hypertension Asbestos

[Billyboy]

When I was in the service I was exposed to Asbestos, I have filled a claim for Hypertension. Does any one have a link I can check out to see the affects Asbestos has on hypertension?

[Berta]

If you have an asbestos related disease, and this disease causes HBP, and you are on the VA asbestos MOS Navy PIES list as having had probable or high exposure due to your MOS, then in this way HBP can be service connected.(Or if you were even in USAF, Army or USMC-as long as your MOS exposed you to asbestos and you have asbestos disease-the Navy is only vbranch with a PIES list as to occupations in service because those old ships were full of it)

The asbestos disability has to be first found as due to service.

with medical evidence showing the medical nexus.

[Billyboy]

I do not have an asbestos related disease! I was in the Coast Guard and the ship was full of asbestos, the bulk heads (walls) were covered with asbestos and our bunks were next to the wall, very close quarters, also all the steam line were covered and in the engine room was a ton of the stuff. I have a Statement of Fact from a friend who told me all this. The ship was launched Nov-30-1926. Do you know where to find more info then I have? This is all I have http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBCUT.../Alert1927.html What I was wondering is can asbestos cause hypertension or any cases I can check out. Just need help, bill

[Philip Rogers]

I do not have an asbestos related disease! I was in the Coast Guard and the ship was full of asbestos, the bulk heads (walls) were covered with asbestos and our bunks were next to the wall, very close quarters, also all the steam line were covered and in the engine room was a ton of the stuff. I have a Statement of Fact from a friend who told me all this. The ship was launched Nov-30-1926. Do you know where to find more info then I have? This is all I have http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBCUT.../Alert1927.html What I was wondering is can asbestos cause hypertension or any cases I can check out. Just need help, bill

From what I know exposure to asbestos doesn't cause HBP. I gather you are grasping at straws trying to service connect this. Good luck but I doubt you'll do it. jmo

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[free_spirit_etc]

Eek! It would depend on what TYPE of hypertension you have. Asbestos exposure can lead to pulmonary hypertention. Asbestos related diseases also take quite some time to show up.

If you type in asbestos hypertension into a web search -- it will give you the scoop.

So if you have pulmonary hypertension -and other symptoms of asbestos exposure - there might be a connection. I think it would be an uphill battle to connect regular hypertension to asbestos exposure without other signs.

From Mayo Clinic: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/asbestosi...0482/DSECTION=7

Complications

The severity of asbestosis is generally related to the amount and duration of exposure to asbestos. Effects of the disease may be so mild as to cause almost no symptoms. Or the condition may create such a reduced flow of oxygen as to be disabling or even fatal. Asbestosis may lead to the following conditions:

High blood pressure in your lungs. Asbestosis-related scar tissue may eventually compress or obliterate your lungs' small blood vessels, causing high blood pressure in your lungs' arteries (pulmonary hypertension).

Heart problems. Pulmonary hypertension can lead to enlargement and failure of your heart's right ventricle (cor pulmonale). Your heart consists of four chambers — two upper chambers called atria and two lower chambers called ventricles. Your right ventricle assists in pumping oxygen-poor blood from your organs and tissues to your lungs, where your blood receives a new boost of oxygen. As your pulmonary arteries narrow, your heart's right ventricle must work harder to pump blood through your lungs. Initially, your heart tries to compensate by thickening its walls and dilating the right ventricle to increase the amount of blood it can hold. But this measure only works temporarily, and eventually — after a period of a few years — the right ventricle weakens and fails from the extra strain.

I do not have an asbestos related disease! I was in the Coast Guard and the ship was full of asbestos, the bulk heads (walls) were covered with asbestos and our bunks were next to the wall, very close quarters, also all the steam line were covered and in the engine room was a ton of the stuff. I have a Statement of Fact from a friend who told me all this. The ship was launched Nov-30-1926. Do you know where to find more info then I have? This is all I have http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBCUT.../Alert1927.html What I was wondering is can asbestos cause hypertension or any cases I can check out. Just need help, bill

[Billyboy]

Phillip, being a layman and trying to navigate the VA system, some times you just need to reach for that straw. I have had high B/P since service, the two dr. I saw when I got out of the service are dead and all their records destroyed. So I reach for straws!

[Philip Rogers]

Billyboy, no problem. It's just that "to me" it's highly unlikely. Since you've had it since service, are there any records? What do your SMR's show? Discharge physical? Are you sure Dr's are dead? Could they have transferred their records to another practice? How about local hospital outpatient and lab records? Statements from loved ones and family? Just some thoughts.

[Billyboy]

Just before my discharge, while in the pysc ward the gave me libirum, that will lower b/p. My readings when I got out were just below high b/p. My drs have been dead for 20-30 some years now, I called the hospital medical center and they informed me records were not kept after 10 years when the drs die. But I thank you for the thoughts, I have looked and looked but now, as you say, I think I’m up “ye old creek” but I keep plugging alone. bill

[Pete53]

Billy:

To have any chance at all in my opinion you will need an outside medical opinion that the Doc linkshigh blood pressure to thye time you were in service or that your exposure to asbestos caused it.

The fact that you were given librum and it is in your records is going to help your claim. In my experience the VA Docs will not be much help to you.

Good Luck

[jbasser]

Billyboy, Being SC for hypertension ( Direct) I was exposed to asbestos in removing it from ships and Subs during my Naval Career. I am not SC for asbestos but it should not be long.

Hypertension is probally not secondary unless you can get a Doc to say so. This would be like having the following events take place.

1: Exposure to asbestos proven and the amount of asbestos length of Time of exposure.

2: Pulmonary disease (active)

3: Effects pulmonary diesase has on cardiolvascular system, Such as Cor pulmonale, and was it caused by the pulmonary disease actually caused by asbestos.

Ships built in the 20s up to the end of WWII used mostly African Amosite Asbestos as the core for steam piping. This asbestos is a flaky gray fibers that could become airborne if the insulation was tore.

The Lagging as it is called on the pipes was covered by a sheet of asbestos called Chrysotile. It was not as easy to get airborne exposure but it was the most beadly type since the fibers were larger.

Any Vet who has had prolonged exposure to asbestos of airborne origin is in trouble. It can take up to 40 years for this dragon to start to shoot flames.

There is a great deal of information about asbesto son ships on the web. You just have to get past the Attorney web sites.

John

Edited March 24, 2007 by jbasser (see edit history)

[allan]

mesothelioma navy, navy asbestos

Source: http://www.mesothelioma-navy.com/navyships.asp

NAVY SHIPS

The following are some of the navy ships on which our clients were exposed to asbestos dust. Some clients were exposed to asbestos while aboard ship and others during overhauls in various shipyards. During the initial construction and maintenance of these vessels, military and civilian personnel were exposed to numerous asbestos-containing insulation products. Even a brief exposure to asbestos in these settings can cause mesothelioma.

USS Abbott

USS Admiralty Islands

USS Ajax

USS America

USS Apricornus

USS Anzio

USS Aranac

USS Bache

USS Beale

USS Blue

USS Calvert

USS Capps

USS Cavalier

USS Constellation

USS Constitution

USS Coral Sea

USS Cushing

USS Darby

USS Des Moines

USS Dixie

USS Douglas H. Fox

USS Dwight D. Eisenhower

USS Dyess

USS Erben

USS Essex

USS Eversole

USS Fanshaw Bay

USS Farragut

USS Forrestal

USS Guardfish

USS Hancock

USS Herbert Thomas

USS Higbee

USS Homestead

USS Hornet

USS Huse

USS Idaho

USS Independence

USS Iowa

USS James C. Owen

USS John F. Kennedy

USS Juneau

USS Kalinin Bay

USS Kitty Hawk

USS Kwajalein

USS Latimer

USS Lee Fox

USS Lexington

USS Liscome Bay

USS Little Rock

USS Maine

USS Missouri

USS New Jersey

USS Noble

USS Olmstead

USS Oriscany

USS Piedmont

USS Puget Sound

USS Prairie

USS Princeton

USS Ranger

USS Rathburne

USS Roark

USS Saint Paul

USS Salem

USS Salt Lake City

USS Sarasota

USS Saratoga

USS Severn

USS Shangrila

USS Shelton

USS St. Croix

USS T.E. Chandler

USS Tarawa

USS Terror

USS The Sullivans

USS Thuban

USS Ticonderoga

USS Turner Joy

USS Twinning

USS Waller

USS Washington

USS Wasp

USS Wisconsin

[allan]

SHIPYARDS

Source: http://www.mesothelioma-navy.com/shipyards.asp

Alabama Alaska California Connecticut District of Columbia Florida Hawaii Louisiana Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Mississippi New Hampshire New Jersey New York Ohio Oregon Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Carolina Texas Virginia Washington

The following are some of the naval shipyards at which our clients were exposed to asbestos dust. Some clients were exposed to asbestos while aboard ship and others during overhauls in various shipyards. During the initial construction and maintenance of these vessels, military and civilian personnel were exposed to numerous asbestos-containing insulation products. Even a brief exposure to asbestos in these settings can cause mesothelioma.

Alabama

Alabama Drydock & Shipping Co. (ADDSCO)

Bender Shipbuilding

Ingalls Shipyard

Alaska

Seward Ships Drydock (Seward)

California

Bethlehem Shipyard (San Francisco)

Bethlehem Steel Shipyard (Terminal Island)

Consolidated Shipyards

Consolidated Steel Shipyard

Hunters Point Naval Shipyard

Kaiser Shipyard (Richmond)

Long Beach Naval Shipyard

Mare Island Naval Shipyard

Moore Drydock

NASSCO Shipyard

National Shipyards

Naval Repair Center (San Diego)

Naval Weapons Station

Pacific Ship Repair

Richmond Shipyard (Kaiser)

Rough & Ready Island Ship Repair

San Diego Naval Shipyard

San Francisco Drydock

Southwest Marine Shipyard (Long Beach, San Diego)

Terminal Island Naval Yard

TODD - Alameda Naval Shipyard

TODD Shipyards (Los Angeles, Oakland, San Francisco, San Pedro)

Triple A Machine Shop

U.S. Naval Shipyard

U.S. Naval Operating Base (Terminal Island)

Vallejo Shipyard

Western Shipyard

Connecticut

Electric Boat (Groton)

Naval Submarine Base

District of Columbia

Washington Navy Yard

Florida

Atlantic Dry Dock

Gulf Marine Repair

Hendry Corporation

Mayport Naval Station

Offshore Shipbuilding, Inc.

Pensacola Naval Air Station

Tampa Bay Shipbuilding

Hawaii

Pearl Harbor Shipyard

Louisiana

Avondale Shipyard (Avondale Industries)

Bollinger Shipyards

Conrad Industries

Maine

Bath Iron Works

Portsmouth Naval Shipyard

Maryland

Baltimore Marine Industries

Bethlehem Shipbuilding

Curtis Bay Coast Guard Yard

Ellicott International

Key Highway Shipyard

Massachusetts

Boston Navy Yard

Charlestown Navy Yard

Fore River Shipyard

General Ship Corporation

Michigan

Defoe Shipbuilding Co.

Mississippi

Ingalls Shipbuilding

Naval Station Pascaqoula

Trinity Marine Group

New Hampshire

Portsmouth Naval Shipyard

New Jersey

New York Shipbuilding

TODD Shipyard

New York

Brooklyn Navy Shipyard

Caddell Drydock and Repair

GMD Shipyard

New York Shipbuilding Corp.

TODD Shipyard (Brooklyn)

Ohio

American Shipbuilding

Oregon

Albina Engine & Machine

Astoria Voyage Repair Station

Cascade General

Commercial Iron & Steel Shipyard

Dyer Shipyard

Floating Marine Ways

Gunderson/FMC Shipyard

Kaiser Shipyard (Portland)

Northwest Marine Ironworks

Oregon Shipyard (Kaiser)

Portland Ship Repair

Swan Island Shipyard

Tongue Point Naval Shipyard

Willamette Iron & Steel

Zidell’s Shipyard

Pennsylvania

Penn Shipbuilding

Philadelphia Naval Shipyard

Sun Shipbuilding

Rhode Island

Newport Naval Yard

South Carolina

Braswell Services Group

Carolina Shipping Company

Charleston Naval Shipyard

Detyen’s Shipyard

Texas

American Bridge Shipyard (Orange)

AMFELS (Brownsville)

Barbas Cut Docks

Bloodworth Bond Shipyard

Boats of Freeport

Brown Shipyard

Brown & Root Shipyard

Galveston Docks

Houston Shipyards

Ingalls Shipbuilding

Kane Shipbuilding

MGM Marine

Naval Station Ingleside

Orange Shipbuilding Co.

Pennsylvania Shipyard (Beaumont)

Port Adams Shipyard

Ta Chiao USA Inc.

TDI-Halter

TODD Shipyard (Houston)

Trinity (Beaumont)

USX Shipyard

Virginia

Collona’s Shipyard (Norfolk)

Lyon Shipyard (Norfolk)

Naval Amphibious Base Little Creek

Newport News Shipyard

Norfolk Naval Shipyard

NORSHIPCO

Phillyship

Washington

Bremerton Naval Shipyard

Duwamish Shipyard (Seattle)

Foss, Launch & Tug

Kaiser Shipyard (Vancouver)

Lake Union Drydock

Lake Washington

Lockheed Shipyard (Seattle)

Masco Shipyard

Naval Station Everett

Puget Sound Bridge Yards

Puget Sound Naval Shipyard

Strategic Weapons Facility

Tacoma Boat & Drydock

TODD Shipyard (Seattle, Tacoma)

Vancouver Shipyard (Kaiser)

Voyage Repair Station Port Angeles

[Objee]

Just before my discharge, while in the pysc ward the gave me libirum, that will lower b/p. My readings when I got out were just below high b/p. My drs have been dead for 20-30 some years now, I called the hospital medical center and they informed me records were not kept after 10 years when the drs die. But I thank you for the thoughts, I have looked and looked but now, as you say, I think I’m up “ye old creek” but I keep plugging alone. bill

Bill,

The only HBP I could find related to asbestos is pulmonary (highblood pressure within the heart itself). Here's the list of asbestos-related disease a leading asbestos specializing law firm offers:

"The diseases for which asbestos exposure is a generally accepted cause are mesothelioma, asbestosis, small airway fibrosis, scarring, pleural plaques, pleural fibrosis, pleural effusion, and many lung cancers. Diseases for which asbestos exposure is not at this time generally accepted as the cause, include cancers of the kidney, GI tract and ovary.

Each of these asbestos-related diseases can only be diagnosed through medical examinations and tests."

However, excessive noise can cause HBP. If you were a snipe doing the tappet dance for hours on end on ALERT and others, this could create an SC cause for you.

I was on EWING and all the buck and a quarters were fairly noisy. I also drove ALERT from SF to Petaluma (after she and I were both decomissioned) and if I recall correctly, she was not very quiet.

Ralph

[Billyboy]

Thanks for all the help. Objee, I may be calling on you for a “Statement of Fact” if that OK? As far as the noise and do you remember anything about the asbestos on the alert? I am really not sure of what I’ll do but I need to keep all my options open. 3 years and still fighting! Thanks, bill

[Billyboy]

Sorry ment to post this, I was in the Coast Guard, Can't find a thing on these Navy places. I'll keep trying. bill

[Objee]

Thanks for all the help. Objee, I may be calling on you for a “Statement of Fact” if that OK? As far as the noise and do you remember anything about the asbestos on the alert? I am really not sure of what I’ll do but I need to keep all my options open. 3 years and still fighting! Thanks, bill

Sure, contact me at zedaassn@sbcglobal.net. Yeah, the ex-ALERT still had the pipe wrap and bulkhead insulation intact when I was on her. IF you were in any of the engineering rates I think the noise is a better bet than asbestos for HBP.

The VA couldn't figure out what paratus means, but they sure understand semper!

Ralph

[Billyboy]

Ralph, my memory is shot, gone, disappeared and no more. Do you remember where the sleeping quarters were to the engine room? I just went through a lot of test at the Palo Alto hospital and they asked if loud noises bothered bright lights, or me the noise gets me! bill

[Objee]

Ralph, my memory is shot, gone, disappeared and no more. Do you remember where the sleeping quarters were to the engine room? I just went through a lot of test at the Palo Alto hospital and they asked if loud noises bothered bright lights, or me the noise gets me! bill

Bill,

I just searched for the design drawings for the 125 footer ACTIVE class cutters with no joy. Try Fred's Place to see if you recognize any ALERT crew from the time you were aboard. If so, query them to see if that's where you berthed. I was XO on the EWING and have no memeory either (damn Prozac!) so we're screwed unless we can find some mentally competent ex-crew! Couldn't find designated berthing areas. But, WTH, we're Coasties and we don't give up until it's done! "You have to go out, etc. . . . "

Coordinate with me and we'll eventually get the answers needed!

Ralph

[jbasser]

"The only HBP I could find related to asbestos is pulmonary (highblood pressure within the heart itself). Here's the list of asbestos-related disease a leading asbestos specializing law firm offers:

"The diseases for which asbestos exposure is a generally accepted cause are mesothelioma, asbestosis, small airway fibrosis, scarring, pleural plaques, pleural fibrosis, pleural effusion, and many lung cancers. Diseases for which asbestos exposure is not at this time generally accepted as the cause, include cancers of the kidney, GI tract and ovary.

Each of these asbestos-related diseases can only be diagnosed through medical examinations and tests."

However, excessive noise can cause HBP. If you were a snipe doing the tappet dance for hours on end on ALERT and others, this could create an SC cause for you.

I was on EWING and all the buck and a quarters were fairly noisy. I also drove ALERT from SF to Petaluma (after she and I were both decomissioned) and if I recall correctly, she was not very quiet."

Asbestos related lung conditions can cause Pulmonary Hypertension. That is the pressure of the pulmonary arteries. There are other causes of PPH. Fen Fen was one. Pulmonary Hypertension is a Very serious condition and if not treated the person effected will die. No may die, but will die. This ugly devil is deadly and even with treatment the outlook is Grim.

Both the VA and SSD rate this as disabling. If anyone is diagnosed with it, Get treatment fast. The symptoms are fast heart beat, Irregular heart beat, pounding in the chest with minimal exertion, shortness of breath.