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When I had my heart attack earlier this month, I was given fentanyl during two procedures and a bunch of either morphine or norco during recovery. No urge to take more. 

However, the coming challenge is already here. I used to take NSAIDs daily with norco as needed to control my chronic pain, but cannot take NSAIDs regularly any more due to the cardiac risk. Acupuncture worked really well, too, but can't continue because I am on a ton of blood thinners. I'm taking tylenol daily now, trying not to use my norco unless it approaches unbearable levels. I'm not even back at work yet, so I don't know how I will deal when it when I return.

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I do not know about this.  I take pain meds in the lowest does possible to control pain so I can function and sleep.  I am still in pain but it is bearable.  I noted that they are going to stop using

The problem with this is that those that actually need pain medication  cannot get them. I was given some stuff to help me with back and knee pain.. it did nothing to help.. and the VA primary care do

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The secretary's report is worse than "lipstick on a pig".  I was never offered ANY of these so called "alternative therapies" he mentions, (chiropractic or otherwise).  Instead, I was informed by my doctor no more pain meds.  

Fortunately, I have a high tolerance for pain, and, have had a total knee replacement which greatly reduced the pain.  

Just last week, I asked my doc for an "alternative" pain therapy..cbd oil, which is known to help with pain.  No dice.  I get cbd oil on the outside..its legal..but not permitted by VA for "unknown" reasons.  I know the reasons, and explain it below.  No, its not marijuana, and no, it has no "get high" THC.  Its a derivative of hemp oil, and is available at many of my local health food stores.  

     This all goes back to the "war" going on between pharmaceutical companies and herbalist therapies.  The problem is, a plant (herb) is not patentable, so drug companies dont spend millions on research on, for example,  St. John's Wort (an herb known to help with depression issues) because anyone can grow or sell St. Johns Wort.  

     Poweful and wealthy drug companies fund medical schools and teach doctors "the evils of treating with plants  and herbs" and the zillions of benefits of treating with pills sold by the major drug companies, regardless of truth.  

     CBD oil is one such plant derivative, good for many things.  Its actually an adaptogenic herb.  

     Note, the first one is "pain relief":


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@broncovet I agree. Last year, I had to ask my VA primary care doc about the alternative therapies. She didn't know anything about it and referred me to neurology. I talked with them and they referred me to the pain clinic. The VA didn't have a specialist in alternative therapies, so they referred me to a non-VA chiropractor which is where I got the acupuncture.

I was looking forward to the prospect of real CBD oil (not the ineffective stuff you can buy in stores), but after having my heart attack, I am keeping an eye on the situation. I saw T-bird's articles about the VA and marijuana research, but I anticipate they will want to spend 10 or 20 years researching.

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''When I had my heart attack earlier this month, I was given fentanyl during two procedures and a bunch of either morphine or norco during recovery.'' ''No urge to take more.''

Be careful if your on the FENTANYL PATCH 100MD  that is one dangerous Drug my friend. check with your cardiologist about it. 

It is very easy to OD on it.  along with the rest of your medications   ect,,,ect,,,

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The VA has, in my opinion offered me "ONE" alternative therapy to opiods:

1.  "Suck it up soldier, you dont need any pain meds".  I was not referred to ANY of  The alternate's to opiods offered  in the article.  Not one.   

   This does not help the epidemic, it fuels it.  Heroin (an alternative to doctor prescribed opiods) is widely availabe on the streets and they turn to that.  And, I understand its cheap, too.  (No I dont use it).  

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