thanks for your swift response...in answer to the question,paraphrases why they turn me down...they said "you are service connected for hypertension with congestive heart failure and renal insussiciency,lumbar degenerative changes, and residual right sided weakness due to cerebral vascular accident with a combined evaluattion of 50%. Although you are treated for these conditions, the evidence dooes not show that you are precluded from all forms of gainful employment due to your service-connected disabilities. Therfore entitlement to individual inemployability is denied" more to follow..... and I was turn down for SSA,voc rehab has determined my not feasible to retrain in writing ....as for the forms you mentioned I did not pat attention to the form number ,but I did file a NOD,and promptly fill out and return all corrospodance sent to me, I am useing FDVA as my rep..and as you may notice ...the PVD was grant late... will BVA request recent medical records?