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freedog89

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Hello Everyone. I have a question about getting approved for a diabetes claim. I was diagnosed with prediabetes in 2007 with METFORMIN and taking blood glucose 3 times a day. I was never diagnosed with diabetes until 2013 after I retired in 2011. I put in a supplemental claim and was denied in Jul 2020. They did give me the qualifying event of prediabetes and that I do have a disability of diabetes. I have a HLR in now but I feel they will disapprove it. How do I go about getting this service connected when they tell me I had symptoms of it 4 years before I retired. I am not understanding the process. I have the continuity of symptomatology in my SMR which they pointed that out. Thank you for your time and please stay safe.

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2 hours ago, freedog89 said:

This is her rationale: While poor diet contributes to and/ or causes diabetes II. other causes include family history and lack of physical activity are a greater risk. Therefore the current condition is less likely than not caused by an in service event. illness. or injury. I started taking METFORMIN in 2007 until 2013. That is when I started taking insulin 4 times a day. I retired in 2011.

So, assuming no family history in your svc records or enlistment exam, she ignored that YOU didn't have those conditions, and YOU weren't on a forced diet of whatever they fed you in the mess hall, and, as a soldier, there wouldn't have been "lack of physical activity". Even 2 yrs out unless you stuffed a bucket of chicken every day and didn't get out of your chair you shouldn't have progressed that fast. 

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Just now, brokensoldier244th said:

SOooo...your supposition is that people with prior histories of conditions shouldn't be SC for them (despite that the regulations clearly say otherwise) Okay. That's great, moving on past your opinion of the VA system.

First of all, starting a comment with "no offense" usually means offense is coming and you are just trying to make your self feel better. Second, you are not an MD, nor are you obviously up on former and current ratings standards as to what can and cannot be service connected. (hint, in this guys case he already had pre-diabetic conditions that were not found at enlistment, so they presented IN SVC which is 33% of service connection.

There are several conditions that can be service connected by way of other things that aren't even SC. In his case, he has a pre-discharge finding of pre-diabetes, that, after discharge, presented as full on DMII. And only 2 yrs after, even. Its not like he's trying to claim it 20 yrs later.  The rater may have seen 'pre-diabetic' and while they were correct- "Pre-diabetes" doesn't exist- its not a rateable medical diagnosis, that progression from that to full DMII IS a rateable medical diagnosis. 

Op just need to get their own doctor to examine the pre-diabetes to diabetes timeline and chain of events, and opine as to whether OP vet was 'pre-diabetic' or actually diabetic at the time of his original diagnosis, and/or that the DMII now is obviously connected to the pre DM diagnosis and is service connectible as aggravation of a pre-existing condition. 

Yes MY OPINION. If its family history it should not be service connected. PERIOD. It is wrong. And I am allowed my opinion...and if stating no offense bothers you..well no offense...move past it. you stated your opinion without someone telling you moving past your opinion. get butt hurt much?????? Again, family history should not be able to be service connected. Its not right.  You would /may have gotten it even if never served.  Claims like this drain the system. And then people die never getting anything...but hey...tell that Vietnam vet reading this that its okay he aint getting shit for being exposed to agent orange but that person who has family history is getting 100%.

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1 minute ago, Christie said:

Yes MY OPINION. If its family history it should not be service connected. PERIOD. It is wrong. And I am allowed my opinion...and if stating no offense bothers you..well no offense...move past it. you stated your opinion without someone telling you moving past your opinion. get butt hurt much?????? Again, family history should not be able to be service connected. Its not right.  You would /may have gotten it even if never served.  Claims like this drain the system. And then people die never getting anything...but hey...tell that Vietnam vet reading this that its okay he aint getting shit for being exposed to agent orange but that person who has family history is getting 100%.

Im not telling you anything, so quit inferring. Regulations clearly state that aggravation of pre-existing is a rateable thing. Don't like it, call your Congressman. It doesn't make OP any less eligible for SC for it, even if it WAS in his records or family history. 

As for my 'opinions', they are based in fact and current regulation, and what I see every day working on veteran claims. 

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 Christie I am truly sorry about your father. Thank you very much for your opinion and I will think about what you said. If I had been diagnosed with diabetes before I retired or a year after I retired it would have been service connected. I do not have a family history of diabetes. If this is not service connected then I will move on and not tie up the system as you put it. You are correct in your statement about Vietnam VETS. But each VETS has different stories that I feel need to be respected and because one did not get the rating they should have. It does not mean a person who did should be disrespected. I hope you at least get all the claims you put in. Please be safe and take care. I truly thank you for your response. 

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Veterans coming out of the military should file any claims they have that was due to their military service & its best to file within one year getting out or the veterans ETS Date  but they also can file years later . depending if the condition is worse  or the veteran notice this condition to be worse  such as LOSS OF HEARING. BUT THERE IS OTHER CONDITIONS THAT MAY ARISE YEARS HIS MILITARY SERVICE.. THAT HE MAY NOT HAVE HAD AT THE TIME OF HIS/HER ETS.

As for a pre- existing conditions   being proved by the VA THEN NORMALLY THE VETERAN WILL NOT BE SERVICE CONNECTED FOR IT OR ANY PR-EXISTING CONDITIONS.

BUT THE VETERAN CAN RECEIVE MEDICAL SERVICES THROUGH THE VA AT A LOW COST OR NO COST BUT WITH SOME CO-PAYMENTS.

So if the Veteran can prove any of his/her medical conditions that they may claim can prove these conditions was caused by or related to his/her military service can and should get them service connected and if warranted a  correct Rating % given to this veteran.

YOU DO THIS WITH MEDICAL RECORDS AND IMO'S from qualified Dr/s & SPECIALIST.  AS EVIDENCE TO THE CONDITION FROM  MILITARY SERVICE. 

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