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I was granted SC of Other specified trauma and stressor related disorder, related to PTSD - Personal Trauma. I would like to know is there a difference. I haven't received the Statement of Case from the DRO yet. Any information would be greatly appreciated!!!

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Probably not.  70 percent for MDD pays the same amount as 70 percent for PTSD, or the same amount for 70 percent combined for other disorders such as knees, back, etc.  

If you were granted SC, then you should not receive a SOC.  A SOC is when one or more issues are DENIED.  I think you dont mean an SOC, I think you mean an implementation decision by the VARO 

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7 hours ago, justtryintomakeit said:

I was granted SC of Other specified trauma and stressor related disorder, related to PTSD - Personal Trauma. I would like to know is there a difference. I haven't received the Statement of Case from the DRO yet. Any information would be greatly appreciated!!!

I would think they do make a difference  if the used the word specified?and not unspecified,  unspecified could mean you have  to many other conditions from the trauma situation so with different unspecified conditions  its hard for them to pin-point these conditions and separate them to be give a rating   if the mention a specified disorder  then they can have ways using the DSM 5 Diagnostic tools to make a specified diagnose disorder. 

 in mental health such as PTSD  or TBI's  they are several  specified and unspecified disorders   and I think they use an MRI and your symptoms to decide how to rate or which way to go? 

 its complicated   even for the best Dr's to figure it out   so they go by the specified condition/'s that best fit your symptoms.

I do not understand it all but a Phyistrist has tried several times to explain it to me

I am going through this now for the last 6 years  in psychotherapy therapy   and they been using different therapy techniques on me   because I show unspecified symptoms   I am not Rated100% for PTSD  BUT 70% Chronic Combat trauma PTSD.  I do not want to be rated 100%PTSD.

I have other service connected conditions that warrant the 100% P&T and get 2 SMC'S   S &K   So I am ok with my rating.  need 2 more years for the 20 year protection rule.

But as for as the specified disorders and unspecified disorders  they are very complicated to figure them out.

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you may find this some what helpful and good to know.

From C&P Exams.Net

Read on down past the

How Much Time to Allocate for C&P Exams?

https://www.ptsdexams.net/how-much-time-should-va-allocate-for-cp-exams.html

Please keep in mind  with this coronavirus covid 19  has changed things  up...the C&P Exams are being conducted via virtual tele conferences and not in person exams   probably until this pandemic is over. ??

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Probably not.  70 percent for MDD pays the same amount as 70 percent for PTSD, or the same amount for 70 percent combined for other disorders such as knees, back, etc.  

If you were granted SC, then you should not receive a SOC.  A SOC is when one or more issues are DENIED.  I think you dont mean an SOC, I think you mean an implementation decision by the VARO 

Disability compensation appeal updated on April 29, 2020

 

Status: Please review your Statement of the Case

Issue on appeal: Service connection, Major depressive disorder

Submitted on: August 5, 2019

 

It says statement if case I'm thinking they denied ptsd and major depressive disorder but granted the Other specified trauma and stressor related disorder. Thanks for the info, I am aware the all pay the same just wasn’t sure if theRe is a difference.

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33 minutes ago, Buck52 said:

I would think they do make a difference  if the used the word specified?and not unspecified,  unspecified could mean you have  to many other conditions from the trauma situation so with different unspecified conditions  its hard for them to pin-point these conditions and separate them to be give a rating   if the mention a specified disorder  then they can have ways using the DSM 5 Diagnostic tools to make a specified diagnose disorder. 

 

Ok I was not sure if something like ptsd could be deemed permanent but Other specified trauma and stressor related disorder could be viewed as temporary, hence most likely to be reviewed for a decrease.

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