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Requesting C&P results


jamesriley1990

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So I just had my C&P exam for PTSD, and I was wondering do I have to request the results from the contractor (LHI) or the VA? I am curious on the timeframe because I requested my C-File back in January and it wont be finished until June 2019. 

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It should be included in your C-File when you get it. I had requested my C-File before going to a C&P Exam with LHI. When I got a copy of my C-File it was included. I had requested a copy of the C&P results from LHI, but never received a copy from them.

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20 hours ago, shrekthetank1 said:

I think they send instructions now after if you want a copy.  

@shrekthetank1

Is this a new thing under AMA or just from LHI?

To get my C&P's after LHI and QTC did them I had to go the VA Benefits office and file a request. I think they were FOIA's.

If you have updated info please share. I need mine but since I am in a wheelchair right now from surgery, live on a hill and my car was totaled, I am a bit limited in being able to get to the VA Benefits office. I cannot get to a bus stop, and frankly an Uber up and back would end up being a 100 bucks.

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14 minutes ago, GeekySquid said:

@shrekthetank1

Is this a new thing under AMA or just from LHI?

To get my C&P's after LHI and QTC did them I had to go the VA Benefits office and file a request. I think they were FOIA's.

If you have updated info please share. I need mine but since I am in a wheelchair right now from surgery, live on a hill and my car was totaled, I am a bit limited in being able to get to the VA Benefits office. I cannot get to a bus stop, and frankly an Uber up and back would end up being a 100 bucks.

I should have clarified this.  I got a copy emailed to me from LHI.  I have tried to search the blue button and no luck.  So you would need to ask the day you are there.  

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23 minutes ago, shrekthetank1 said:

should have clarified this.  I got a copy emailed to me from LHI.  I have tried to search the blue button and no luck.  So you would need to ask the day you are there.  

@shrekthetank1

Ahh that is also new information. I was not aware that simply asking for a mailed copy from the contracted company on the day of the exam would get us the DBQ results directly from them. Did you also get a full report from the Doctor? or just the filled out DBQ?

Thank you for that info. I will try it on my next C&P exam. I expect to have one ordered in the near future.

As to the Blue Button, and this is just info if you did not already know it, C&P's NOT performed at the VA, in other words those done by outside contractors, will never appear in Blue Button unless VA changes its own rules again.

Blue Button, as it stands, is designed and focused on Medical Records created at the VA itself. You can upload other non-va records, but only VAMC has the ability to upload to Blue Button, VABenefits cannot.

A C&P done by an outside contractor is not a VAMC and by their current logic does not need to be in Blue Button.

We all probably disagree with that logic, but it is what it is.

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9 hours ago, GeekySquid said:

@shrekthetank1

Ahh that is also new information. I was not aware that simply asking for a mailed copy from the contracted company on the day of the exam would get us the DBQ results directly from them. Did you also get a full report from the Doctor? or just the filled out DBQ?

Thank you for that info. I will try it on my next C&P exam. I expect to have one ordered in the near future.

As to the Blue Button, and this is just info if you did not already know it, C&P's NOT performed at the VA, in other words those done by outside contractors, will never appear in Blue Button unless VA changes its own rules again.

Blue Button, as it stands, is designed and focused on Medical Records created at the VA itself. You can upload other non-va records, but only VAMC has the ability to upload to Blue Button, VABenefits cannot.

A C&P done by an outside contractor is not a VAMC and by their current logic does not need to be in Blue Button.

We all probably disagree with that logic, but it is what it is.

I called LHI and asked them if they could send me the results and they told me they do not send the results I have to request it from the VA.

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I will find out again on Monday. Maybe they should not have.  I will update after.  

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4 hours ago, jamesriley1990 said:

I called LHI

 

My experience with LHI is that they are d-bags on lots of levels.

that said, as I understand @shrekthetank1 the key is asking on the spot at the C&P exam.

I am going to try at my next exam.

I also think I am going to bring in a typed FOIA asking for the exam, letters to and from the VA, and all other docs related to my exam.

I know they can't "refuse" to accept the FOIA or comply with it at the corporate level, I just don't know what kind of trouble it will stir up hehehe.

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@GeekySquid So I had a similar experience at my VA doctors office asking for FMLA paperwork and they printed off a copy right on the spot and gave it back to me.  They did have me sign a FOIA (that they mailed to me and I sent back) and everything was good.  I was very surprised this happened as I had always heard no you can't do that, but maybe it is when you ask?  

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18 hours ago, GeekySquid said:

@shrekthetank1

Ahh that is also new information. I was not aware that simply asking for a mailed copy from the contracted company on the day of the exam would get us the DBQ results directly from them. Did you also get a full report from the Doctor? or just the filled out DBQ?

Thank you for that info. I will try it on my next C&P exam. I expect to have one ordered in the near future.

As to the Blue Button, and this is just info if you did not already know it, C&P's NOT performed at the VA, in other words those done by outside contractors, will never appear in Blue Button unless VA changes its own rules again.

Blue Button, as it stands, is designed and focused on Medical Records created at the VA itself. You can upload other non-va records, but only VAMC has the ability to upload to Blue Button, VABenefits cannot.

A C&P done by an outside contractor is not a VAMC and by their current logic does not need to be in Blue Button.

We all probably disagree with that logic, but it is what it is.

Wow, I'll have to keep this in mind. I tried to get c&p results back in 2017 from QTC after my c&p exam and I was told I had to request it from my RO that ordered the exam.

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On 5/10/2019 at 3:08 PM, jamesriley1990 said:

So I just had my C&P exam for PTSD, and I was wondering do I have to request the results from the contractor (LHI) or the VA? I am curious on the timeframe because I requested my C-File back in January and it wont be finished until June 2019. 

You request it from the VA Claims Intake Center in Janesville,WI.

My C-file took 5 months to receive. So, June sounds about right that you'll get it.

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After your C&P yes ask about the report from the contractor and  they should have instructions on how to get it  when they send you the location and time date of your C&P but it don't hurt to ask the examiner how to get it fast .

I think you need to wait at least 2 weeks after the exam  because the examiner usually takes a week to write it up  and then sends it to the VA. 

If you wait to get it when your C-FILE Comes in  it maybe to late...so you need to get this report ASAP.

 Also after about 2 weeks  you can stop by the VBA (Veterans Benefits Administration) and sign a FOIA and ask to see a VSO  and you go back to his/her office and ask them for a copy of your Last C&P Exam given on the date of the Exam.(they should be able to look into the computer using your SS #)

It don't hurt to request a copy from the contractor as well as the VBA  or the VA release of medical records  all after 2 weeks. When you have a Contracted out C&P Exam.

I had a QTC Forensic PTSD C&P a few years ago and I waited about 2 weeks and went to the VBA Office and ask to get a copy of my last C&P Exam  and I seen a VSO and he looked it up in the computer and run made a copy for me  free of charge.

Now I am not sure they still do it?  but the VBA is suppose to be there for Veterans.

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doc25 you got miss informed.  someone at QTC didn't know what they was talking about.

''Wow, I'll have to keep this in mind. I tried to get c&p results back in 2017 from QTC after my c&p exam and I was told I had to request it from my RO that ordered the exam//.

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I think I remember my instructions QTC sent me before the exam gave a FAX # to request the exam report after the C&P Was over about 2 weeks  then send in the request by Fax  and ask for a confirmation.

They may not do that now?  I''m not sure? 

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5 hours ago, shrekthetank1 said:

VA doctors office

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At the VA Doctors office, sure it is possible.

I am changing my PC because she is just awful. She is a Nurse Practitioner and has literally written in my notes that "she did not know I was asking for treatment" when I had specifically asked for treatment and it was documented right about her note. I am filing a complaint with the VA. She is a contractor working for a Contract VA provider away from the Hospital.

At Puget Sound when I have been there visiting specialists they made me go to the Information Office and that poor woman was physically surround by hills of paper for some reason but she did try to help.  She did not have access to Contractor Provided C&P exams though and said to file at the RO or get my C-File.

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3 hours ago, doc25 said:

I tried to get c&p results back in 2017 from QTC after my c&p exam and I was told I had to request it from my RO that ordered the exam.

@doc25

this has been my experience in 2018 and 2019 from QTC and LHI. I am going to try it per @shrekthetank1's post to see what happens. I will have the FOIA to present them at the time of the exam just to see how that flies. It would be interesting and helpful if that works with outside contractors. The extra trip to the RO is a pain.

 

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14 minutes ago, GeekySquid said:

@doc25

this has been my experience in 2018 and 2019 from QTC and LHI. I am going to try it per @shrekthetank1's post to see what happens. I will have the FOIA to present them at the time of the exam just to see how that flies. It would be interesting and helpful if that works with outside contractors. The extra trip to the RO is a pain.

 

I finally received my C-file back in February 2019 and the C&P results for 2017 are inconsistent. The examiner marked that my flat feet were "at least as likely as not" due to military service, but in the rationale the examiner agrees with the previous C&P from 2007.

Full 2nd C&P exam Nexus_Redacted.pdf

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15 minutes ago, doc25 said:

but in the rationale the examiner agrees with the previous C&P from 2007.

@doc25

It might be good for you to start a separate thread and include both letters and both dbq's and other supporting information. We dont' want to hijack this thread.

Include the code sheet and letters requesting the C&P sent by the VA. I think you have a case here, but the other docs are needed to be sure.

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Ok so just got back and got shot down this time. I brought a release of information paperwork but she stated it had to go through the va release of information.  But she did tell me she was putting me in to max this disability so that is good news. 

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