyers to and getting a royal screw. They even have acess to courts and have orders for payment yet the payer doesnt have to pay. The Wife talked about all the econimic stress they go through having to beg for money to pay bills. This naton does that to so many military, veterans, workers that it is a common pratice. They should out law the systems that allow those pratices to happen agianst the disabled.

Terry Higgins

[jbasser]

There are some attorneys that are licensed medical Doctors who have changed their occupation to assist Social Security claimants. These persons having the Medical Knowledge would greatly benefit any vet overexisting the services of any representative either attorney, or Veterans representative.