College Degree Myth

[Ddsr]

Although there are many that believe Voc Rehab or any college training will deny one for IU, this is false. It states such in the the M21-1MR:

Deny IU claims or reduce compensation that is based on a finding of IU only if the facts demonstrate that the Veteran

• is not precluded from obtaining gainful employment by reason of SC disability
• has in fact obtained gainful employment, or
• has failed to cooperate with development, such as failing to return a competed VA Form 21-8940when requested.

Notes:

• The fact that a Veteran is participating in a program of rehabilitation does not preclude a finding of IU.
• The fact that a Veteran has completed a program of rehabilitation does not mandate a termination of IU unless sustained employment is also demonstrated.
• When IU is claimed following a completed program of rehabilitation, pay special attention to evidence of program results that indicate the Veteran's ability and willingness to engage in a substantially gainful occupation.

[Buck52]

 

''My VRC did not give me a letter and then i continued on VR.'' 

If you did not have that letter at the time you submitted your IU Claim it basically is a claim for increase 

So if the raters don't have the Gold Letter*(as we call it) I don't see how you will be approved for IU?

maybe you will be increase but denied on the IU

Again I am not familiar with your claim or claims, Only in these post of yours recently posted do I know anything about your claim & the information you provided.

[Ddsr]

1 hour ago, Buck52 said:

 

''My VRC did not give me a letter and then i continued on VR.'' 

If you did not have that letter at the time you submitted your IU Claim it basically is a claim for increase 

So if the raters don't have the Gold Letter*(as we call it) I don't see how you will be approved for IU?

maybe you will be increase but denied on the IU

Again I am not familiar with your claim or claims, Only in these post of yours recently posted do I know anything about your claim & the information you provided.

Buck I already stated I have the VR Feasibility Letter submitted with my IU claim. I already have been given the increase. The IU will be decided within the next month

[Guest L]

I had 2 A.S. Degrees and was in Voc Rehab the month I was in VR - Graduating with a B.S. degree the month I was awarded IU. BUT - I agree with Buck52 - it is individually awarded and sometime more based on abilities....... than disabilities. 

My panic attacks - rendered me as non-productive for employment but after 43 yrs of continuous work. 

[Ddsr]

1 hour ago, L said:

I had 2 A.S. Degrees and was in Voc Rehab the month I was in VR - Graduating with a B.S. degree the month I was awarded IU. BUT - I agree with Buck52 - it is individually awarded and sometime more based on abilities....... than disabilities. 

My panic attacks - rendered me as non-productive for employment but after 43 yrs of continuous work. 

I understand all of what everyone is saying, i also agree. My point is I have the VR Letter submitted with the claim, SSDI awarded and I have Doctor Opinion from that stating I cannot maintain employment, as well as a current psych doctor statements nexus she is going to write me. All of this is very strong proof of current SC Depression State. I am waiting for the decision that should be very soon. If not approved I will submit the SSDI evidence as well as the current psych nexus statement. 

[Ddsr]

1 minute ago, Ddsr said:

I understand all of what everyone is saying, i also agree. My point is I have the VR Letter submitted with the claim, SSDI awarded and I have Doctor Opinion from that stating I cannot maintain employment, as well as a current psych doctor statements nexus she is going to write me. All of this is very strong proof of current SC Depression State. I am waiting for the decision that should be very soon. If not approved I will submit the SSDI evidence as well as the current psych nexus statement. 

 

1 minute ago, Ddsr said:

I understand all of what everyone is saying, i also agree. My point is I have the VR Letter submitted with the claim, SSDI awarded and I have Doctor Opinion from that stating I cannot maintain employment, as well as a current psych doctor statements nexus she is going to write me. All of this is very strong proof of current SC Depression State. I am waiting for the decision that should be very soon. If not approved I will submit the SSDI evidence as well as the current psych nexus statement. 

Also funny thing is I was not looking for any of this, it all happened then I talked with other members of hadit that suggested i talk with VR Counselor to communicate what was going on with me. I did this then was told the VR Feasibility Letter is Golden evidence and to submit that and apply for IU. Since I have been terminated from another employer prior to the IU claim, as well as my IBS and depression causing havoc both which are SC. Forward to today, I almost wish I had not even put in for the IU as it is all making me feel even more anxiety and depression due to me worrying about it all. I felt like it was being laid at my feet to submit IU, to get better and take care of myself and son, but now I am feeling that that plan along with the VR letter is all a bunch of bullshit. Either it is all strong proof which I did not ask to be the way I am, or all of this evidence is xxxxxxx bullshit right! I am venting just very stressed about it all. Hope it is over soon.

[Gastone]

On 6/15/2018 at 6:19 PM, Ddsr said:

Notes:

• The fact that a Veteran is participating in a program of rehabilitation does not preclude a finding of IU.
• The fact that a Veteran has completed a program of rehabilitation does not mandate a termination of IU unless sustained employment is also demonstrated.
• When IU is claimed following a completed program of rehabilitation, pay special attention to evidence of program results that indicate the Veteran's ability and willingness to engage in a substantially gainful occupation.

IU claimed following successful completion of VR culminating in a College Degree will always receive Max Scrutiny as discussed above. Ability and willingness to do ANY Type of SGO that would produce in excess of the SGI $12,440 yrly (under65) $239 per week becomes the focal point of the Rater.