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Blue Water Navy- can anyone help?

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VOLUNTEER DECK LOG READERS NEEDED!

We are continuing with our project of reviewing ship Deck Logs for those ships that were in certain locations off the coast of Vietnam. We need volunteers to read the Deck Logs and to record the various Latitudes and Longitudes that were entered within the daily location readings and from within the text entries for each day the ship was in the Theater of Combat. Familiarity with Microsoft Excel and Word (or similar spread sheet and word processing programs) is required.

 The purpose for this project is to prepare for the eventual expansion of the presumptive exposure area for herbicides in Vietnam. That situation does not exist now, but we are staying one step ahead of the curve. The “assignments” of Deck Logs are random, and are small tasks, allowing the reader to complete each assignment quickly and to choose to continue or not, following each completion. Your help with this project is critical. Any interested parties please email decklogsproject@yahoo.com

 

 

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The BWNVVA counsel is afraid to bring these actions because “I don’t want to piss them off” [leadership]. My thought is who cares if we piss them off. They have let us hang and denied passage of the Blue Water Navy Bills for at least 10 years. Although discharge petitions have not been very successful in the past, some have done what they intended. The thought of embarrassing the leadership is fine with me. They should be embarrassed! Pissing them off does not affect the outcome of the BWNVVA bill status, because we will lose nothing. We do not have presumptive status. Congress denies us at every turn. Since that is a fact we lose nothing. Perhaps this will turn it around. We can keep begging for our rights for another 10 years, or bring this to closure now. Let it be known that I do not represent the BWNVVA in any capacity.

 

It's not clear to me whether a discharge petition was used in 1991 for HR 566. I do know there was a suspension of the rules to bring it to the floor for a vote. Whatever you call it, the bill was passed unanimously in both the House and Senate.

 

"A discharge petition is a means of bringing a bill out of committee and to the floor for consideration without a report from the committee and usually without cooperation of the leadership by "discharging" the committee from further consideration of a bill or resolution.

563 discharge petitions were filed between 1931 and 2003, of which only 47 obtained the required majority of signatures. The House voted for discharge 26 times and passed 19 of the measures, but only two have become law. However, the threat of a discharge petition has caused the leadership to relent several times; such petitions are dropped only because the leadership allowed the bill to move forward, rendering the petition superfluous. Overall, either the petition was completed or else the measure made it to the floor by other means in 16 percent of cases."

 

PL 102-4 Actions H.R.556 — 102nd Congress (1991-1992)

01/30/1991

Senate

Received in the Senate, read twice, considered, read the third time, and passed in lieu of S. 238 without amendment by Yea-Nay Vote. 99-0. Record Vote No: 9.

01/29/1991-2:26pm

House

On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill, as amended Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays (2/3 required): 412 - 0 (Roll No. 16).

For more information go to

Text: https://www.congress.gov/bill/102nd-congress/house-bill/556

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I responded to this in your other recent thread.

Who are you quoting in the above post?

This is their most recent legislation I know of :

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/299

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Also I just posted the most recent AO Ship's list, in this forum.

I am sure it has already been posted on the BWN sites on line. 

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