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Answers Being Found On Cfids And Fibromyalgia- What Benefits For Ill Gulf War Veterans?

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Answers Being Found on CFIDS and Fibromyalgia- What Benefits for Ill Gulf War Veterans?

September 15, 2010 posted by Denise Nichols

I did attend the Salt Lake City conference on Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Fibromyalgia this past Saturday my recommendation has already been made to the VA RAC GWI chairman and scientific director it is to invite DR Klimas and Dr Bateman to both share clinical insights on CFS and GWI clinical objective markers to the next RAC meeting after the Nov RAC meeting. An invite needs to be also made to Dr Patrick Wood to cover fibromyalgia and Dr Suzanne Vernon formerly with the CDC and a virologist.

My recommendation to the VA is that we need a Advisory Committee to deal with Clinical Care improvements for Gulf War Veterans that is backed up with valid research that is already published. We desperately need for clinical care at VA to be using this research and expertise on the outside re CFS Doctors and Researchers! Also anti Aging group of physicians have alot to offer also.

WE need better clinical care for our gulf war veterans now! WE can not wait longer, we have already waited 20 years for the VA to respond. We need those centers of excellence that are bench to bedside integrating research into fast track changes for the GWVets when they see doctors at VA!

Dr Klimas—Miami What a star.

Dr Bateman…..Another Star Physician in Utah but sees CFS civilians although there were at least 7-8 family members of gulf war veterans that came to afternoon session of their meeting which was patient conference portion, Dr Wood in Washington state again seeing mainly civilians.

I did ask that Dr Bateman included gulf war veterans in her work and research coming from CFS group as I know Dr Klimas is doing. She referenced Dr Nancy Klimas, I replied yes and I also mentioned Dr Baraniuk at Georgetown University but that we needed more than two physician/researcher on the East Coast! What about gulf war veterans all across the United States!

The health care providers conference was the morning session about 100 attendees but no VA Doctors that I am aware of atttended! The afternoon session was the patient conference and it blew me away when over 300 filled the opened up ballroom size room. They had rest areas for the ill civilian CFSIDS sufferers with mattresses in an adjourning room and an active display area for poster presentations on an array of topics and treatment options!

There was also a Dr(clinical) and researcher from Washington State on fibromyalgia. Dr Patrick Wood that would also be good to invite to same RAC meeting. He is with Pacific Rheumatology Associates.

Tremendous speaker and knows these other researchers personally it seems.

WE need to combine with CFS and FM and GWI as subset to find out how gulf war veterans deployed and nondeployed are alike/different.

These people need to help VA rewrite clinical guidelines for GWI/CFS/FM

They need to be involved in retraining VA Clinicans!!!!!

These people said over and over they learned from the patients!!! They listen to the patients and then go to the lab with clues given from patients and find the hard answers IN THEIR RESEARCH EFFORTS!!!!!

From Dr Woods lecture at Salt Lake City Medical Care Providers Conference September11. I learned so much from this one clinical physician that is also deeply involved in research on neuroimaging for fibromyalgia. I am using the information shared at that wonderful conference in Salt Lake City.

Objective Abnormalities:

Abnormal sleep-Related brain activity- Reduction in Stage III/IV sleep and a increased incidence of alpha- delta sleep.

Abnormal CSF Fluid

decreased concentration of dopamine, norepinephrine,serotonin and increased concentration of substance P, glutamate, nerve growth factor, and endorphins

Moldofsky, psychosomatic Med 1975;37;341

Russel AM J Med Science 1998; 315;277

Decreased CSF Bioamine Metabolities Russell Arth Pheum 1992;35;550

Neuroendocrine Dysfunction

Mildly Decreased Cortisol and decreased growth hormone levels

Autonomic Dysfunction baseline sympathetic hyperactivity, decresed parasympathetic tone, poor response to physical/mental stressors

Crofford Arthritis Rheum 1994 37, 1583,

Jones Semin Arthritis Rheum 2007;36;357

Martinez-Lavin Arth Res Ther 2007;9;216

His conclusion speaks to involvement of a single neurotransmitter in FM-Dopamine.

Wood Eur J Neurosc 2007; 25:2576

Neuroimaging Findings

Neuronal Hyperactivation in response to stimulation

Abnormal brain metabolites

Cortical atrophy

Disrupted dopamine neurotransmission

Reduced mu-opioid receptor availability

Gracely Arthritis Rheum 2002,46,1333

Wood, JPain in press

Kuchinad J Neuroscience

Wood J Pain 2007;8;51

Wood Eur J Neuroscience 2007;25;3576

Harris J NNeuroscience 2007; 27, 1000

Cortical Brain Atrophy Kuchinad- Accelerated brain gray matter in Fm, premature aging J Neuroscience 2007, 27, 4004

Reduced Dopamine Synthesis; Brainstem. Thalamus and Limbic cortex Wood Reduced presynaptic dopamine activity in FM demonstrated PET J Pain 2007

Abnormal Dopamine Response to Painful Stimulation Caudate Nucleus, Putamen, Globus Pallidus

Wood Eur J Neuroscience 2007, 25, 3576

He also discussed the presence or absence of cervical cord compression(Holman AJ, J Pain 2008;9(7);613

Watson Arthritis Rheum 2009; 60(();2839. Karlsson AK, Prog Brain Res 2006; 152;152;1-8 Staud,R Curr Rheumatol Rep 2004; 6; 258 Heffez Eur Spine J 2004:13(6); 516.appearing to have substantial bearing on relationship of symptoms to biological variables and raises question of two or more fibromyalgias.

He also discussed Adult ADHD as higher prevalence among patients with FM(30%)(Woods, American College of Rheumatology,2010) and explaining brain fog—more work needed to confirm.

And also a growing body of evidence suggest abnormal iron metabolism as a role in expression of FM symptoms(Woods and that it will be published next yr early in yr)

He reviewed Pharmacotheraphy—-Pregabalin(Arnold J Pain 2008 Sept pg 792-805) 30% reduction of pain, Duloxetine(Russel Pain 2008: 136 p 432)

, Milnacipran(Mease J Rheumatology 2009. 36 page 398)

He had many Clinical Pearls re Choice of Agent on antiepleptics and antidepressants

Then reviewed other agents with controlled studies

Anticonvulsants(Gabapentin) ***Arnold, Arthritis Rheum. 2007;56: 1336

Dual Reuptake inhibitors-Venlafaxine

Central Acting Muscles Relaxants – Cyclobenazaprine

Dopamine Agonists- Pramipexole–Holman and Myers, Arthritis Rheum 2005;52: 2495

Atypical Opiods- Tramadol

Sedative hypnotics*** -Sodium oxybate—Holman and Myers same as above and Russell. Arthritis Rheum 2009

Cholinesterase Inhibitors – Pyridostigmine- Jones. Arthritis and Rheum 2008

He mentioned needed for referrals for

Sleep testing PSMG/MMSLT

Medical imaging Cervical MRI


also for Rheumatology (inflammatory markers), Psychiatry(bipolar affective disorders, refractory mood/anxiety disorder)

Gastroenterology(refractory IBS, Red flags of hematochezia, weight loss, inflammation)

Urology(interstitial cystitis)

Dentistry(Tempromandibular disorders)

These are just some of the highlightes from his presentation!!!!

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